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iPhone 15 Pro I have bought case and screen protector for 15 pro, but will still skip it since too many kinds of reported problems
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Very few over here can think objectively like you do
Or you should just return your iPhone or sell It and downgrade to a 14 Pro Max. Cheaper too.
Maybe exactly because you are not a professional.
Apple marketing is DESIGNED to mislead people. What are you expecting?
While it is true $1k is a lot of money, the value people get from those $1k is fairly subjective. Some like you want good value from it. Others maybe not so much, or a different set of value. That’s why pricing a product is tricky. Meanwhile, Apple brands itself as a luxury tech company, so expectation is naturally high. Has iPhone 15 lineup Met the expectation? I’d say mostly yes. And to them, it’s a win.
Value is subjective, but my response wasn’t intended to debate whether the 15 lineup is (or isn’t) good value for money. The point is that we should be okay with people asking questions or debating perceived shortcomings of these products because that’s a legitimate thing to do in making (or confirming) one’s own assessment of value, particularly when a product is being marketed as superior or premium.
Another day, another whiney OP 
I’ve been using my 15 pro all weekend since receiving on Friday and I can tell you that yes it has gotten warm but no where near as hot as my 14 pro has gotten which I’m super grateful for.
I’ve been using my 15 pro all weekend since receiving on Friday and I can tell you that yes it has gotten warm but no where near as hot as my 14 pro has gotten which I’m super grateful for.
Another day, another whiney OP
I’ve been using my 15 pro all weekend since receiving on Friday and I can tell you that yes it has gotten warm but no where near as hot as my 14 pro has gotten which I’m super grateful for.
Same here - most of the warmth occurred during the setup phase, and even then it was no worse than my 12 mini. Now that I've settled into day to day usage, it barely gets warm at all.
Apple makes returns easy - I don't understand why people make purchasing decisions based on some youtube video.
On the video most visible difference is that with selfies and artificial blur, hairs are not blurred out on iPhone 15 Pro on edge where they are just in the air. This alone would be a huge upgrade by itself. So there is maybe no HW change in camera but clearly on SW side of things there is a change. Perhaps because of new 16 core neural engine? More performant CPU+GPU+NE means they can use more processing intensive algorithms to get better results. Would be great if true.
sigh - another one of those threads where someone deep down wants to upgrade, but can't bring themselves to do it, hence has to create a thread to justify themselves to the entire forum.
My 15 pro doesnt get any warmer than my 14 Pro. The camera IS better,i can see it clearly. The 24mp pics are crisp and not as much sharpening as the 14 Pro.
The battery(for my use case) is slightly better than my 14 Pro. The phon is smooth,but so was my 14 Pro after updating to ios 17.
I do believe Apple will finetune the phone and the processor through updates,and yes some might have duds and speak generally.
The battery(for my use case) is slightly better than my 14 Pro. The phon is smooth,but so was my 14 Pro after updating to ios 17.
I do believe Apple will finetune the phone and the processor through updates,and yes some might have duds and speak generally.
iP15PM sensor measures 1/1.14 inches, which is slightly bigger than the 1/1.28 of the iP14PM. The 48 MP resolution is not the sensor size. My Pentax ist*DS has a 23.5 x 15.7 mm CCD sensor and is only 6.1 MP. They increased the physical size of the sensor which allows for better low light capture, which the Shayne Mostyn video demonstrated.
I guess your source is your dream, never heard of 15PM sensor is 1/1.14, that was rumour not real.
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And your source is...? The 15PM uses the Sony IMX903 sensor. Not finding what sensor the 14PM used easily and DXO hasn't posted test results for the 15PM yet to compare it to the 14PM but they couldn't legally say the sensor was bigger if it wasn't. That's immediate class action lawsuit territory for false advertising.
EDIT: I was hoping iFixIt would measure the sensors but he did not. He just eyeballed them and said they were similar in size. Which you probably wouldn't be able to tell at that size without it being a significant change like from the 13 to the 14.
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Dude chill - if you don't want it then that's completely your choice. I'm not sure what you want to accomplish with this thread. Others will choose to purchase it regardless - it's all up to them. Your decision and reasons for rejection are respected - no-one is arguing with you and forcing you to purchase.
I agree for the most part, although a lot of what people are calling “issues” are not issues at all and are just personal preference and or expected behavior.
The A17Pro chip for example, a lot of people got it in their heads that going from 5 nm to 3 NM meant the battery was automatically going to double in lifespan and the phone was magically Going to run cool at all times without a single hiccup, when that was absolutely not promised.
I watched the Apple event, I listen to exactly what they said, and I read the text specifications on their website.
CPU Performance? Around a 10% increase. And so far from benchmarks, it’s either met or exceeded that.
GPU performance? Around a 20% increase, and again it’s met that.
Battery life? About the same as the iPhone 14 Pro. Which is exactly what Apple said it would be.
I think the biggest issue I’ve seen around this launch is that people need to get their expectations and check, and actually start listening to the facts that were literally provided on the website.
It’s okay to be disappointed that there wasn’t a major efficiency increase, but absolutely nowhere was it said officially that there would be.
Apple isn’t gonna lie with risk of not just consumer class action law suits but also investor lawsuits and SEC breathing down their necks for misleading investors.
I'm due to upgrade (13 PM),went to Apple store to see the new iPhone today,I was leaning more towards the regular Pro this time because even after nearly 2 years,I never got used to the bulk of 13 Pro Max.
1-the new 15 Pro Max is definitely smaller and more compact than the 13 Pro Max.
2-they are NOTICEABLY lighter ,and this makes handling them much easier BUT they also feel a lot less substantial and have that "cheaper" feeling.like a standard iPhone does.
3-almost all 15 Pro / 15 Pro Max phones in Apple store were already badly scratched! (rear and side) never seen this on 13P/14P series.
this is a real concern imo.you can't just dismiss the OP and others because they have build quality concerns.it is real.
still I will most likely buy one,( deciding between 15P/15 PM) BUT I'm also thinking about maybe buying a 14 Pro,and wait for the 16 Pro.
1-the new 15 Pro Max is definitely smaller and more compact than the 13 Pro Max.
2-they are NOTICEABLY lighter ,and this makes handling them much easier BUT they also feel a lot less substantial and have that "cheaper" feeling.like a standard iPhone does.
3-almost all 15 Pro / 15 Pro Max phones in Apple store were already badly scratched! (rear and side) never seen this on 13P/14P series.
this is a real concern imo.you can't just dismiss the OP and others because they have build quality concerns.it is real.
still I will most likely buy one,( deciding between 15P/15 PM) BUT I'm also thinking about maybe buying a 14 Pro,and wait for the 16 Pro.
I saw it after I posted because it was a separate comment. They said it's the same but they didn't name the sensors. So that's not much of a source. If the sensors are the same, they will have the same name.