I have insomnia. How would sleep tracking help me? [MERGED]

[The Cockney Rebel]

I’ve decided to turn off sleep tracking.

I’m going to give my wrist a rest, when I’m sleeping.

I may go back to it, but for now, it’s not really telling me anything new.

I hope your schedule suits you.

 

[goldmac2006]

I’ve decided to turn off sleep tracking.

I’m going to give my wrist a rest, when I’m sleeping.

I may go back to it, but for now, it’s not really telling me anything new.

I hope your schedule suits you.

Still going to sleep track

😂 too much catching up on all that homework due to being without my laptop due to a replacement I had to wait earlier in the month and a friend dropping out of my physics class at the last minute gave me too much work that I had to stay up

Gotta get to bed earlier as another NASA internship is starting next Tuesday, especially finals week !

 

[richard13]

I’ve decided to turn off sleep tracking.

I’m going to give my wrist a rest, when I’m sleeping.

I may go back to it, but for now, it’s not really telling me anything new.

I hope your schedule suits you.

Me too. I stopped accidentally and then I started feeling like I just don't want my watch on while trying to get to sleep. I'm sure I'll go back to it eventually. 😉

 

[AL2TEACH]

How would sleep tracking help me?

I did a quick read and might've missed a lot of stuff but if possible why not try going to a sleep lab.
again just did a quick look so no rock throwing if it was already mentioned

 

[goldmac2006]

I did a quick read and might've missed a lot of stuff but if possible why not try going to a sleep lab.
again just did a quick look so no rock throwing if it was already mentioned

If you want a more accurate picture of your sleep go for it. You have to bring your stuff for the overnight sleep test btw and you have to get bunches of wires and sensors hooked up on you.

Anyways it seems like the OP’s out of the picture now

 

[cjsuk]

Interesting thread.

I've noticed a positive correlation between behaviours I don't want and the watch amplifying them. Obsessively tracking activity seems to detract from the activity for example.

Also as I'm getting older I have to get up and pee at least once in the middle of the night. So this shows up as a BIG SCARY RED awake. Rather than stumble sleepily into the bathroom with little sense of aim and pee up the towels like before, I sit and collapse on the toilet pretending to be asleep and hope the watch doesn't notice my attempt at human pinball. The towels appreciate it but I do not.

Might get rid of the nagging wrist gremlin.

My recent bout of insomnia was solved by cutting all alcohol out of my diet.

 

[goldmac2006]

Interesting thread.

I've noticed a positive correlation between behaviours I don't want and the watch amplifying them. Obsessively tracking activity seems to detract from the activity for example.

Also as I'm getting older I have to get up and pee at least once in the middle of the night. So this shows up as a BIG SCARY RED awake. Rather than stumble sleepily into the bathroom with little sense of aim and pee up the towels like before, I sit and collapse on the toilet pretending to be asleep and hope the watch doesn't notice my attempt at human pinball. The towels appreciate it but I do not.

Might get rid of the nagging wrist gremlin.

My recent bout of insomnia was solved by cutting all alcohol out of my diet.

Another reason why you didn’t wear the S10 as much besides lots of travelling, right?

 

[AL2TEACH]

If you want a more accurate picture of your sleep go for it. You have to bring your stuff for the overnight sleep test btw and you have to get bunches of wires and sensors hooked up on you.

Anyways it seems like the OP’s out of the picture now

I worked on a trauma floor in the hospital and I would go chat with the staff in the sleep lab for lunch sometimes because it was around the bend and I knew them. Patients had their sleep clothes and yep, a lot of wires lol. Nothing was troublesome.
wow, the OP fell asleep lol.

 

[AL2TEACH]

Obsessively tracking activity seems to detract from the activity for example.

I don't get the sleep app thing. It's interesting though.

 

[goldmac2006]

I worked on a trauma floor in the hospital and I would go chat with the staff in the sleep lab for lunch sometimes because it was around the bend and I knew them. Patients had their sleep clothes and yep, a lot of wires lol. Nothing was troublesome.
wow, the OP fell asleep lol.

He hasn’t been on MR since like almost 2 weeks ago.

Agreeable lots of wires. And in sleep labs they would analyse everything beyond an Apple Watch would like brain activity, eye movements and also they hook cameras in the testing rooms

If it’s an inpatient test yep you just show up in whatever comfy clothes you have and spend a night in there

 

[groove-agent]

I hardly get any sleep.

Maybe a couple of hours, with medication, if I’m lucky.

How would sleep tracking help me?

Also, does it auto recognise sleep, now, and record that?

Thanks in advance.

Apple Watch sleep tracking won't help much. I'm sure you're already aware of how poorly you're sleeping.

I have a Garmin watch and it tracks the amount of stress you have and compares it against your exercise, then typically will explain you in layperson's terms how this could affect your sleep. However this will mildly help you IMO.

I think the better thing is to see a counsellor, psychologist, psychiatrist (in that order) to figure out why you can't sleep. Otherwise you're throwing a thimble of water on a dumpster fire trying to loosely track the results rather than the causes.

I used to have some insomnia. If you use caffeine to get through the day, that's likely the problem. Diet could be a contributing factor, also stress. You should get regular exercise, hopefully outside in the fresh air where you can get some good oxygen. Also, avoid doom scrolling on social media. This list goes on.

I hope you find some help. I've been there, and it can be rough.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

Look at how better my sleep is, now that I’m taking my medication again.

 

[groove-agent]

Look at how better my sleep is, now that I’m taking my medication again.

What medication are you taking?

Also, have you thought about seeing a counsellor or psychologist instead of a doctor? A doctor can put a bandaid on the situation, but is by no means an expert on psychological causes.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

What medication are you taking?

Also, have you thought about seeing a counsellor or psychologist instead of a doctor? A doctor can put a bandaid on the situation, but is by no means an expert on psychological causes.

Zopiclone
Lorazepam
Mirtazapine
Olanzapine
Venlafaxine
Promethazine

I am due to start counselling (Metallisation) once I’m fully healed.

Thanks for the kind words.

 

[groove-agent]

Zopiclone
Lorazepam
Mirtazapine
Olanzapine
Venlafaxine
Promethazine

I am due to start counselling (Metallisation) once I’m fully healed.

Thanks for the kind words.

That is a lot of drugs.

I took zopiclone, I called it the “zombie drug” as I would black out after taking it. If I recall, it’s habit forming and after taking it for a week or so I couldn’t sleep without it. I don’t think it’s good to take it long-term.

Good luck with the counselling. Remember that seeking counselling isn’t admitting that there’s a problem, it’s admitting there is a solution. I see councillors too for various things as it’s very helpful to get an outside opinion on your self care.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

That is a lot of drugs.

I took zopiclone, I called it the “zombie drug” as I would black out after taking it. If I recall, it’s habit forming and after taking it for a week or so I couldn’t sleep without it. I don’t think it’s good to take it long-term.

Good luck with the counselling. Remember that seeking counselling isn’t admitting that there’s a problem, it’s admitting there is a solution. I see councillors too for various things as it’s very helpful to get an outside opinion on your self care.

Thank you, mate.

 

[groove-agent]

Thank you, mate.

Since the start of this conversation ironically I’ve developed a sleeping problem but my problem is staying asleep. I keep walking up between 4-4:30 am and can’t fall asleep until around 8-9 am. I take melatonin but it still won’t keep me asleep. I think if you take melatonin your brain stops producing it naturally - at least that’s my theory. So my point is, you’re not alone!

 

[richard13]

Zopiclone
Lorazepam
Mirtazapine
Olanzapine
Venlafaxine
Promethazine

I am due to start counselling (Metallisation) once I’m fully healed.

Thanks for the kind words.

I've been prescribed Zolpidem (similar to Zopiclone) and Lorazepam for insomnia and anxiety. But the doctors won't prescribe them to me anymore (likely due to people who abuse or sell them, not me of course). So I have been forced into alternative medicines. But seems to be working ok for me.

I'm glad you decided to go back on your meds in spite of their side effects. Maybe you can get replacements that don't have those?

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

I've been prescribed Zolpidem (similar to Zopiclone) and Lorazepam for insomnia and anxiety. But the doctors won't prescribe them to me anymore (likely due to people who abuse or sell them, not me of course). So I have been forced into alternative medicines. But seems to be working ok for me.

I'm glad you decided to go back on your meds in spite of their side effects. Maybe you can get replacements that don't have those?

Well I’ve been jinxed.

They’ve stopped my zopiclone and lorazepam!

 

[goldmac2006]

Good luck with the counselling. Remember that seeking counselling isn’t admitting that there’s a problem, it’s admitting there is a solution. I see councillors too for various things as it’s very helpful to get an outside opinion on your self care.

Hey everyone, I’m feeling a bit better too. I’ve been using counseling to get advice when I’ve had issues at work. For instance, after so many colleagues left my job, even in a remote position, I had a lot of work assigned to me because of all these employees leaving. It was really stressful to take on duties from 2-3 people who left the company.

Since I don’t take summer classes anymore and I’m working a summer internship that’s fully remote (I work 6-15 hours a week), my sleep tracking has improved a lot compared to last summer when I stayed up late after watching my favourite show (AGT) in the evenings and working on practice drawings from my AutoCAD online class last year. Here’s my sleep tracking from last night:

And just to let you know, I’m not taking any medication at all. But I’m a neurodivergent person.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

Hey everyone, I’m feeling a bit better too. I’ve been using counseling to get advice when I’ve had issues at work. For instance, after so many colleagues left my job, even in a remote position, I had a lot of work assigned to me because of all these employees leaving. It was really stressful to take on duties from 2-3 people who left the company.

Since I don’t take summer classes anymore and I’m working a summer internship that’s fully remote (I work 6-15 hours a week), my sleep tracking has improved a lot compared to last summer when I stayed up late after watching my favourite show (AGT) in the evenings and working on practice drawings from my AutoCAD online class last year. Here’s my sleep tracking from last night:
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And just to let you know, I’m not taking any medication at all. But I’m a neurodivergent person.

I’m pleased for you, my friend.

I just went mad at my prescription clerk, and told her not to send me any more medication, if they don’t re-prescribe my zopiclone and lorazepam.

Now you watch me get unwell again 😡!

 

[goldmac2006]

I’m pleased for you, my friend.

I just went mad at my prescription clerk, and told her not to send me any more medication, if they don’t re-prescribe my zopiclone and lorazepam.

Now you watch me get unwell again 😡!

Dang the chemists are getting so mad about not stopping the refills right?

 

[richard13]

Hey everyone, I’m feeling a bit better too. I’ve been using counseling to get advice when I’ve had issues at work. For instance, after so many colleagues left my job, even in a remote position, I had a lot of work assigned to me because of all these employees leaving. It was really stressful to take on duties from 2-3 people who left the company.

Since I don’t take summer classes anymore and I’m working a summer internship that’s fully remote (I work 6-15 hours a week), my sleep tracking has improved a lot compared to last summer when I stayed up late after watching my favourite show (AGT) in the evenings and working on practice drawings from my AutoCAD online class last year. Here’s my sleep tracking from last night:
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And just to let you know, I’m not taking any medication at all. But I’m a neurodivergent person.

Glad to hear you are feeling better.

I've been there before... many times. It's an opportunity to find out and show what you are made of, and to potentially impress management. Do a great job, but not so great that it looks like you can easily handle it all, otherwise it will likely be a permanent thing.

 

[Momof2.1107]

Zopiclone
Lorazepam
Mirtazapine
Olanzapine
Venlafaxine
Promethazine

I am due to start counselling (Metallisation) once I’m fully healed.

Thanks for the kind words.

I’m taking Quetiapine and Lamotrigine together, and I have to say they both have me asleep within 20 minutes. Although I hate the groggy feeling they give me within the 20 minutes of taking them.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

I’m taking Quetiapine and Lamotrigine together, and I have to say they both have me asleep within 20 minutes. Although I hate the groggy feeling they give me within the 20 minutes of taking them.

That used to be the same for me, but I’ve been taking them for so long that my body has become used to them.

It’s 5:30AM & I’m wide awake.

Wishing you well.