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I am getting tired of iOS
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You are making a big mistake in ASSUMING that the 'average consumer' doesn't, or wouldn't easily know what a file system is.
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I thought this was an Apple discussion forum. Not a only positive Apple discussion forum. if you want to hear only positive thought YOU go to a more suitable Apple forum for you and don't come back.
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Well what are we supposed to do when the OP comes here and complains? Are we supposed to code a new OS for him which fits his needs? I'm not sure what he wants us to do about it. If he's not happy, maybe he should consider switching. We can't do much for him here.
I switched to Android a long time ago due to those exact issues, Loving Android!!! Its funny, my whole group of friends ALL had iPhone 4's but in 2013 we all have Android phones.
File system access? Inter-app communication? Really? I'd settle for better services for Siri and Maps where I am.
In any case, the lack of file system access and limited inter-app communication is Apple's way of reducing the risk of malware. In that regard, so far so good. Besides most people stick to one program for working with a given type of file, particularly since complex editing on a mobile device is difficult.
In any case, the lack of file system access and limited inter-app communication is Apple's way of reducing the risk of malware. In that regard, so far so good. Besides most people stick to one program for working with a given type of file, particularly since complex editing on a mobile device is difficult.
You have a point. You should be able to easily choose your own keyboard. I'm not a big fan of Swype, though.
I'm sure this is a security issue. PDFs are potentially dangerous.
Well, of course it has a file system. Basically flat, and, no way to browse. I mostly agree with you in that you want the GUI to include direct access to the filesystem. I agree with you.
Actually, I'm not quite sure what you are saying.
I have the luxury of having access to both an Android phone and an iPhone. Despite some of the limitations that you mention, I end up using the iPhone much more. The apps tend to be higher quality and more reliable, and, there are better privacy options in iOS. Android is really for people who don't mind if Google knows absolutely everything about them at any given moment of the day or night. For my next phone, I am seriously wondering about the new Nokia Lumia (Windows) phones. Great cameras, and, I'm pretty tired of Android, actually, so, even though I hate Windows, Nokia might be preferable. What I need in a smartphone:
1) A working phone
2) A fast, integrated, non-battery-hungry GPS
3) An OK camera, where "high quality" is defined by Nikon and Canon SLR's.
I would also prefer a phone that can easily swap replace battery, SIM, and uSD, but, this seems to be on the decline, sigh.
So, curiously, even though I agree with some of your points, it is Android, and its Google-centric apps, that I am getting tired of.
I'm not sure why you are posting in this part of the forum. The average consumer wouldn't even know how to load iOS 7 onto their device so the whole post is really irrelevant to us here.
Yes, this is a discussion forum. And the only thing here to discuss is this: what the OP wants is already available in Android, not available in iOS, and won't be available in iOS for a very long time if ever.
You're just beating your head against a wall if you expect iOS to radically change internally in a short period of time.
Well he's just listing common complaints and expects for us to what? Give him a pat on the back? Truthfully nobody cares about one person leaving for android. And technically by description the thread doesn't belong in the iOS 7 forum since it has nothing to do with iOS 7 besides the one-liner that was put there to presumably keep the mods from moving this thread to wasteland or one of those other sub-forums no one looks at.
I'll do my best here. Sorry if I misunderstood your questions.
In iOS 6 you may add additional keyboards and then change the default to be one of them. To test my new Spanish keyboard survived a power cycle.
Does Google Plus register itself as accepting PDF files? For example, if you receive a PDF file in an e-mail and try to open it, if there is more than one app registered for PDF files iOS will prompt you for which app to open it in.
App-centric does take some getting used to I suppose, but sharing files in iTunes allows me to move around what little I do.
Oops. Was going to write more but supper is ready...
In iOS 6 you may add additional keyboards and then change the default to be one of them. To test my new Spanish keyboard survived a power cycle.
Does Google Plus register itself as accepting PDF files? For example, if you receive a PDF file in an e-mail and try to open it, if there is more than one app registered for PDF files iOS will prompt you for which app to open it in.
App-centric does take some getting used to I suppose, but sharing files in iTunes allows me to move around what little I do.
Oops. Was going to write more but supper is ready...
Telling him to get out (While making assumptions about the average user I might add) doesn't exactly help the situation either.
The simple answer is that Android is what has a current file system. if a file system is needed, either get Android or jailbreak ios.
To the Op, I would honestly jailbreak, esp. if all of your apps and such are on ios. I personally cannot stand ios at this point without jailbreaking myself.
Jailbreaking is as simple as being on a ios version that is jailbreakable (Hopefully ios7 will be shortly after launch), downloading a file, and folling what it says. Plus, you'll be able to have themes (and different icons), while keeping what ios7 adds.
I do like the additions of ios7, but I am going to immediately jailbreak and put a different app theme on it TYVM...
I always wonder why people with android devices still go to these apple sites lol. That's like wearing only adidas shoes but still going to the nike store to tell everyone how bad of a purchase they made while rambling on about how adidas are better.
Yeah... I jail broken all my iOS devices immediately after jailbreak available... And stay jailbreak as long as I could... I jailbroken iOS 5, iOS 6 and of course will jailbreak iOS 7... Not having iFiles and third party keyboard is huge annoyance for me.
This is a growing trend. Android offers a lot of benefits and flexibility. The same change is happening where I work. It's not because Apple is bad. It's just that Android has greatly improved and become highly useful.
As far as Google knowing about people, there's no reason to be paranoid. Apple & others know just as much, but are loved by the press. Furthermore it's big data collection agencies that know all. If you want to point fingers, blame big data. Then look in the mirror. You posted it, they simply collected it.
Welcome to reality circa 2013, privacy is but a myth. Don't believe it? You're not paying attention.
Is that all you got??? I own plenty of Apple products that i think are great like my iMac and MBA and im free to post on these forums all i like.
The difference is i like technology and im not a blind fanboy that buys everything that has an Apple logo on it, i buy products based on actual merit and when you take everything into consideration the iPhone and IOS are crap compared to some of the competition.
I would like to add on the conversation regarding the whole filesystem access craze .... I will take this discussion from an end-user perspective for the OP.
What he is mentioning is to have actual access to the files and then do whatever he wants. This is how iOS differs from Android ... Yes you have file explorers and access on Android. However that access is restricted (unless you root/jailbreak) to your sdcard where you can do whatever you want with files/folders.
So as an end-user all you want is 'space' to store your files/folders. In iOS this is achieved using 3rd party Apps (many out there!) with no App Size restriction, meaning you can load stuff into that app as much as the device allows.
From within that App you can Share/Pass any file onto other apps 'which support the file type'. There is no point passing a PDF file to G+ if its incapable of actually showing it. The way around this in iOS is for the App Developers to include file browser functionality within the App. So if Google would implement it in G+, then you could share across and then select it from within the app for further use.
Yes, iOS and Android are different in ways they handle files. Since we as end-users cannot really do anything about it, we have to find ways Around it and they work just fine once you get used to it.
For example -
Android
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1. Download zip file in browser
2. Click in File Explorer to get list of apps that can open it
3. Open that zip in the app
iOS
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1. Download zip in Safari
2. Use "Open In.." option on the page to get list of supported apps
3. Opens in selected app (You just dont 'see' the file in a list, but gets passed on in the backend to the app)
What he is mentioning is to have actual access to the files and then do whatever he wants. This is how iOS differs from Android ... Yes you have file explorers and access on Android. However that access is restricted (unless you root/jailbreak) to your sdcard where you can do whatever you want with files/folders.
So as an end-user all you want is 'space' to store your files/folders. In iOS this is achieved using 3rd party Apps (many out there!) with no App Size restriction, meaning you can load stuff into that app as much as the device allows.
From within that App you can Share/Pass any file onto other apps 'which support the file type'. There is no point passing a PDF file to G+ if its incapable of actually showing it. The way around this in iOS is for the App Developers to include file browser functionality within the App. So if Google would implement it in G+, then you could share across and then select it from within the app for further use.
Yes, iOS and Android are different in ways they handle files. Since we as end-users cannot really do anything about it, we have to find ways Around it and they work just fine once you get used to it.
For example -
Android
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1. Download zip file in browser
2. Click in File Explorer to get list of apps that can open it
3. Open that zip in the app
iOS
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1. Download zip in Safari
2. Use "Open In.." option on the page to get list of supported apps
3. Opens in selected app (You just dont 'see' the file in a list, but gets passed on in the backend to the app)
Is that all you got??? I own plenty of Apple products that i think are great like my iMac and MBA and im free to post on these forums all i like.
well the sad thing is that 75 percent of apples profit are based on iOS devices.
by the way Google Voice is so good, in terms of accuracy.
I really dont get why people like Swype, I used it when I had an android, but two each is own I guess. Sounds like you need less simplicity and move on to android with more customization.
I came from android and always felt like I was trying to make it like the iPhone. So I went to iPhone and yes its the same thing over and over again, but I find the iOS to be more quality in nature!
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I don't know if my statement is correct or not, but this is what i think. For Android, it is more like how you operate on most desktop OS. You download a file, then you go to download folder and open that file. Then it will ask you which app you want to use. This pattern is what we already used to do.
By the way, this way provides more usability.
The way iOS implemented is somewhat limited in my opinion. Take an example: when i open some other browser and download a .mp3 files. Since there is no centric file browser and every app is sandboxed, you can't really access that .mp3 file unless you open that app. What you can do is going to that app, chose open with then choose which app you want to do, then this file gets imported to other app.
Here is a problem, the .mp3 file downloaded from the browser is downloaded into that browser's file system and can't shared by other app. After I do the above step and import that file to the app i want to use, then i have two exactly same files sets there. One is set on browser's file system one is on player's file system.
If you were to have a file manager that is not sandboxed, you could have all app access that file manger and you don't have duplicated file.
It's funny how iOS people will tell you it's ok to switch to Android, but Android people will yell at you for even mentioning another OS... Hmm
On topic. You could send feedback and hope they listen. Other than that, you can switch to Android or Win 8 (might not have a file system though).
On topic. You could send feedback and hope they listen. Other than that, you can switch to Android or Win 8 (might not have a file system though).
I am not fanboy or remotely close to. But fanboyism going to be there anyway.
I have Android phone, which is good. I like large screen, I am not fan of constant zooming. But I keeping my iPhone around. I Also mainly using iPad mini and MacBook Air, Mac Mini and Hackintosh
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LOL... I don't know, Swype is good for one hand usability. It isn't really work well on tablet. It is useful when your second hand is unavailable... It is a good way to type relative fast.
But anyway my main point is that we should able to choose keyboard we like, not just limited to what is given