iPhone 12 I don't want to go back to fingerprint scanners again...

[lkalliance]

Just turn off raise to wake on the iPhone if you want more control over unlocking. You tap the screen to turn on the phone and initiate an unlock.

Another good idea would have been for me to research the issue more thoroughly. My daughter just showed me that though the phone unlocks and indicates so on the lock screen, it remains on the lock screen until you swipe up (i.e. press the home button). Right there is the active user element. Though the phone is unlocked (protections removed, which isn't ideal) I am only taken out of the lock screen if I actively choose to. This is a better outcome than I feared it would be.

(This actually was a WEAKNESS with Touch ID, particularly the second generation Touch ID: it read your fingerprint so fast, that you didn't even have an option to view the lock screen before it had authenticated you and gone to the home screen. But raise-to-wake fixed this.)

 

[Barbareren]

Just turn off raise to wake on the iPhone if you want more control over unlocking. You tap the screen to turn on the phone and initiate an unlock.

Agreed. That’s what I do as well - mainly to save some battery life, because having the screen turn on all willy-nilly hundreds of times a day must surely affect the battery.

 

[MisterSavage]

Another good idea would have been for me to research the issue more thoroughly. My daughter just showed me that though the phone unlocks and indicates so on the lock screen, it remains on the lock screen until you swipe up (i.e. press the home button). Right there is the active user element. Though the phone is unlocked (protections removed, which isn't ideal) I am only taken out of the lock screen if I actively choose to. This is a better outcome than I feared it would be.

(This actually was a WEAKNESS with Touch ID, particularly the second generation Touch ID: it read your fingerprint so fast, that you didn't even have an option to view the lock screen before it had authenticated you and gone to the home screen. But raise-to-wake fixed this.)

So full disclosure if your screen lights up because of an incoming notification things such as text messages won't be readable if the screen is unlocked. But if you happen to look at the screen when it lights up for a notification and the phone sees you and unlocks then those messages become readable. If you don't swipe up to get off the lock screen then the screen will just go back to sleep in a few seconds and lock the phone.

 

[lkalliance]

So full disclosure if your screen lights up because of an incoming notification things such as text messages won't be readable if the screen is unlocked. But if you happen to look at the screen when it lights up for a notification and the phone sees you and unlocks then those messages become readable. If you don't swipe up to get off the lock screen then the screen will just go back to sleep in a few seconds and lock the phone

OK, interesting. Will have to play around while my daughter is here and I can act the part of old man that needs showing how this newfangled doohickey works.

 

[IngridY]

I love TouchID, fast to unlock to read new messages, don't need to look at the screen

 

[boss.king]

FaceID on the iPad Pro is so easy that you never notice it happening. you just go to your iPad and it is unlocked. It even allows unlock from different angles that the phone can't handle. I would hate to have to always reach out and swipe my finger on the power button. With the iPad Prod, the iPad just seems to always be unlocked when I want it with no action required.

That just straight up isn’t true in my experience. It struggles regularly even on pretty common angles, and basically needs me to hold it up to my face to recognize me. If it does even worse than that on the phone then that would be a pretty awful experience.

 

[Phone Junky]

I love TouchID, fast to unlock to read new messages, don't need to look at the screen

How can you do the first without doing the second?

 

[MisterSavage]

That just straight up isn’t true in my experience. It struggles regularly even on pretty common angles, and basically needs me to hold it up to my face to recognize me. If it does even worse than that on the phone then that would be a pretty awful experience.

I use mine on a stand and a lap pillow and it almost never fails for me. I don't have to move my face close to the iPad. Have you tried redoing the initial Face ID setup?

 

[Airforcekid]

Not sure what you mean here but hey anybody wit’s an iPhone can read text without taking for focus away from a conversation.

Like what conversation are you talking about - you’re reading a text most likely (unless the 1st message) is a conversation. Do you mean a in-person conversation, or a conversation in another app, or ??

If I am sitting in a meeting I can take my finger and quickly read the text without picking up the phone or distracting the speaker on my SE2 that's impossible on my 12 unless I want to see that I just got a notification but no content (Both have profiles from the government cant adjust the settings). It just looks as though I put my finger on a note and read over it really fast to the presenter so they don't feel insulted. I have to chew out younger officers and enlisted all the time for using phones so raising a phone to my face would be hypocritical and in my opinion disrespectful.

 

[Jayson A]

I love TouchID, fast to unlock to read new messages, don't need to look at the screen

Crazy how you can read messages without looking at the screen.

I love how when my phone lights up from a message or a notification, all I have to do is glance at the screen and they expand into readable messages. All without ever even touching the screen. I'm at work and my phone is on a stand by my monitor, when a message comes in, I just turn my head slightly to look at it and the message expands. It's so handy to not have to touch the device to unlock it. Then, if there's nothing I want to respond to, it falls alseep and locks itself again.

 

[boss.king]

I use mine on a stand and a lap pillow and it almost never fails for me. I don't have to move my face close to the iPad. Have you tried redoing the initial Face ID setup?

Yup. I’ve also set up different appearances or whatever they’re called from different angles, and even completely reset my iPad, and tested it out on a friends iPad. I mostly use mine on a desk like a notepad, but even when handheld at a regular distance I get more failures than I’d consider acceptable (probably 1 in 8 attempts fails under what I’d consider to be ideal circumstances - iPad at elbow length from face, straight on, nothing obstructing my head or face).

TouchID isn’t perfect either, but I’ve found it to be more reliable.

 

[cupcakes2000]

I love TouchID, fast to unlock to read new messages, don't need to look at the screen

Post of the day. *Can read the screen without looking at it *

 

[Conglomeride In]

You clearly don’t know how it works then. It needs a 3D representation of your face or some twin to unlock your phone. There’s a reason why there’s an IR blaster that allows faceID to be used even in the dark.

To make a 3D model of your face that is very similar to your actual face takes time and effort. Only those who are truly dedicated in stealing your phone would do this. And by the time you realize your phone has been stolen, I would hope some sense in locking/erasing your phone via Find My.

First of all I know exactly how it works (thus the reason why I have a major issue with the feature). It never ceases to amaze me how these forums attract people (like you) who love to argue and be contrary for the sake of being contrary, and when arguing against the assertions I’ve made people (like you) actually undergird it. Do you not realize they you’re actually agreeing with my premise that Face ID can be Fooled and circumvented? You said so yourself that a person willing to put in the time and “effort” could (or would) do this, and thats my point dummy, one of the hurdddles that they would have to jump is already out of the way, they KNOW what your password is ITS YOUR FACE!🤨
In today’s age of affordable 3-D printers, 3-D cameras powered with rapidly advancing AI and not to mention the tools and vast resources in the hands of over reaching prying governments “face id” is folly to use.
There is nothing more secure than a finger print backed by a secret encrypted long alpha numeric special charactered passcode…(period).

 

[Saladin12]

Seems like a worthy contribution to this thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/ipkbin

 

[cupcakes2000]

First of all I know exactly how it works (thus the reason why I have a major issue with the feature). It never ceases to amaze me how these forums attract people (like you) who love to argue and be contrary for the sake of being contrary, and when arguing against the assertions I’ve made people (like you) actually undergird it. Do you not realize they you’re actually agreeing with my premise that Face ID can be Fooled and circumvented? You said so yourself that a person willing to put in the time and “effort” could (or would) do this, and thats my point dummy, one of the hurdddles that they would have to jump is already out of the way, they KNOW what your password is ITS YOUR FACE!🤨
In today’s age of affordable 3-D printers, 3-D cameras powered with rapidly advancing AI and not to mention the tools and vast resources in the hands of over reaching prying governments “face id” is folly to use.
There is nothing more secure than a finger print backed by a secret encrypted long alpha numeric special charactered passcode…(period).

Great story. Except, this doesn’t actually happen, regardless of what you think. Have your tried to build a 3D representation of someone’s face with a 3D printer and then had it work? No? I didn’t think so. It’s far easier to nick someone’s phone and chip their finger off to use touch is to unlock, in fact.

I do admit though, Making up ‘easy ways to do stuff’ on the internet is far easier than doing them. It doesn’t suddenly make it fact though.

 

[MisterSavage]

Great story. Except, this doesn’t actually happen, regardless of what you think. Have your tried to build a 3D representation of someone’s face with a 3D printer and then had it work? No? I didn’t think so. It’s far easier to nick someone’s phone and chip their finger off to use touch is to unlock, in fact.

I do admit though, Making up ‘easy ways to do stuff’ on the internet is far easier than doing them. It doesn’t suddenly make it fact though.

Seriously. Plus if someone steals my phone and somehow (lol) produces a 3D mask of my face they still only have 10 attempts to get it right before the phone erases itself.

 

[sparky1499]

Face ID on iPhone is fine, while on iPad is a nightmare

This. It’s a pain.

 

[satchmo]

Has FaceId improved since iPhone 11 Pro?
It still struggles to read when even on a slight angle.
I actually think I prefer TouchID for greater reliability each time.

 

[telo123]

First of all I know exactly how it works (thus the reason why I have a major issue with the feature). It never ceases to amaze me how these forums attract people (like you) who love to argue and be contrary for the sake of being contrary, and when arguing against the assertions I’ve made people (like you) actually undergird it. Do you not realize they you’re actually agreeing with my premise that Face ID can be Fooled and circumvented? You said so yourself that a person willing to put in the time and “effort” could (or would) do this, and thats my point dummy, one of the hurdddles that they would have to jump is already out of the way, they KNOW what your password is ITS YOUR FACE!🤨
In today’s age of affordable 3-D printers, 3-D cameras powered with rapidly advancing AI and not to mention the tools and vast resources in the hands of over reaching prying governments “face id” is folly to use.
There is nothing more secure than a finger print backed by a secret encrypted long alpha numeric special charactered passcode…(period).

So you would rather use Touch ID and then input a password or vice versa every single time your phone requests it? To each their own I guess. I think Apple knows that you and whatever population is in agreement with you are seriously underpopulated and would rather appease the masses that prefer the way it is now.

You can also 3D print fingerprints that can bypass fingerprint scanners btw.

Stop using iPhone X and above then. Use iPhone SE 2 (or any iphone that still has a fingerprint scanner) or go to an Android if you strongly wish to use both your fingerprint and passcode.

 

[poked]

Nor has Face ID failed me. It uses an IR camera, a dot projector, and a flood illuminator to work in the dark equally as well as in light.

My iPhone 11 doesn’t let me use faceID in those conditions. Sucks I’d have to get a new phone just to unlock things in low light, like when I’m in the passenger seat of a car at 7pm and trying to listen to some tunes.

 

[Saladin12]

My iPhone 11 doesn’t let me use faceID in those conditions. Sucks I’d have to get a new phone just to unlock things in low light, like when I’m in the passenger seat of a car at 7pm and trying to listen to some tunes.

It's possible your 11 may be faulty? My XS unlocks absolutely fine in darkness... It seems like another user above had an issue with the 11 Pro, does anybody know if there was a widespread issue with the 11 line?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

It's possible your 11 may be faulty? My XS unlocks absolutely fine in darkness... It seems like another user above had an issue with the 11 Pro, does anybody know if there was a widespread issue with the 11 line?

I have the 11 pro max, and face ID works in complete darkness just fine, even from more than an arm's length away.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

My iPhone 11 doesn’t let me use faceID in those conditions. Sucks I’d have to get a new phone just to unlock things in low light, like when I’m in the passenger seat of a car at 7pm and trying to listen to some tunes.

How recently did you get your phone? It often takes a while for it to learn your face well enough to recognize it under any conditions. I’ve had my phone for over two years now, so it can recognize me almost every single time.

 

[ecatomb]

I can't really use FaceID with a mask.

One time out of ten, it failed to unlock the iPhone.
It could be acceptable if I could use FaceID in app with my mask. But for app, you have to enter your password or remove the mask 😭

 

[ShadowGuardian87]

I miss touch ID and still holding out hope that this years iPhone will bring it back. Though it seems unlikely given the reports I have read.