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terraphantm

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I said, microwaves denaturates your food and can harm your health in the long run...

Long exposure to wifi and sticking the cellphone in your ear while talking will probably affect your brain. Do a test, connect 2 or 3 2W wifi adapters to your computer and sit around, you'll probably feel daisy after a while...

Cell phone big repeaters antennas can do more harm. Cancer cases have been correlated with people living in a building that has those antennas on its roof...

2W wifi adapters don't exist. And I've got at least 15 wifi devices in my house. Several of them are in my room as I sleep. My brain is fine. Any headache you get is strictly placebo.

Those buildings with those huge antennae or another story. Those towers can emit several thousand watts. Very different from a 50-100mW source (or even a 2W source for that matter)

And you haven't addressed why "denaturing" food is such a bad thing. Denaturation is a part of cooking.
 

Aidic

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Ladies and gentlemen, because he claims he is a "Nuclear Engineer", we must trust him blindly without any proofs . There are a number of ********s in this forum...

Human being knows such a little about all phenomenon occurring in this universe, especially in quantum physics... There are such many things science can't explain...

I've put forth just as much proof that I am Nuclear Engineer that you have for your crackpot ideas. You are correct that there are many things we cannot fully explain in the universe, however electromagnetism is fairly well understood at this point.

Read for instance this article. There so many scientific based researches that studied the impact of denaturating foods, such as industrial foods , white refined sugar,...etc on health. The flame is the best natural energy for cooking, didn't your granma teach you that?. The food you eat everyday can either heal you or kill you slowly... but the you know, the pharmaceutical companies prefer to sell drugs...

What is food? Food is comprised of atoms that form molecules. When you cook food, you change the chemical structure of the food. Whether done with electrical resistance, open flame, or microwaves it does the same thing, just through different ways and with varying degrees of success.

How did you infer it? Again, you are just guessing... As a nuclear engineer, your analysis really lacks of rigour...

Your use of the word "denaturating" seems to imply that you believe that modifying items found in nature is inherently unhealthy to consume. Cooking is one way of modifying items found in nature.


And as for the scrolling issues, I did not say they arent there, I just I can't see them in Chrome. If scrolling is a huge issue for someone, well there are ways around it. Personally, I'm loving my rMBP.


Also, sofianito, anyone can put up scientific sounding reports on the internet. If you really want to find it, someone somewhere has written it and put it on the internet. Just to set everyone else clear: You will not receive any radiation dose from your microwave, wifi router, cell phone, or anything else that emits only electromagnetic energy. If you think you will, move to Santa Fe, NM, because there are a lot of people there who will believe right along with you.
 

terraphantm

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Are you sure? :). Check this out: Alfa AWUS036NH


Read this for instance, and this?

There are many scientific publications... do a search...

That adapter is not legal in the US then. The maximum allowed by the FCC is 1 watt. Most are significantly lower for battery reasons.

And do you even know what denaturation is? As I explained in my other post - denaturation is a part of cooking. Heat denatures. Salt denatures. Your stomach acid denatures just about everything it comes into contact with. Your small intestine finishes the job. Cell death itself causes quite a few proteins to denature too.

As far as other nutrients - you're not going to be denaturing the carbohydrates beyond perhaps breaking polymers into smaller pieces - which we do anyway as a part of digestion. Lipids are so ridiculously stable that they're almost definitely not going to be denatured to any degree. And even with proteins - at the most you'll see a folding conformation change.

Every one of those so-called studies likely had some kind of confounding factor.

Neither of your articles are from scientists. They don't seem to understand the (very old) articles that they're citing. And most of the statements aren't even cited. They're about as useful for scientific discussion as the fecal matter on my toilet paper.
 
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sofianito

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That adapter is not legal in the US then. The maximum allowed by the FCC is 1 watt. Most are significantly lower for battery reasons.
Why don't you think and search before spewing craps... The adapter is available Amazon.com...

And do you even know what denaturation is?
I am talking about artificial or unnatural process of denaturation. Example:
Brown rice vs white rice.
Natural sugar found in cereals or fruits vs white refined sugar.
All industrial foods contain chimical agents, like the famous Exxx...

All the degenerative deseases appeared since the human being disconnected from the nature.

They're about as useful for scientific discussion as the fecal matter on my toilet paper.
You could have saved us the details... Don't you feel embarassed?!
 

terraphantm

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Jun 27, 2009
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I am talking about artificial or unnatural process of denaturation. Example:
Brown rice vs white rice.
Natural sugar found in cereals or fruits vs white refined sugar.
All industrial foods contain chimical agents, like the famous Exxx...

All the degenerative deseases appeared since the human being disconnected from the nature.


You could have saved us the details... Don't you feel embarassed?!

That is such a load of crap. More degenerative disease have appeared because we're able to treat them well enough that people don't just die of "unknown" causes as much as they used to. Vast majority of those diseases are due to natural genetic mutation and have existed for ages. They just weren't well documented.

Those foods may not be healthy, but it's not because you "denature" them. There are plenty of unhealthy items found in nature too. (And for the most part, refined sugars and fruit sugars will give you the same problems if eaten in the same quantities.)

There may be certain preservatives and other chemicals that may lead to cancers later in life. And that's got nothing to do with microwaves. A microwave will not somehow make the food cause disease. It may not taste as good, but the nutritional content (or lack thereof) will not change. Cooking by fire will denature to the same extent (or more since the temperatures actually get higher)

Please go read a 6th grade biology book before commenting on anything. Even that will profoundly expand your knowledge base. You really don't know enough to make any conclusions, let alone tell us what is and isn't healthy.



And again, FCC states the maximum is 1W. I was not aware companies are selling illegal adaptors here in the US. I would not be surprised if the US drivers/firmware limit the maximum output (just like our macbooks disable certain frequencies depending on which region they detect they're in)
 

AZREOSpecialist

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This isn't a court, not taking the time to prove it doesn't mean it's not there. If you can't see it, that's your inability to see the obvious.

Or you're seeing things. Both equally possible.

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Oh what the hell.. I'll honor you [ barf ] with this proof...

This doesn't look real to me, especially the terrible white-out job around the apple logo in the upper left corner. Just saying!
 

sofianito

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A microwave will not somehow make the food cause disease. It may not taste as good, but the nutritional content (or lack thereof) will not change.

Please go read a 6th grade biology book before commenting on anything. Even that will profoundly expand your knowledge base. You really don't know enough to make any conclusions, let alone tell us what is and isn't healthy.
Indeed, I don't know enough and nobody in this world knows enough... Your ego is just a toad that never stops swallowing air...

Read the history of microwave ovens and their effects on human body backed by scientific researches.



And again, FCC states the maximum is 1W. I was not aware companies are selling illegal adaptors here in the US. I would not be surprised if the US drivers/firmware limit the maximum output (just like our macbooks disable certain frequencies depending on which region they detect they're in)
Yes, go ahead and sue Amazon and other american companies who sell it. FYI, Alfa is a renowned Taiwanese company who manufacture some of the best wifi adapters out there. Meanwhile, you probably know it since you have at least 15 wifi adapters at home :rolleyes:, you can change the max transmission power on Linux with a simple command like: iw reg set <Country Code>
 
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fiveainone

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Or you're seeing things. Both equally possible.

I'm a Graphic designer, Photographer, and ex-heavy pc gamer(I know what choppy/dropped frames look like). Yeah, I can see a lot better than most people. It could be possible my machine/settings differ from yours, and there might be some variance.
 

M5RahuL

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Or you're seeing things. Both equally possible.

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This doesn't look real to me, especially the terrible white-out job around the apple logo in the upper left corner. Just saying!

Well I edited that info. Not going to post a receipt with the store info for obvious reasons.

If you doubt it, I don't care :)
 
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