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Hundreds of Twitter Employees Leaving After Elon Musk's 'Extremely Hardcore' Work Demands
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Some of us are questioning how it is possible to do so within just a few days being new to the company and with 7500 employees and 5000 contractors.
Wouldn't have been better to use 2-3 months?
Those criticism have a value of what? Nothing? Most of it is internet hyperbole. People believe much of the over the top criticism has any value. It doesn’t. (Similar to some of the criticisms about Tim Cook, which range from very personal to the way he runs the company)
Yup! Corporate does have to adjust.
Funny enough, when my institution pivoted to work from home for many, and there were later rumors that some offices might become permanently WFH without choice, I wrote an op-Ed strongly going against the idea of permanently forced WFH without a corporate office base.
Even though I personally much prefer to work from the office and I still do, I tried to make sure in my piece to say that corporations should not remove offices from existing employees because a) not everyone’s home can accommodate WFH, b) corporate, like mine, was not paying extra for the use of my home internet, home heat, etc. and it still isn’t. I kept my office and have been able to, luckily. I work at the office almost all the time but love the flexibility of being able to work from home whenever I want and the latter has happened a number of times in the last 2 years. And I can WFH at will, without requesting permission.
Ultimately, I like the flexibility but also like to separate home life from working time as much as possible. Most of my other colleagues prefer permanent WFH and that’s just fine too. Here’s to flexibility!!
It’s not jealously. I’m happy have the flexibility to go to the office and see my colleagues. Acknowledging posters on MR, some of who do IT work, work in varied businesses, varied environments, companies from small to very, very large, insist that if the group you are in has better productivity at home than in the office; you’re working from home wrong. These blanket statements to me represent a level of immaturity.
Right.
Twitter doesn’t have that parent company and doesn’t use cloud infra. They run on bare metal.
For the Muskrats in the world who keep repeating nonsense that it is ok to fire all the infrastructure engineers, it is time for them to do some reading instead of believing in their billionaire edgelord‘s BS.
Read the whole thread. There are many like this:
Eh no that was only in that movie. The real life Macintosh development was a slow burn process that took about 5 years. Raskin et al were pitching and developing the product for years.
No, I'm not even thinking about any movies. I'm thinking about actual documentaries I've watched where they talk about it. Real life was probably worse than the movies.
For example:
(video should start at 8:42 time stamp)
Andy Cunningham (Job's former publicist) states, "So you were living with these people [the Macintosh development team], going through the process of working with Steve Jobs, which was grueling and difficult. He knew what he wanted in his head, and he would communicate that to you, and if you didn't make it happen, he'd basically scream and yell and sometimes throw things and insult you if you couldn't do it."
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Nah it was pretty tame by comparison. The only person you need to listen to about it is Raskin. He has told the story and given plenty of interviews. No movie or documentary counts on this.
See my edit where I added more info. She's far from the only one to state this. I see absolutely no reason why they'd all be in cahoots with each other to make it up.
i would have to agree with you there. I would not work for a company that lies to its employees.
The downward spiral continues.... even the ones that he convinces to stay end up fired.
www.theverge.com
Musk has already axed the Twitter ad exec he reportedly convinced to stay
Chaos reigns.
www.theverge.com
Reality:
Twitter Blue (whatever it is this hour) is a failure.
Top Advertising avoiding it like a plague.
Regular tweets by the twit that shows just what a twit he is.
Peanut Gallery:
He's SEPARTING THE WHEEET FROM THE CHAFFFFF!
Real-world chances of Twitter making money again:
Twitter Blue (whatever it is this hour) is a failure.
Top Advertising avoiding it like a plague.
Regular tweets by the twit that shows just what a twit he is.
Peanut Gallery:
He's SEPARTING THE WHEEET FROM THE CHAFFFFF!
Real-world chances of Twitter making money again:
I think Apple II development continued while Macintosh development was going on, so, not really
that is how most new takeovers work. But I think Musk wanted to speed up the process and have a little fun with it and sit back and watch the chaos to be honest with you.....
By everyones account Twitter employees were vastly overpaid and very inefficient. Then the company was over staffed.
I think Apple II development continued while Macintosh development was going on, so, not really
Exactly.
Comparing a real NEW hardware product unseen to the world at the time to a web page that spits out 140 characters at a time. No comparison.
Oh.
And that "spits out 140 characters" machine was working just find till Enron took a torch to it with his mouthing off with hubris.
*yes I know it can do more than 140 characters that is unless Enron fired the guy that wrote the code to do that. LOL
Is this 4D chess?
I am not a billionaire so I can't think as SMARRT as him:
How will Twitter make money again?
Anyone?
312 days till Enron's first 1 Billion dollar debt payment is due BTW.
He's does not have worry though, Twitter will file bankruptcy by then.
I am not a billionaire so I can't think as SMARRT as him:
How will Twitter make money again?
Anyone?
312 days till Enron's first 1 Billion dollar debt payment is due BTW.
He's does not have worry though, Twitter will file bankruptcy by then.
LOL Twitter is DOOMED!
I hope all of the doom and gloom people come back in the near future when Twitter has turned around....
I think Apple II development continued while Macintosh development was going on, so, not really
Not sure what that has to do with anything. I'm simply pointing out that Steve Jobs (who's probably worshipped by some of the same people who are criticizing Elon here) was also a grueling boss to work for--probably even more so.
Kinda feel like Musk is doing this deliberately.
Any company of significant size has inertia in terms of workflow, corporate culture and direction.
He likely plans on outsourcing a lot of the coding and such to places in Pakistan and India. Retaining the sales and operations departments only.
Of course operations could be outsourced as well, but I think he would want people on the same sleep schedule as he is when he wants to complain about (virtual) server uptime.
OTOH, maybe he is just a bull in a china shop. His wealth a result of another rich kid failing upward.
He didn't invent Paypal, he was a partner in a business that acquired it, then profited on the sale.
Nor did he start Tesla, he came along later and bought into it.
Don't get me started on hyperloop.
Any company of significant size has inertia in terms of workflow, corporate culture and direction.
He likely plans on outsourcing a lot of the coding and such to places in Pakistan and India. Retaining the sales and operations departments only.
Of course operations could be outsourced as well, but I think he would want people on the same sleep schedule as he is when he wants to complain about (virtual) server uptime.
OTOH, maybe he is just a bull in a china shop. His wealth a result of another rich kid failing upward.
He didn't invent Paypal, he was a partner in a business that acquired it, then profited on the sale.
Nor did he start Tesla, he came along later and bought into it.
Don't get me started on hyperloop.
Agreed.
I mean his incompetence is SO bad if one would a conspiracy theorist, one could by that he is tanking it on purpose for the Saudi's, Russia, and China and an effective tool to cut down on dissonance and uprest.
But then again,
OCam's razor and all that.
I mean his incompetence is SO bad if one would a conspiracy theorist, one could by that he is tanking it on purpose for the Saudi's, Russia, and China and an effective tool to cut down on dissonance and uprest.
But then again,
OCam's razor and all that.
The Apple II paid all the bills at Apple and got neglected. Then there was the Apple III which ... was a POS because Steve Jobs decreed it must have no fans and it tended to stop working quite often. A "fix" to reseat all the chips pulling out of their sockets due to the heat was literally to lift the computer up off the desk by a few inches and drop it to reseat the chips (not a joke).I think Apple II development continued while Macintosh development was going on, so, not really
Then there was the Lisa, it did not go well.
Then there was the Mac.
During all this time, the Apple II is still paying the bills and generating profit at Apple, because VisiCalc was the first spreadsheet, and it created a compelling business-use case for Apple.
The Mac finally took off because of what you see is what you get display and "desktop publishing."
If you want to laugh really hard or be amazed, take a look at Windows before Windows '95 (which was terrible, but they finally managed to somewhat clone a Mac-like GUI), and compare it to a Mac, and then compare both of them to a NeXT which looks like a computer and OS broadcasting from 10 years in the future (or 20 for Windows 3.1).
Anyway, over here in 2022, MacOS still has all the NX_ NeXT keybindings, which I find hilarious.
Steve Jobs was phenomenal at being a great artist. Because great artists steal, to cop a line from somebody or another ;-) and he was brilliant at seeing half-assed implementations of various technologies and then significantly improving and marketing them. The problem being, back then the actual tech wasn't yet good enough to satisfy his demands/needs so you wound up with terrible products that didn't work due to arbitrary Steve Jobs imposed constraints (Apple III), or was too expensive for normal people to buy (Lisa, NeXT).
What any of this has to do with twitter, IDK. Twitter was always a piece of c--p post dumb 140 character tweets system which never made any money in its entire history and has been an albatross in anybody's portfolio dumb enough to buy it. Elon Musk is a businessman, not humanity's savior. Twitter has always been people buying or bullying their way into controlling a global narrative. The single thing twitter has going for it was being in the right place at the right time and getting hordes of people to pile into it.
Having said all that, Elon's job isn't to make the world a better place, our government, which is supposed to represent us, should be doing that on our behalf in our country, I won't bother to veer off into that tangent, but Elon should just purchase the US government, and do same as he's doing to twitter, but I guess the Rothschild's don't want to sell, because their Ponzi scheme is doing significantly better than FTX, and it's unlikely he's the richest person on Earth; just the richest whose wealth 3rd party metrics can measure and quantify.
In conclusion re: twitter - who cares. Just my humble opinion, along with laughing at the chaos. A bit off topic, but this entire thread is off-topic and has really 0 to do with Apple anything.
This is exactly the kind of conspiracy theories and anti-Semitic dog whistles we expect from people who worship Musk.
Thanks for the demonstration.
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