I am getting tired of iOS

[cynics]

No,he probably uses Dropbox like any normal person, where he can access his files from any device.

Isn't that a bit of a hassle? Dropbox doesn't have access to email. You'll need a middleman app to send it too before email. Even then it only works with basic documents. I don't think I could do anything with the other files in my Dropbox with iOS.

With the competition you can email whatever you want much simpler then iOS too. "Attach file", its like a Mac or PC. No one is confused by those when emailing.

 

[iapplelove]

This thread sucks and u lost me at u regret buying an iPad 3 lol

 

[cynics]

This thread sucks and u lost me at u regret buying an iPad 3 lol

I regret that too. I wish I'd had known the iPad 4 was right behind it.

The iPad 3's performance is too limited. More effects in games on the iPad 2 then the iPad 3 gets says all you need to know.

Edited: added pic

 

[Retired Cat]

I agree with the OP to a certain extent. I found it impossible to send multiple PDF files in a single email OR a way to zip PDF files to a single file and email that in iOS.

Add me to the list of people who find that frustrating too.

I wanted to send a DOCX and a PDF as attachments in an email last week, and there was no way to accomplish that.

The lack of some kind of accessible browser for stored content is annoying. What I like about iPhone is how seamless it is generally, but in this case it just felt limiting.

 

[iapplelove]

I regret that too. I wish I'd had known the iPad 4 was right behind it.

The iPad 3's performance is too limited. More effects in games on the iPad 2 then the iPad 3 gets says all you need to know.

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Edited: added pic

Your talking to someone who has owned all 3 of the first iPads . Never for a second I would give up the retina screen to go back to an iPad 2 lol.

I'm well aware of the disadvantage of the iPad 3 however the advantages for me far exceeded my expectation of how text and apps and all my photos looked .

Sorry but to say they regret buying something cause the next new thing was right around the corner doesn't hold weight

 

[Vetvito]

I can't get tired of iOS. I just use apps.

If you think about it, that's what all OSs offer. I'm jailbroken for Pwntunes and ifile, but I rarely use ifile.

 

[Nand]

I agree with the OP to a certain extent. I found it impossible to send multiple PDF files in a single email OR a way to zip PDF files to a single file and email that in iOS.

When I refinanced my house I was on vacation. The loan people needed a bunch of things from me. I was able to use my friends Galaxy S3 to get them all the information they needed in a very professional looking email from the beach. Since the iPhone couldn't do it.

I'm using my iPhone more and more like a toy that is incapable of doing professional type work. Which btw I don't think that's a problem. I generally use my phone for games, social networking and music and for those things I feel the iPhone is better.

Yes you can...
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1602913/

You are not limited to attaching single PDFs to email from the Adobe app.

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[bushido]

i agree about point number 4, its annoying that apps do not communicate with each other and that i cannot decide for myself which app i want to set as default

 

[Jarland]

This thread seems odd. If you want another OS, switch to that OS. Apple isn't going to just turn a product upside down that is banking. Go elsewhere, tell Apple you aren't willing to pay for this (because it sounds like you don't want it anyway). If enough people don't do the same to make a difference, you know you aren't their market. If enough do, they have to adapt.

It's really quite simple. Don't take something that is selling and completely change it from the ground up because outspoken people on the internet say so.

 

[robjulo]

Yes you can...
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1602913/

And what happens when you didn't initially open or edit those pdfs with the adobe app? The sandboxing simply gets in the way of productivity.

 

[cynics]

Yes you can...
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1602913/

My adobe will not do that. I responded in that thread you linked. If it is possible like you pictured without jailbreak its certainly the most un user friendly thing ever.

Do you know how its accomplished? I need a step by step.

 

[ritmomundo]

First, don't get me wrong. iOS 7 is a beautiful OS beside the icons. Beta 4 is stable enough, although it still lags on the "trial product" iPad 3. Yes, after arguing with bunch of people, I still think iPad 3 is a "test product" from Apple. I am deeply regret of buying iPad 3.

Now, let's go back to main topic.

For years, iOS has been looked the same. Yes, iOS 7 has new look, but it is still the same old thing. Still pages and pages of icon , still no basics file system, apps still can't communicate well, still the same old way of operating the system.

Using iOS for me is like having a mother beside you and you can only do way she approves. She thinks you are an idiot and you can think. She is limiting you because she is afraid you might catch a virus or something.

1. Where is my ability to change default keyboard? For most English speakers, default English keyboard maybe OK for you, but after use Swype, you can't go back. Chinese keyboard is still lag, per-loaded word banks are lacking. There are bunch of gold Chinese, Japanese, Korean keyboard out there, but you can't use it unless you jailbreak.

2. If I open a PDF attachment, I can only open this PDF with Apple approved Apps, no other. I can't share this PDF to google plus or some other app not I can download the attachment to download folder.

3. I don't know the reason of not having file system. Majority of mobile OS from Android to Windows, from Windows to BlackBerry all have file system. It is huge inconvenient and annoying,

4. After 6 years, apps still cannot communicate each other. If I want to share a link on Google Plus what do I do? I need copy the link, to back to home screen, find Google Plus, open Google a plus, then post. That is hugely annoying. If I come across a video and I want to download this video, what do I do? I either go grad a browser that allow me download or I can't download at all. Even if I download a browser and download that video, I still cannot play it with my favourite player. It is still impossible to import music file directly from one app or default music app. Now you get what I am saying.

5. The most annoying thing is that all those annoyances can be and should be solved long time ago. All these annoyances can be solved by jailbreak, but tat's require you jailbreak.

I don't know how long before I give up iOS, I already switch from iPhone 4S to Nexus 4. The main reason for me keeping iPad is the 4:3 screen and tablet Apps. But the annoyances are truly annoying.

If you're bored and looking for new features, then downgrade to 6.0.1 (which I believe was still being signed as of a few days ago) and jailbreak your device.

Download DreamBoard to change up the look/layout of your home screen. Download iFile for a file browser. Download TouchPal for a Swype-like keyboard.

All the solutions you're looking for are out there. If jailbreaking isn't for you, then head over to your nearest Best Buy and get yourself the latest Android.

 

[MacDevil7334]

Apple stopped signing 6.0.x within an hour of the alert going out on twitter. Do not try to downgrade to anything but 6.1.3 (or 6.1.4 on the iPhone 5) or the restore will fail.

 

[Nand]

My adobe will not do that. I responded in that thread you linked. If it is possible like you pictured without jailbreak its certainly the most un user friendly thing ever.

Do you know how its accomplished? I need a step by step.

Ok, sorry but I never see your response in the other thread and I thought he already answered your question ( I don't use adobe).. My bad.

I personally use iattachment, for sending multiple attachment

Step by step
http://moldybluecheesecurds.tumblr....g-multiple-file-attachments-to-ipad-or-iphone

 

[robjulo]

Ok, sorry but I never see your response in the other thread and I thought he already answered your question ( I don't use adobe).. My bad.

I personally use iattachment, for sending multiple attachment

Step by step
http://moldybluecheesecurds.tumblr....g-multiple-file-attachments-to-ipad-or-iphone

But, from a practicality standpoint, it is cumbersome as it creates a "new message".

For example, you get copied, along with 10 others, on a message asking for sales plans for the next two months. Now, you have to manually input each and every email into your new message.

Reply all, add attachments, so much simpler.

For a company that prides itself on making things simple and easy, the file management does not come close to that goal.

 

[batting1000]

So, unless you only have praise for the capabilities of iOS you're supposed to not post here?!?!

I, for one, find his criticisms (and many others on various topics here) very informative. He laid out, in detail, many of the problems he has run into in with iOS. Some of them I've run into myself, but not all. He's given me a heads up to problems I may run into in the future. It's just info. Do with it what you want.

Do you also get angry at a movie reviewer who criticizes a crappy movie?

I suppose you'd rather this site be only inhabited by a bunch of glossy eyed fanboys who only post comments like 'ooh, I love how the icons look like they're in 3D space in iOS7 - soooo pretty."

Yes, but he's complaining as though we can fix it.

 

[JohnGrey]

Yes, but he's complaining as though we can fix it.

Commiseration is the first step to group action, and effective change. Yes, individually one can complain or offer feedback through the Apple site. But it would be a mistake to assume that Apple doesn't come to forums devoted to its products and services to get additional feedback. It's also a mistake to assume that their desire is to always make a better or "revolutionary" iOS with each iteration. The general attitude with Apple, and a fair few of its supporters it seems, for years is to make it just good enough to keep the YoY profits at acceptable levels. That kind of mediocre, path-of-least-resistance philosophy for a company specializing in high-cost discretionary items in a climate of increasing economic instability is like playing Russian roulette with three bullets instead of one. It works until it doesn't, but you also don't get a second chance.

 

[DaveOP]

Without reading much after the OP, it seems like all you want is Google+ integration, in which case Android makes much more sense for you.

 

[HarryAinslie]

Yes, iOS 7 has new look, but it is still the same old thing. Still pages and pages of icon , still no basics file system, apps still can't communicate well, still the same old way of operating the system.

I fully understand where you're coming from, but why would any company completely change what it does?

The things you want to do is not what the majority of apple customers want to do.

I think you're living in a bubble and if you really hate iOS that much then just move along

 

[springsup]

Using iOS for me is like having a mother beside you and you can only do way she approves. She thinks you are an idiot and you can think. She is limiting you because she is afraid you might catch a virus or something.

I don't think you're going to be happy with iOS if you're the the kind of person who thinks people are 'limiting you' because they think you're stupid.

Apple don't limit you. They might not share your priorities, but they don't not include features because they think people are too dumb to understand them. If people can't understand how to use your product, it's not because they're mentally inept - it's because you made your product too hard to understand. Internally, people at Apple don't say "oh, we'd love to have a user-accessible filesystem but our users are just too stupid!"

If there's a question you can't answer (or can't answer well), sometimes it's better to leave it and come back to it later if a better solution arises.

1. Where is my ability to change default keyboard? For most English speakers, default English keyboard maybe OK for you, but after use Swype, you can't go back. Chinese keyboard is still lag, per-loaded word banks are lacking. There are bunch of gold Chinese, Japanese, Korean keyboard out there, but you can't use it unless you jailbreak.

Rather than have everybody use variably-good keyboards, Apple would prefer to have one keyboard that works well for everybody. The keyboard is a software application, but it's part of the core OS experience and Apple feel you shouldn't have to mess with that.

2. If I open a PDF attachment, I can only open this PDF with Apple approved Apps, no other. I can't share this PDF to google plus or some other app not I can download the attachment to download folder.

Well, I can share PDFs to DropBox or GoodReader. Apps need to declare which files they can open, and evidently Google+ does not support opening PDF files.

3. I don't know the reason of not having file system. Majority of mobile OS from Android to Windows, from Windows to BlackBerry all have file system. It is huge inconvenient and annoying

So you don't know the problem with the file system?

in every user interface study we’ve ever done, [we found] it’s pretty easy to learn how to use these things ‘til you hit the file system and then the learning curve goes vertical. So you ask yourself, why is the file system the face of the OS? Wouldn’t it be better if there was a better way to find stuff?

Now, e-mail, there’s always been a better way to find stuff. You don’t keep your e-mail on your file system, right? The app manages it. And that was the breakthrough, as an example, in iTunes. You don’t keep your music in the file system, that would be crazy. You keep it in this app that knows about music and knows how to find things in lots of different ways. Same with photos: we’ve got an app that knows all about photos. And these apps manage their own file storage.

On a desktop, you probably spend most of your time navigating from the Finder or Windows Explorer. Apple didn't want the filesystem to be the 'face of the OS' on iOS the way it was on those platforms or other mobile OSes like Symbian, WinMo or Palm.

It appears that the filesystem isn't the best system or metaphor for this stuff; it's not as accessible as you think. A better system is needed. Apple don't yet know what that system is. We don't know what a "good" solution looks like, but the evidence suggests that the traditional filesystem is not one. Apple has decided that it's better to not directly answer the question than to answer it incorrectly.

4. After 6 years, apps still cannot communicate each other. If I want to share a link on Google Plus what do I do? I need copy the link, to back to home screen, find Google Plus, open Google a plus, then post. That is hugely annoying. If I come across a video and I want to download this video, what do I do? I either go grad a browser that allow me download or I can't download at all. Even if I download a browser and download that video, I still cannot play it with my favourite player. It is still impossible to import music file directly from one app or default music app. Now you get what I am saying.

If you want to share it on Facebook or Twitter (or Weibo or whatever), it's a lot easier. Tap Share > Facebook (for example).

The default media Apps (music, movies) don't accept external files. They're there for iTunes Music, the same way they were on the iPod. I would also like that to change, but it's not that big a deal.

5. The most annoying thing is that all those annoyances can be and should be solved long time ago. All these annoyances can be solved by jailbreak, but tat's require you jailbreak.

Apple don't publicly reason their engineering decisions to us, although if you'd watched some WWDC talks you'd understand a lot better.

 

[DariusX]

For those of you who really need a "file-system" to store and email multiple documents, check out "Documents" by readdle on the App Store; it addressed most of the issues I had with iOS.

 

[SakuraSuki]

I don't think you're going to be happy with iOS if you're the the kind of person who thinks people are 'limiting you' because they think you're stupid.

Apple don't limit you. They might not share your priorities, but they don't not include features because they think people are too dumb to understand them. If people can't understand how to use your product, it's not because they're mentally inept - it's because you made your product too hard to understand. Internally, people at Apple don't say "oh, we'd love to have a user-accessible filesystem but our users are just too stupid!"

If there's a question you can't answer (or can't answer well), sometimes it's better to leave it and come back to it later if a better solution arises.



Rather than have everybody use variably-good keyboards, Apple would prefer to have one keyboard that works well for everybody. The keyboard is a software application, but it's part of the core OS experience and Apple feel you shouldn't have to mess with that.

Sometimes default isn't the best one. The software keyboard on iOS certainly is not the best one. I have came across many good keyboard on Android, it is frustrating to not have those software keyboards. I don't really see how changing software keyboard will dramatically impact overall user experience. This has been long requested features and lots of people jailbreak for changing keyboard.

Well, I can share PDFs to DropBox or GoodReader. Apps need to declare which files they can open, and evidently Google+ does not support opening PDF files.

Well, there is fundamental difference between our opinion. PDF is just one example. If I came a cross online .mp4 file and I want to save it. There is no way to do it, because you can save this mp4 file to any apps, at least for now. Other example is that, if I want to share a picture on some site other than Facebook, Twitter or Weibo, I need do extra steps. I think when it comes to share or action, it might as well show all app seems appropriate, not just Apple pre-build one.

So you don't know the problem with the file system?



On a desktop, you probably spend most of your time navigating from the Finder or Windows Explorer. Apple didn't want the filesystem to be the 'face of the OS' on iOS the way it was on those platforms or other mobile OSes like Symbian, WinMo or Palm.

It appears that the filesystem isn't the best system or metaphor for this stuff; it's not as accessible as you think. A better system is needed. Apple don't yet know what that system is. We don't know what a "good" solution looks like, but the evidence suggests that the traditional filesystem is not one. Apple has decided that it's better to not directly answer the question than to answer it incorrectly.

File system has its own advantages. I rather have my file saved to a centralized location than have files saved in different apps separately. This not only introduce file duplication issue, but sometime you might nor remember where you saved a file.

If Apple feel file system isn't e optimized way but yet not know what is a better way, they it should keep file system until it figures out,

And I really can't see how file system is default bad given almost all major mobile OS supports file system.

If you want to share it on Facebook or Twitter (or Weibo or whatever), it's a lot easier. Tap Share > Facebook (for example).

What happens when you want to share into different service provider beside Facebook, Twitter or Weibo. Certainly I know quite a few. Then I need to open the application then to write a post. I don't think it should be this way.

The default media Apps (music, movies) don't accept external files. They're there for iTunes Music, the same way they were on the iPod. I would also like that to change, but it's not that big a deal.

Well, I found a jailbreak app solves the problem. But again, it wish this can be changed. We should not have sync our iPad every time we download a new song. It is very annoying to me.

 

[HarryAinslie]

We should not have sync our iPad every time we download a new song. It is very annoying to me.

Turn on Automatic Downloads

 

[SakuraSuki]

Turn on Automatic Downloads

Not every song was download from iTunes. I happen to not having Chinese credit card, though I am Chinese, so i cannot buy sings from iTunes Store. There is not easy way for me to get Chinese iTunes gift card, so I have to download song from somewhere else. This also applies to Japanese songs.

 

[robjulo]

So you don't know the problem with the file system?

Tell me how to simply Reply to an email that has about 10 or 12 recipients and add an attachment, or better yet, multiple attachments.

That is the problem with not having a file system.

A file system doesn't have to be something complicated. It could be something as simple as one folder named "downloads". That would be much less complicated than the mess that sandboxing becomes.