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There are way too many Apple sheep who defend bugs, ignore faults, accept delays and basically drool over anything that comes from the company.
I loved the iPhone 4 and I loved iOS5/6.
I'm pretty much hating the iPhone5 and iOS7, so unless Apple sort this out pretty darned soon I will be jumping ship when my next contract is due. I really don't like what iOS7 did to my iPhone5 and the wall of silence coming from Apple's direction for SIX long months.
 
Millions don't know any better LOL :eek:

Yes. There were millions upon millions of android 2.3 tables sold(and still being sold), and people put up with the horrible experience. I suppose that in your world, every one should have been returned, but they were not. People put up with inferior products, how else do you explain the US political system?
 
Yes. There were millions upon millions of android 2.3 tables sold(and still being sold), and people put up with the horrible experience. I suppose that in your world, every one should have been returned, but they were not. People put up with inferior products, how else do you explain the US political system?

I suspect those tablets were dirt cheap and bought by people who either didn't know any better or couldn't afford/justify any more money. Not nearly as acceptable from the premium range.

A 4S or 5 navigates the OS more quickly and responsively (including keyboard) than a brand new 5S on 7. I think that says a lot, personally.

And yes, people do put up with inferior products. It's more tragic when the products are "premium" (VW comes to mind).
 
There are way too many Apple sheep who defend bugs, ignore faults, accept delays and basically drool over anything that comes from the company.
I loved the iPhone 4 and I loved iOS5/6.
I'm pretty much hating the iPhone5 and iOS7, so unless Apple sort this out pretty darned soon I will be jumping ship when my next contract is due. I really don't like what iOS7 did to my iPhone5 and the wall of silence coming from Apple's direction for SIX long months.

Amen
 
There are way too many Apple sheep who defend bugs, ignore faults, accept delays and basically drool over anything that comes from the company.
I loved the iPhone 4 and I loved iOS5/6.
I'm pretty much hating the iPhone5 and iOS7, so unless Apple sort this out pretty darned soon I will be jumping ship when my next contract is due. I really don't like what iOS7 did to my iPhone5 and the wall of silence coming from Apple's direction for SIX long months.

I refuse to take anything you said seriously after reading the word sheep!
And please don't let the door hit you! People like you deserve no respect!
 
I refuse to take anything you said seriously after reading the word sheep!
And please don't let the door hit you! People like you deserve no respect!


Absolutely that.

It's about time a few people grew up and accepted the fact that just because something isn't to their personal taste, doesn't mean you have to be a "sheep" to like it.

And I've said it many times but once more for the record - IOS 7 behaves impeccably for me and if anything is LESS buggy than IOS 6 in some regards. And I'm not even on 7.1 yet.
 
anyone who says that ios7 is not laggy or choppy more than it should are liars. it is laggy and choppy from time to time. especially when you are accesing general search feature by pulling down on the screen. my chrome app is choppy as hell and even generic apps crash more than pre ios7.

there is a huge delay on ios7 when switching apps!
why would apple make something slower? i dont get it.

What hardware? iOS in general has issues switch apps as it doesn't have much RAM and programs are quickly killed when they're in the background, but I haven't noticed any particular problem with iOS 7 versus 6 on my iPad 2 or iPhone 5s in terms of performance. (Some other issues, particularly with podcasts, but performance is fine for me.)
 
What device?

Try iOS 7.1 that was just released.

Have you noticed iOS 7 Safari no longer holds your spot on a web page, but now refreshes every time you exit the app even for a few seconds? Is this a RAM thing that doesn't happen w the 5 or just another terribly inferior change?
 
Have you noticed iOS 7 Safari no longer holds your spot on a web page, but now refreshes every time you exit the app even for a few seconds? Is this a RAM thing that doesn't happen w the 5 or just another terribly inferior change?

Yeah, I commented on this in another thread somewhere but others said they didn't experience it. It has happened to me from 7.0 through 7.1 inclusive.
 
Have you noticed iOS 7 Safari no longer holds your spot on a web page, but now refreshes every time you exit the app even for a few seconds? Is this a RAM thing that doesn't happen w the 5 or just another terribly inferior change?
Seems to be fine/same for me as it was before on iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.
 
Have you noticed iOS 7 Safari no longer holds your spot on a web page, but now refreshes every time you exit the app even for a few seconds? Is this a RAM thing that doesn't happen w the 5 or just another terribly inferior change?

I just tried. Doesn't happen on my 5S.
 
Why do you all use safari? My personal experience is that it is one of the worst ios browsers. What am I missing?
 
Why do you all use safari? My personal experience is that it is one of the worst ios browsers. What am I missing?
Perhaps because it's the only one that can use the Nitro JavaScript engine speeding things up in a lot of cases, and it's also the default in iOS where most links end up taking you. What makes it bad and especially the worst exactly?
 
Perhaps because it's the only one that can use the Nitro JavaScript engine speeding things up in a lot of cases, and it's also the default in iOS where most links end up taking you. What makes it bad and especially the worst exactly?

Plus I can click on videos and play them within the browser. I have Atomic Web Pro which I use for certain sites as it has a nifty feature to con websites into thinking you're browsing on a desktop pc, so for someone with a hatred of mobile websites that's a real boon. However, it doesn't play video and is a smidgeon slower than Safari so the latter remains my main browser.
I've tried other browser apps but they're crap, and I really don't like Chrome.
 
Perhaps because it's the only one that can use the Nitro JavaScript engine speeding things up in a lot of cases, and it's also the default in iOS where most links end up taking you. What makes it bad and especially the worst exactly?

I still find it quite crashy on my 5s just looking at normal web pages, and in general find it to be far slower, less stable, and less capable -- and even less readable than either Atomic or Mercury, even after the 7.1 update.
 
I also hate how it no longer goes directly to the new message when you open it but creates an unnecessary second step to see it. I mentioned this in my autocorrect thread several weeks ago.
 
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I also hate how it no longer goes directly to the new message when you open it but creates an unnecessary second step to see it. I mentioned this in my autocorrect thread several weeks ago.
Mail doesn't seem to go to a new message directly when launching from the Mail icon (with or without a badge), so why would we expect a very similar app like Messages to do that? I know it did that, but it seems like that would actually be incorrect and a bug on some level (at least on the level of user flow/experience) that finally got corrected in iOS 7.
 
Mail doesn't seem to go to a new message directly when launching from the Mail icon (with or without a badge), so why would we expect a very similar app like Messages to do that? I know it did that, but it seems like that would actually be incorrect and a bug on some level (at least on the level of user flow/experience) that finally got corrected in iOS 7.

No, it was a brilliant implementation that absolutely made sense.
 
No, it was a brilliant implementation that absolutely made sense.
Perhaps it was convenient for some, but the way it works currently makes more sense as far as logical/proper flow. Again, that's why other apps like Mail already had it like that to begin with.
 
I still find it quite crashy on my 5s just looking at normal web pages, and in general find it to be far slower, less stable, and less capable -- and even less readable than either Atomic or Mercury, even after the 7.1 update.
You should post a picture of your crash logs. I would love to see the crashes post 7.1.
 
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