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I know I'm late to this but iOS 5/6 was way faster and easy to use than 7

Tyler23 said:
I never said the icon was the same size. The area you can swipe, however, is. Obviously they're moving towards a more minimalistic style, the smaller icon goes along with that. People get used to change.
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My mistake, and yes it appears you are right. Although it still seems like a poor design choice as before you had to grab the icon to swipe and so people are used to that and the smaller icon is considerably more difficult to grab.

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C DM said:
Bingo, the icon is smaller, but that doesn't really matter as far as actual usability given that the whole notification itself can be and is used to slide over, and that whole notification isn't really smaller (and actually can seem a bit larger even).

I believe pre iOS 7 you actually had to slide the icon itself over, which was actually somewhat harder to do despite the icon being somewhat larger, now you can pretty much use any part of the much larger notification itself to slide it over, meaning it's that much easier compared to before.
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Thanks, this helps. See my reply above as well.
 
mKTank said:
As it stands, it's easier to swipe on lock screen notifications with iOS 7.

iOS 7 has many shortcomings vs iOS 6, but this isn't one of them. Move on.
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Yes it is easier to swipe as I stated above but still a poor design choice as before you had to grab the icon to swipe and so people are used to that and the smaller icon is considerably more difficult to grab. Unnecessary period of adjustment for something that should be simple.

What do you think are the shortcomings of iOS 7 compared to 6?
 
TH55 said:
Yes it is easier to swipe as I stated above but still a poor design choice as before you had to grab the icon to swipe and so people are used to that and the smaller icon is considerably more difficult to grab. Unnecessary period of adjustment for something that should be simple.

What do you think are the shortcomings of iOS 7 compared to 6?
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Its an adjustment to something better/simpler so it's certainly not a bad thing. You used to be able to slide only a little slider on the lock screen to unlock it but now almost any part of the lock screen can be used to do that--it's a very similar adjustment and most people like it the new way and find out how to do it really quickly. (Not to mention that more than likely a good majority of typical iOS users didn't even know about or ever really bothered sliding the icon over anyway to begin with.)
 
TH55 said:
Yes it is easier to swipe as I stated above but still a poor design choice as before you had to grab the icon to swipe and so people are used to that and the smaller icon is considerably more difficult to grab. Unnecessary period of adjustment for something that should be simple.

What do you think are the shortcomings of iOS 7 compared to 6?
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Terrible, slow animations that impede workflow.
A blinding, disgusting overuse of white and overly opaque blur that makes everything look grey anyway.
Loss of familiarity with the complete removal of buttons. Thin text on a white background is an eyesore and is far less familiar to the user than skeuomorphic elements.
Pretty buggy, even for being in its infancy. You can just feel like they replaced 6 years of engineering with amateur hour programming.

I could go on and on but the point is that iOS 7 is based on fundamentally flawed design and doesn't even have the engineering nor stability to make up for it. Instead we're left with an inconsistent UI, disgusting design choices, attention whore animations that make you wait before you can interact, bundled ontop of the buggiest release of iOS that has ever existed. I don't really like Android but iOS 7 does a good job in making me question the greenness of the grass, and not to mention is probably solely responsible for Apple's dip in customer satisfaction surveys lately.

You wanted some examples of shortcomings, and there they are. I just hate iOS 7. Mind you, the bugginess has been improved a lot since 7.1 but it's still terrible in almost every way compared to iOS 6.
 
TH55 said:
Anyone else agree? The animations are aesthetically pleasing but slow the phone down significantly, specifically opening and closing apps and navigating Safari. It's laggy and choppy/strobey like older droids.

Another thing is does anyone notice it's a lot less responsive? The keyboard, clicking "buttons" and links. I find myself hitting things multiple times to get a response.
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iOS 7.1 (when it eventually comes out). That's all I am saying :)
 
C DM said:
Its an adjustment to something better/simpler so it's certainly not a bad thing. You used to be able to slide only a little slider on the lock screen to unlock it but now almost any part of the lock screen can be used to do that--it's a very similar adjustment and most people like it the new way and find out how to do it really quickly. (Not to mention that more than likely a good majority of typical iOS users didn't even know about or ever really bothered sliding the icon over anyway to begin with.)
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Yeah I agree that it is a positive improvement and I welcome that change, I just feel like Apple overlooks things, however small, unnecessarily.
 
TH55 said:
Yeah I agree that it is a positive improvement and I welcome that change, I just feel like Apple overlooks things, however small, unnecessarily.
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Doesn't seem like that's the case in this particular case, in fact it seems that Apple paid more attention to it all and improved things to make it easier for people to use notifications from the lock screen.
 
C DM said:
Doesn't seem like that's the case in this particular case, in fact it seems that Apple paid more attention to it all and improved things to make it easier for people to use notifications from the lock screen.
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That's all fine but you keep ignoring my point, dozens of simple oversights that could have easily been avoided exist, like the icon size.
 
TH55 said:
That's all fine but you keep ignoring my point, dozens of simple oversights that could have easily been avoided exist, like the icon size.
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While you keep trying to up play various things that are actually better or don't even exist. There are definitely all kinds of oversights, just as there are all kinds of improvements, although attacking various improvements or things that don't even exist or haven't really changed (also from some other similar threads) kind of undercuts a lot of the credibility unfortunately (sort of almost analogous to "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" in a sense).
 
C DM said:
While you keep trying to up play various things that are actually better or don't even exist. There are definitely all kinds of oversights, just as there are all kinds of improvements, although attacking various improvements or things that don't even exist or haven't really changed (also from some other similar threads) kind of undercuts a lot of the credibility unfortunately (sort of almost analogous to "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" in a sense).
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He IS the boy who cried wolf.
 
C DM said:
While you keep trying to up play various things that are actually better or don't even exist. There are definitely all kinds of oversights, just as there are all kinds of improvements, although attacking various improvements or things that don't even exist or haven't really changed (also from some other similar threads) kind of undercuts a lot of the credibility unfortunately (sort of almost analogous to "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" in a sense).
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Sorry, I'll try to be more selective with my posts
 
iOS7 looks more modern but iOS6 plain performs better in almost every respect. How anyone can say otherwise is beyond me.
It is a step backwards in just about every department and Apple were idiots to release it in this state. Quite why it's STILL in this state six months after release is a disgrace and has put me off the company a great deal to be honest.
 
Count Blah said:
Much prefer the speed and stability of iOS 6.
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I do too, yet I also believe Apples capable of improving iOS 7.x. It's just that no one holds them accountable.

They know they can sell anything buggy no matter what. It's a brand loyalty issue they rely on.
 
sixrom said:
I do too, yet I also believe Apples capable of improving iOS 7.x. It's just that no one holds them accountable.

They know they can sell anything buggy no matter what. It's a brand loyalty issue they rely on.
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I'm trying to tell the same thing to the iPad forum, and the defense of apple is - if there were really a problem, millions would be returning the iPad.

SMH.
 
7.1 will fix this problem, but if you can't wait, just jailbreak and fix it.

People forget that iOS 8 preview is in roughy 3 months. They've been working on 7.1 for so long that many forget that 8 was coming.
 
mKTank said:
I don't really like Android but iOS 7 does a good job in making me question the greenness of the grass, and not to mention is probably solely responsible for Apple's dip in customer satisfaction surveys lately.
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Funny isn't it, iOS 7 has me looking at android and thinking hmm that looks good. Never did with iOS 6. Its like the magic is missing. All that attention to detail on buttons replaced with words, coloured words :(
 
Zxxv said:
Funny isn't it, iOS 7 has me looking at android and thinking hmm that looks good. Never did with iOS 6. Its like the magic is missing. All that attention to detail on buttons replaced with words, coloured words :(
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I used to be more concerned about the response time of Android touch screens, with reports praising Apple for having slightly faster touch response on the screens (10-20 ms). Now, the animations take forever, and even when they appear settled, there's still at least another 500 ms delay before it starts responding (making the whole process around 1500-2000 ms).

10-20 ms doesn't sound so bad, now. ;) (and they've probably improved since)
 
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