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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I just can't wait to ditch Touch ID once and for alllllllllllll

sumsingwong said:
The touch ID or other FPS has been around for a while. You think Apple is the only one the spends time and money on this technology. Btw... Authentech was the one who did R&D for biometrics long before Apple thought about using Touch ID on the iPhone. Guess who Authentech was partnered with before Apple purchased them? That's right! That evil company we know of named Samsung. Let me guess, you think Apple did R&D for Face ID as well?
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First, you insinuate, a lot. I have no idea why you're even bringing touch ID into this discussion. I'm not referring to Touch ID, it's about other forms of biometric that have been bypassed with facial recognition, as with Samsung. And I don't find Samsung to be an evil Company or even why are you assuming this. However I am implicating the truth that Samsungs facial recognition has been defeated by others with a photo. Apples research and development team is guaranteeing that it cannot be fooled by photo and even went as far as using replica masks of somebody's face to ensure it cannot be bypassed.

Nobody's questioning if Facial technology has not been around for a while, but how many of them are using this as their primary source of security and have not gotten hacked? Apple is claiming they took the insecurities of previous facial recognition and made sure there it cannot be fooled to great lengths. Apple has one primary form of security that are using with iPhone X and that will be Face ID. So you can guarantee the research and development went beyond To ensure the security will not be manipulated and protecting millions of consumers identity.
 
sumsingwong said:
It seems a lot of iPhone users feel Touch ID is very significant.
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That’s the point. Catering to inchoate, equivocal reservations from users who haven’t tested the technology is fine when there’s no material impact in doing so—as with weak passcodes, which is just a software option enabled with effectively one line of code. Adding a second hardware path to the Secure Enclave means, at a minimum, adding another optical sensor and a surrounding bezel just because a vocal minority of tape-over-webcam conspiracy hobbyists want progress off their lawn.
 
Relentless Power said:
First, you insinuate, a lot. I have no idea why you're even bringing touch ID into this discussion. I'm not referring to Touch ID, it's about other forms of biometric that have been bypassed with facial recognition, as with Samsung. And I don't find Samsung to be an evil Company or even why are you assuming this. However I am implicating the truth that Samsungs facial recognition has been defeated by others with a photo. Apples research and development team is guaranteeing that it cannot be fooled by photo and even went as far as using replica masks of somebody's face to ensure it cannot be bypassed.

Nobody's questioning if Facial technology has not been around for a while, but how many of them are using this as their primary source of security and have not gotten hacked? Apple is claiming they took the insecurities of previous facial recognition and made sure there it cannot be fooled to great lengths. Apple has one primary form of security that are using with iPhone X and that will be Face ID. So you can guarantee the research and development went beyond To ensure the security will not be manipulated and protecting millions of consumers identity.
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So what you're saying is companies who have been using this tech are using inferior facial truedepth recognition compared to Apple because Apple told them they want the best and the others said we'll take good enough? I understand Apple is going to be the first to use this tech on a smartphone and I'm giving credit for that but Apple is not be all end all. That tech will continue to be improve and other phones will get it and probably more refined.
 
sumsingwong said:
So what you're saying is companies who have been using this tech are using inferior facial truedepth recognition compared to Apple because Apple told them they want the best and the others said we'll take good enough? I understand Apple is going to be the first to use this tech on a smartphone and I'm giving credit for that but Apple is not be all end all. That tech will continue to be improve and other phones will get it and probably more refined.
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In the Bolded above, I have no idea where you derived that from previous Post. Facial recognition technology isn't anything necessarily new. Samsung has their version of facial recognition AND other forms Of security, which ultimately has had reliability issues and inconsistencies with those who have created a work around to manipulate it. That's been proven before.

Apple, has developed their form a facial recognition that they are claiming they have tested Face ID on people from many countries, cultures, races and ethnicities, using over one billion images to train on neural networks and defend against spoofing, through the secure enclave . Not to mention, how they worked with professional mask makers and make up artist to even test Face ID. Apple has chosen facial recognition to be the primary source of security, ultimately moving forward away from touch ID. Apple is that confident in this technology and amount of research and development they have invested to ensure it cannot be manipulated, hacked or spoofed. It's not a secret this company clearly values and understands what it takes for this to be technology to be executed perfectly, actually given their stating it's going to take one out of million to unlock Face ID. But soon enough, we will find out how well it works.
 
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Diorama said:
Damn son, did you eat a thesaurus for breakfast? You sound like the Architect from the second matrix movie.
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Had to look up inchoate. Was somewhat familiar with the word but was never able to use it in a sentence. Still not sure if I ever will. I had an inchoate sense of annoyance towards the whole idea of trying to use the word.
 
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