I made fun of all the hoopla surrounding Bendgate. Then my iPhone 6 Plus bent :/

[Bobo03]

(1) You cannot expect to use/carry a 5.5" iPhone 6+ the same way you used/carried your 4.0" iPhone 5.

(2) The force one's pocket exerts on a phone would not be enough to cause it to bend.

(3) There are literally millions of these things out there. How many CONFIRMED instances of bending have been reported? I know people won't believe Apple's 9, but I have yet to see any alternative number being thrown out there.

(4) I put my 6+ in my pocket, but DO take it out far more often than I did my 5S....not because I'm afraid of it bending, but because its BIG and uncomfortable. I knew this when I bought the device. I was aware that it is considerably BIGGER than any device I had previously owned. I knew my use case would change due to the change in size. I made all these decisions before buying the device. It amazes me that people don't think about their purchases more.

You are correct - people have been putting mobile devices in their pockets for quite some time. Those mobile devices also haven't had 5.5"+ displays.

Use your brain. You can't treat the device the same way. Because its not the same device. Just because something FITS in your pocket, doesn't mean that's where it should go.

I know it is hard to believe in your apple centric world, but 5.5 screens have existed for a while on other devices. Shocking.

 

[Surf Monkey]

The phone just came out. The flaw is ubiquitous - it's in every iPhone 6. It's been proven that ordinary use and ordinary treatment can cause the phone to bend. Give it time.

And this may shock you, but not every person in the world takes to the internet to air their every grievance. Fortunately, we have things like logic, which I just introduced you to, to fill in the blanks.

The statements you just made as fact? Nothing factual about any of them. But you're more than welcome to try and support them. Many have tried. All have failed so far.

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I would say "People who's phone haven't bent YET"
Phones that have not bent in a week or two of use are not phones that will never bend. Only the test of time will tell us if these phones bend more easily than they should.

Good thing you're not working from a firmly held preconception.

 

[mastercheif91]

He has a point. Your phone got bent somehow. Just saying "normal use" doesn't mean anything. There was a moment where it wasn't bent and a moment when it was. Something happened between those two moments. Asking what is not an accusation. It's a totally legitimate thing to ask. You may not know what did it, but SOMETHING did, because things don't "just bend."

There are hundreds of situations where the phone could have bent. Me sitting down with it in my pocket, me standing up with it in my pocket, using it in bed. I've had every iPhone since the 3G, none of them have had any semblance of "bending" by the time I was done with them.

 

[boltjames]

I would say "People who's phone haven't bent YET"
Phones that have not bent in a week or two of use are not phones that will never bend. Only the test of time will tell us if these phones bend more easily than they should.

Speaking for all 10,000,000 iPhone 6 owners I can say that we all know the 6 will bend more easily than the 5 as we've all gone to high school and took a little physics and geometry.

When I was a young lad my mom had me drinking out of paper cups. When I was older, she gave me a glass. I treated it more carefully because it was made of, you know, glass.

BJ

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I know it is hard to believe in your apple centric world, but 5.5 screens have existed for a while on other devices. Shocking.

Speaking for all 10,000,000 iPhone 6 owners I can say we are unaware of other 5.5" devices in the same manner that we're unaware of whether or not there are toilets in homeless shelters because we've never spent a night in a homeless shelter.

BJ

 

[Surf Monkey]

There are hundreds of situations where the phone could have bent. Me sitting down with it in my pocket, me standing up with it in my pocket, using it in bed. I've had every iPhone since the 3G, none of them have had any semblance of "bending" by the time I was done with them.

You're not grasping the reality here. It's not that any of those situations could have bent the phone. It's that one of them DID, and WHICH ONE is a critical data point. That's how we determine whether the incident can be considered "normal" or not. Without knowing exactly what happened there's no way to assess the situation. Again: that's not an accusation against you, it's just a simple matter of fact. By your own admission you don't know how it got bent so you really can't claim it was "normal use" any more than anyone else can claim it was "abuse." If you don't know no one knows.

Get it?

 

[saab9573]

I made fun of all the hoopla surrounding Bendgate. Then my iPhone 6 Plus bent :/

This is for the crew that think other phones don't bend:

Shame I'm advertising this guy but never mind:
http://youtu.be/SDIu-GcX5aM

 

[Bobo03]

Speaking for all 10,000,000 iPhone 6 owners I can say that we all know the 6 will bend more easily than the 5 as we've all gone to high school and took a little physics and geometry.

When I was a young lad my mom had me drinking out of paper cups. When I was older, she gave me a glass. I treated it more carefully because it was made of, you know, glass.

BJ

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Speaking for all 10,000,000 iPhone 6 owners I can say we are unaware of other 5.5" devices in the same manner that we're unaware of whether or not there are toilets in homeless shelters because we've never spent a night in a homeless shelter.

BJ

I feel sorry for your children.

 

[mailboxbetacoin]

Quite the opposite, actually. Only a fool would buy into the hype. Think about it. There are now well north of 10 million iPhones in circulation. How many bends would constitute a "serious problem?" In the case of "Antennagate" the instance was arguably close to 100%. Are close to 100% of sold iPhone 6 series phones bent? 50%? No? 10%? That would be over a million bent iPhones. So, 1%? Are there over 100,000 bent phones out there?

So, who's the fool here? The ones screaming about "bendgate" or the ones calling for a little calm assessment of each bend on a case by case basis?

yeah, let's do some math, but with more accurate numbers.
First, let's consider the iPhone 6+ only, as most genuine reports of bending come from this model. Usage data implies there are about 2-3 millions in use right now. Those 2.5 millions iPhone 6+ have been used about one week.

It's subjective, but I would say that the bending problem is a real issue if 5% of the phones end up bending during the first life of the phone, which is 2 years for a typical users.
So out of those 2.5 millions iPhone 6+ out there, I would say that if more than 125,000 have bent from normal use in their first two years, it's probably an issue.
Since today, those phones have been used an average of one week, I would conclude that if more than 125,000 / (2 x 52) = 1,200 phones have been bent so far, then we have a real issue.

How many phones out there are bent? it's hard to know, but I would not be surprised if more than 1,200 are.

 

[boltjames]

I feel sorry for your children.

You shouldn't; anything goes wrong with their iPhone's daddy's here to get them new ones.

Feel sorry for yourself, has to be frustrating trying to tell a group of successful technophiles that they're being stupid with their money when, in fact, that's the biggest benefit of being successful.

BJ

 

[Surf Monkey]

yeah, let's do some math, but with more accurate numbers.
First, let's consider the iphone 6+ only, as most genuine reports of bending come from this model. Usage data implies there are about 2-3 millions in use right now. Those 2.5 millions iphone 6+ have been used about one week.

It's subjective, but i would say that the bending problem is a real issue if 5% of the phones end up bending during the first life of the phone, which is 2 years for a typical users.
So out of those 2.5 millions iphone 6+ out there, i would say that if more than 125,000 have bent from normal use in their first two years, it's probably an issue.
Since today, those phones have been used an average of one week, i would conclude that if more than 125,000 / (2 x 52) = 1,200 phones have been bent so far, then we have a real issue.

How many phones out there are bent? It's hard to know, but i would not be surprised if more than 1,200 are.

fud

 

[saab9573]

yeah, let's do some math, but with more accurate numbers.

First, let's consider the iPhone 6+ only, as most genuine reports of bending come from this model. Usage data implies there are about 2-3 millions in use right now. Those 2.5 millions iPhone 6+ have been used about one week.



It's subjective, but I would say that the bending problem is a real issue if 5% of the phones end up bending during the first life of the phone, which is 2 years for a typical users.

So out of those 2.5 millions iPhone 6+ out there, I would say that if more than 125,000 have bent from normal use in their first two years, it's probably an issue.

Since today, those phones have been used an average of one week, I would conclude that if more than 125,000 / (2 x 52) = 1,200 phones have been bent so far, then we have a real issue.



How many phones out there are bent? it's hard to know, but I would not be surprised if more than 1,200 are.

WTF?

2.5M????

which planet do you live on?

 

[jrswizzle]

I know it is hard to believe in your apple centric world, but 5.5 screens have existed for a while on other devices. Shocking.

For.....3 years? And there have been.....1...2?

And guess what - you don't use those devices the same way as you would a smaller 4" device either.

I mean good lord....its common sense.

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WTF?

2.5M????

which planet do you live on?

That's probably fairly accurate....what planet do YOU live on?

 

[AppleP59]

There are hundreds of situations where the phone could have bent. Me sitting down with it in my pocket, me standing up with it in my pocket, using it in bed. I've had every iPhone since the 3G, none of them have had any semblance of "bending" by the time I was done with them.

What size pants do you wear?
Might seem like a rude question but it seems to be a lot of.. larger people's phones bending.

 

[mailboxbetacoin]

WTF?

2.5M????

which planet do you live on?

iPhone 6+, not 6
In use, not sold.

There's less than 1.5% of iPhone users using an iPhone 6+ right now https://mixpanel.com/trends/#report/iphone_6/from_date:-29,report_unit:day,to_date:0

There's no good source on the total number of iPhone users out there, but 200 millions is probably a reasonable number,

The rest is just math.

 

[HenryDJP]

I know it is hard to believe in your apple centric world, but 5.5 screens have existed for a while on other devices. Shocking.

I know it's hard for you to believe in your Apple-hating world but the Apple Newton messagepad was the first to hit the streets in the 90's as a portable consumer computer with a 5" diagonal screen. Maybe if you had been registered here long enough you'd find that out.

 

[Bobo03]

You shouldn't; anything goes wrong with their iPhone's daddy's here to get them new ones.

Feel sorry for yourself, has to be frustrating trying to tell a group of successful technophiles that they're being stupid with their money when, in fact, that's the biggest benefit of being successful.

BJ

When was I trying to convince anyone of anything? You are lost in your arguments. It's ok though.

 

[Robert1-1]

Yet another strawman...sheesh.

So it bent by magic?

 

[iapplelove]

I managed to bend my iPhone 5 apple swapped it out no problem.

I'm not worried about my plus phones will and can bend given the circumstances.

 

[Bobo03]

I know it's hard for you to believe in your Apple-hating world but the Apple Newton messagepad was the first to hit the streets in the 90's as a portable consumer computer with a 5" diagonal screen. Maybe if you had been registered here long enough you'd find that out.

Wouldnt be a member here if I hated apple. I like technology. I don't care about brand. I have used many phones and tried all of the major mobile operating systems.

 

[lyceumHQ]

(1) You cannot expect to use/carry a 5.5" iPhone 6+ the same way you used/carried your 4.0" iPhone 5.

(2) The force one's pocket exerts on a phone would not be enough to cause it to bend.

(3) There are literally millions of these things out there. How many CONFIRMED instances of bending have been reported? I know people won't believe Apple's 9, but I have yet to see any alternative number being thrown out there.

(4) I put my 6+ in my pocket, but DO take it out far more often than I did my 5S....not because I'm afraid of it bending, but because its BIG and uncomfortable. I knew this when I bought the device. I was aware that it is considerably BIGGER than any device I had previously owned. I knew my use case would change due to the change in size. I made all these decisions before buying the device. It amazes me that people don't think about their purchases more.

You are correct - people have been putting mobile devices in their pockets for quite some time. Those mobile devices also haven't had 5.5"+ displays.

Use your brain. You can't treat the device the same way. Because its not the same device. Just because something FITS in your pocket, doesn't mean that's where it should go.

1) It's a phone. I expect to be able to carry it the way I've carried every phone I've ever had. As long as it's labeled as a phone then that's what I'll expect to be able to do. It's called an iPHONE So I'll treat it as a phone.

2) Read the forums. It is and has been enough.

3) I don't know that either. But you're right. I don't believe apple and their 'nine' whatsoever at all.

4) I imagine most people expect a £700 deceive to be able to withstand being in their pocket. Why should they make special arrangements for their phones? As I said. It's a phone. Jut because you seem to revolve your life around yours doesn't mean everyone else should.

I know plenty of people who have the galaxy note range if phones. They have a late screen too. Large screen phones are not new. And whilst I realise apple will always gain a lot more scrutiny than other makers, we're this an issue with those phones. It would be common knowledge.

Use your brain. This is an issue. These phones are bending during normal every day use. Just because yours hasn't doesn't mean it's not an issue. I never had antenna issues with my iPhone 4. Didn't mean I completely dismissed it as not happening to any iPhones ever simply because I wasn't suffering it. And I didn't go around telling people they were holding their phone incorrectly did I? No. I accepted it was an issue and thought to myself 'hope apple sort it as it's crap to spend that much cash on a defective product'. Which is exactly the same as my thoughts on this issue now.

 

[Robert1-1]

Uh, there there are other 5.5" phones out there...you do know that right? And they are carried in pockets.

(1)

You are correct - people have been putting mobile devices in their pockets for quite some time. Those mobile devices also haven't had 5.5"+ displays.

Use your brain. You can't treat the device the same way. Because its not the same device. Just because something FITS in your pocket, doesn't mean that's where it should go.

 

[mzd]

They did not replace my phone.

Talked to a genius. "Apple has not indicated to us at this time that this is a manufacturing issue. You can use an AppleCare+ replacement if you want". Talked with a manager for an hour after I explained I had a reddit thread about this. "Apple has told us that it is not a problem with the phones. We need to make sure we are being consistent, especially with you're going to tell a thousand people about this. We are not replacing bent phones at this time. If something changes, I will let you know".

This was at the Walden Galleria Mall in Buffalo, NY. The manager I spoke to is A. Gregg Curtin III.

I would try another support avenue, either calling Apple Support or online. If you have the option, you could also try another Apple store.

I had an issue with my iPhone 5 screen turning pink and while the Apple store Genius acknowledged the problem, she said it was a "feature" of iOS 7 and wouldn't replace the screen.
I got home and contacted Apple support online, attached a photo showing the problem, and they sent out a replacement phone right way.

 

[HenryDJP]

What's wrong with some of you people here??? Some of you are acting ridiculous trying your damnedest to trash the iPhone 6 in regards to the bending nonsense.
You can buy a freaking $150k Ferarri (yeah yeah yeah, a car analogy so if you can't stand logic, don't read this) and someone can park right next to you in a plain jain Toyota and open their car door normally and ding your precious $150k car. Oh but you spent $150k on this tin can so why does it ding so easily? It's made of metal! Hello??? Some of you guys need to stop this nonsense.

It's so sad how this forum is consumed of this bend crap when both the 6 and the 6 Plus are such nice phones and the 6 Plus has some extra nice features. I guess the people here trying to trash the new iPhones can't really trash the actual phones because they are a solid phone and Samsung even knows that!
So if that's all y'all got is to trash the new iPhones in regards to bending you guys really need to calm it because it's gotten quite tiring and old.

And I just love some of you here that are wishing people's phones will bend just to satisfy your own warped fantasies. Just paraphrasing but here are some of my favorite lines here:
"Oh it's only a matter of time and your phone will bend. "
"Your phone hasn't bent YET...but it will"
"I can't wait until these people attacking other's phones bend, that'll show them".

Some of you guys here need to stop hating and what also hasn't stopped are the new registrations here. Sept 2014-Oct 2014. LOL. 99% of those registered are the ones doing the hating on the iPhone 6 and act as if they are being paid by Samsung to make sure to keep "bendgate" alive to help satisfy their company's own warped fantasies of seeing their competitor fry.

 

[Robert1-1]

So just curious, how exactly did you manage to bend it?

I managed to bend my iPhone 5 apple swapped it out no problem.

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I'm not worried about my plus phones will and can bend given the circumstances.

 

[macfoxpro]

they're people, they make mistakes. more and more actually... it's not just that Jobs isn't there anymore, but a lot of good people have left following Jobs death, and a lot of not as good people have joined the company.

testing a lot is one thing, but sometimes you just don't have the right test set up. also, Apple's weakness is the lack of real life testing, to preserve secrecy. With the famous iPhone 4 leak, we saw how the new iPhones were disguised in bulky cases during real life testing; let's face it, there were probably very few people walking around all day with a naked iPhone 6+ during the testing phase.

also, some people at Apple may have known, but were afraid to speak up. that happens all the time.

finally, it could have been that even the big bosses knew about this, weighed the risks, and decided to go ahead with the release anyway with a contingency plan (extremely limited supply of 6+ while working on the fix, silently implement the fix, exchange the units that fail once the fix is in place).
Deciding to delay the release of the product that makes up most of their revenue would have been a much bigger disaster than having to deal with thousands of exchanges.

I agree, all that is certainly possible. It's just hard to fathom how Apple would let something like this slip with how they micro-manage their quality and how they have always had quality builds. But, you do make some valid points of possibility. Who knows.

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Because it's not a "flaw". It's a "consequence".

Is a $6,000 Lalique crystal vase "flawed" because if some klutz knocks it to the ground it'll shatter into pieces? Is Lalique responsible for the mistake in care and lifestyle of it's owners? Do they owe someone a free vase? Or does the buyer know what he's getting into at the time of purchase?

We're not buying bricks here. These are thin, light, and delicate computers made of aluminum and glass. Just because they fit in your pocket doesn't mean they're as sturdy as keys or coins nor should anyone have that expectation. You don't slam your MacBook in a car door, you don't wedge your iPhone in your jeans.

Care for your iPhone 6's, problem solved.

BJ

I'm thinking your vase analogy is nothing short of way off. Talking about comparing Apples to Oranges. A phone should have a certain build of sturdiness. A crystal vase? Really?