that's my point Apple didn't want to make the iPad as the iPhone no one make mistake twice
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that's my point Apple didn't want to make the iPad as the iPhone no one make mistake twice
You’re not seeing things clearly/logically here. Apple did make the iPad like the iPhone - the Face ID sensors are the same size. The bezels on the iPad are bigger so the Face ID tech is hidden away.
The iPad & iPhone are different devices - one needs a bezel for gripping it properly, the other can get away with a much smaller bezel, which for the time being, makes the Face ID/camera/sensors poke out.
It won’t be like that forever...just accept it & move on fcol...
The notch will exit with or without under screen tech. Apple is witnessing lower iPhone sales and the drop off occurred with the X line.
There are three primary reasons for the drop off in sales; 1) reaching point of saturation, 2) price versus value for the current offerings, and 3) a significant portion of iPhone buyers don't like the current form factor (notch).
Apple will deal with the above challenges. The three are somewhat interrelated. If Apple wants to open up new markets and get existing users to upgrade they must create value. Value will be created by either lowering prices or building something that excites the masses again. The X line did not do either of those, and thus, Apple is losing sales.
They will get ride of the notch one way or another. It is an abomination and they know it. They must excite people again or Android will continue to take over.
The drop off occurred with the iPhone XS and XS Max, not the iPhone X. The iPhone X was a blockbuster.
Points 1 and 2 are valid. Point 3 is just nonsense. Point 3 should have been the economic slow down in China.
I wish people would post truthfully instead of just making stuff up. The world would be a much better place without your lies. Spreading your fake news doesn't help anyone.
The notch was a styling disaster. The bottom line is that exciting new phone designs will sell. The unbalanced esthetic of the X line is terrible and isn't selling.
Design something that people want and it will sell, regardless of factors 1 and 2.
But people want the X. The reason the XS and XS Max are not selling as well is because of 1, 2 and the China slowdown. We know those are the reasons for poorer sales because a) Samsung’s high priced phones without a notch have also seen declined sales and b) cheap phones with or without a notch are selling fine.
Get rid of all of those and the XS and XS Max would be selling like hot cakes. You’ve incorrectly attributed the sales decline to the wrong reason. Please correct your knowledge.
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd in the end the iPad Pro has Screen to body ratio with 85.51% while iPhone XS Max has only 84.4% which means that, in overall the iPad Pro Seems more advance when it comes to body ratio slightly better than XS Max. Maybe when iPhone XI comes, the notches would be reduce its size.
There is no indication of this happening. It doesn’t need to be reduced, because outside of this forum, no one cares about it. And the technology itself with all the sensors, for projector, camera and speaker, it’s not about a reduction, it’s a matter of Apple changing the overall design altogether.
I don't know if I right or wrong but bottom line Apple are selling less iPhones I am sure that deferent people that not upgrading have deferent reasons, my reasons are 1- I have the iPhone 8+ and don't see any reason to upgrade,
2- the NOTCH, 3- price
2- the NOTCH, 3- price
I could see the notch argument more if the notch wasn't on most all phones nowadays. It's not ideal but it's there and it is what it is. I do agree with you on the point of it not being that much of an upgrade. If you had a X there was no reason to go up to a XS. X to Max? Sure if you want the extra screen real estate. As far as price being a reason not to upgrade, well the price is only get higher each year.
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Where does that number come from? Did you just come up with an arbitrary number?
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its hard to face the reality ha?
Very incomplete response. Where is the data showing the direct correlation between Apple stock price and the presence of the notch as opposed to analyst-acknowledged effects of China market concerns and sales impacts from high prices?
What pisses me off is Apple is stubborn and will stick with the notch.
Meanwhile every other company is trying different variations and designs to eliminate the need for a notch.
Gonna stick with my 8 + for a while.
Meanwhile every other company is trying different variations and designs to eliminate the need for a notch.
Gonna stick with my 8 + for a while.
If you're that pissed off, I suggest you switch to an Android phone so you can stick it to the man for sticking to the notch.
Actually, I'm pretty sure the notch will disappear as soon as its not needed anymore.
In the meantime, the vast majority of people who own a notched iPhone are perfectly fine with it. I have an iPhone X myself. I don't like the phone as much as my iPhone 7, but it has nothing to do with the notch. It's just too damn big and heavy and I miss TouchID.
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There's a very easy way to solve this.
Don't be an Apple buyer.
I don't mind it. This is how Apple proceeds - they will secretly work on a notch-less design while releasing the same notch style for 1-3 years more and will release the next big thing, instead of doing small steps every year.
They could've made the bezels smaller and smaller with every year until iPhone 8/X but they did not change a thing and then released the X which everyone started copying and basically that's how the companies started innovating again.
Apple should’ve gone with thin bezels top and bottom, at least until they engineered a better solution to the notch.
My guess is the marketing people at Apple pushed Cook to go with the notch to make the iPhone look “different”.
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