I think its pretty clear what happened with the bleeding screen issue

[marmiteturkey]

I think we can at least all agree that my back light bleed seems to be the most common production issue encountered by new owners so far?

Yes, we can agree that. Which says nothing to any of your original points:
the fact that backlight bleeding is probably the 'most common' doesn't mean 60%, 99%, 2% or any other percentage of iPads suffer from it. That poll, on an obscure website with no credentials, is worse than meaningless.
nor does it refer to the non-rumour about delayed production, which no-one seems to have ever heard of before, and which is almost certainly bollocks.

 

[phpmaven]

Wasn't there rumors of a postponed launch because of the production issues? I bet they decided to release the bad batch early and just let the people that dont care keep theirs while swapping out the others. Nothing to lose really...

You're a genius Gump!

 

[Gil22]

I'm fairly new to apple products but I def noticed you guys are a lot more loyal to your company than the windows folks. If I went on a windows forum saying I think its pretty clear windows had some production issues and released some bad products everyone would agree but say its just business. I did that here and you guys seem to take it very personally and think i'm some sort of invalid. I still think apple deploys people to minimize rumors of bad products on these web sites!! "I notice a screen defect when turning my brightness up" "So don't turn your brightness up" CMON

 

[goMac]

I'm fairly new to apple products but I def noticed you guys are a lot more loyal to your company than the windows folks. If I went on a windows forum saying I think its pretty clear windows had some production issues and released some bad products everyone would agree but say its just business. I did that here and you guys seem to take it very personally and think i'm some sort of invalid. I still think apple deploys people to minimize rumors of bad products on these web sites!! "I notice a screen defect when turning my brightness up" "So don't turn your brightness up" CMON

I don't think that's true at all. Your unit is probably defective, and there are reports of some other units out there that are defective. I think the issue is that there is no evidence of a broader issue. I haven't seen any iPad 2s with this issue myself.

We're not saying the issue doesn't exist, we're saying there is no evidence of a wide scale problem. Definitely nothing that would relate it to production problems.

 

[Gil22]

I don't think that's true at all. Your unit is probably defective, and there are reports of some other units out there that are defective. I think the issue is that there is no evidence of a broader issue. I haven't seen any iPad 2s with this issue myself.

We're not saying the issue doesn't exist, we're saying there is no evidence of a wide scale problem. Definitely nothing that would relate it to production problems.

One of the biggest threads on this site is about people complaining about a light bleeding problem? I can't even find anyone complaining about anything else. Ok 60% may have been out there, may not have been as a lot of people may not have noticed or care yet but there seems to clearly be issues with people having bleeding back lights. If this isn't a production issue then what was it....damage while shipping?

 

[shen]

There is a subtle difference between "loyal" and "PITA". This is a major launch. Some small percentage of units will have minor issues. Yellow screen glue, bleed through, maybe an occasional dead unit will sneak through control...

I am "loyal" because when ever the problem is Apples, in my personal experience, they fix it. Even if the problem is mine, in many cases, they fix it. That is far above and beyond what most companies are willing to do.

Joining a rumors forum just to complain about an issue that has unknown numbers of people effected and making up numbers to create a conspiracy, that is PITA. If this is your first Apple product, and you just dropped cash on it, and it really is a bad unit, then hopefully they fix it as fast and hassle free as all my past experience, and maybe you will be loyal sometime later this year.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Gil22]

There is a subtle difference between "loyal" and "PITA". This is a major launch. Some small percentage of units will have minor issues. Yellow screen glue, bleed through, maybe an occasional dead unit will sneak through control...

I am "loyal" because when ever the problem is Apples, in my personal experience, they fix it. Even if the problem is mine, in many cases, they fix it. That is far above and beyond what most companies are willing to do.

Joining a rumors forum just to complain about an issue that has unknown numbers of people effected and making up numbers to create a conspiracy, that is PITA. If this is your first Apple product, and you just dropped cash on it, and it really is a bad unit, then hopefully they fix it as fast and hassle free as all my past experience, and maybe you will be loyal sometime later this year.

Welcome to the forum.

I didn't make that number up, I saw it on another site in a poll as someone said earlier. Its probably not 60% but I would be completely shocked if only less than 10% of these new ipads rushed to launch have these production issues that seem to be reported as fairly common so far. We'll have to see if this issue remains as more ipads get released into the wild or if it was just people being a pain in the ass. Yes its just speculation but it does look and sound like perhaps apple rushed this to launch because of the XOOMs early release. So maybe it is just more slipping through the qa process. Just speculation but this is a rumor forum. Not all rumors are baseless

 

[Stealthipad]

Wasn't there rumors of a postponed launch because of the production issues? I bet they decided to release the bad batch early and just let the people that dont care keep theirs while swapping out the others. Nothing to lose really...

I think they are using the bleeding screen issue to hide the fact that they introduced a produce without any stock just to compete with zoom and other tablets that are out now!

Typical BIG APPLE LIE!

 

[goMac]

One of the biggest threads on this site is about people complaining about a light bleeding problem? I can't even find anyone complaining about anything else. Ok 60% may have been out there, may not have been as a lot of people may not have noticed or care yet but there seems to clearly be issues with people having bleeding back lights. If this isn't a production issue then what was it....damage while shipping?

A majority of the complaints on this forum are about the backlight. Keyword: complaints.

A majority of users are not complaining about it, which is what you're implying.

 

[captainfester]

73.5% of all statistics are made up.



^^^^^ get it ^^^^^^

i just made that number up.

 

[Gil22]

A majority of the complaints on this forum are about the backlight. Keyword: complaints.

A majority of users are not complaining about it, which is what you're implying.

And to me this alone points to a common production issue.

 

[rdrr]

I didn't make that number up, I saw it on another site in a poll as someone said earlier. Its probably not 60% but I would be completely shocked if only less than 10% of these new ipads rushed to launch have these production issues that seem to be reported as fairly common so far. We'll have to see if this issue remains as more ipads get released into the wild or if it was just people being a pain in the ass. Yes its just speculation but it does look and sound like perhaps apple rushed this to launch because of the XOOMs early release. So maybe it is just more slipping through the qa process. Just speculation but this is a rumor forum. Not all rumors are baseless

How do you know it was rushed to launch? And I don't think you can gather in a few days that this a fairly common problem. You are hearing the screaming of a minority. Probably more than half of the people complaining are likely not to have a real issue, but one they perceived as one. It isn't defending apple if the only time you can see some bleeding is if you turn up the brightness to 100% and stand in the dark, while staring at an all black image.

There was a good parody song made during the atennagate that you should watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIcaejkpD

<singing>
If you don't want an iPad 2...
Don't buy it.
If you bought one and you don't like it...
Bring it back.
</singing>

 

[Gil22]

How do you know it was rushed to launch? And I don't think you can gather in a few days that this a fairly common problem. You are hearing the screaming of a minority. Probably more than half of the people complaining are likely not to have a real issue, but one they perceived as one. It isn't defending apple if the only time you can see some bleeding is if you turn up the brightness to 100% and stand in the dark, while staring at an all black image.

There was a good parody song made during the atennagate that you should watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIcaejkpD

<singing>
If you don't want an iPad 2...
Don't buy it.
If you bought one and you don't like it...
Bring it back.
</singing>

I do want an ipad 2, just not one of the defective ones mass released to the public

 

[goMac]

And to me this alone points to a common production issue.

It points to a small amount of iPads having defective screens? Yes.

Does it point to a larger issue? No.

I do want an ipad 2, just not one of the defective ones mass released to the public

Annnnnd there's the problem. There is some things pointing to this being a small issue. There is nothing pointing to this being a mass issue.

 

[budfoot]

I am "loyal" because when ever the problem is Apples, in my personal experience, they fix it.

Like they did with that whole iPhone 4 thing. Just don't hold it that way! (FIXED!)

 

[goMac]

Like they did with that whole iPhone 4 thing. Just don't hold it that way! (FIXED!)

And the free bumpers?

 

[Gil22]

It points to a small amount of iPads having defective screens? Yes.

Does it point to a larger issue? No.



Annnnnd there's the problem. There is some things pointing to this being a small issue. There is nothing pointing to this being a mass issue.

A small issue wouldn't have people exchanging theirs only to get one that has the same problem. The odds of that happening multiple times if this was a small percentage problem are astronomical.

 

[goMac]

A small issue wouldn't have people exchanging theirs only to get one that has the same problem. The odds of that happening multiple times if this was a small percentage problem are astronomical.

Unless they were all in the same production week/line. Then you'd just be exchanging your iPad for one in the same batch.

Problems like this are usually localized to a certain production line or a certain batch of parts. From there it could be localized to certain shipments to certain Apple Stores.

A lot of iPads don't even use the same brands of parts.

 

[ea9]

Wasn't there rumors of a postponed launch because of the production issues? I bet they decided to release the bad batch early and just let the people that dont care keep theirs while swapping out the others. Nothing to lose really...

You're right. Apple doesn't care about what people think. I think it's called reputation

 

[Zcar]

Given that there is no proof required that you even own an iPad 2 before pressing YES, NO, or DON'T KNOW, it's perhaps not the most accurate way of gauging the problem.

Even if proof were required, polls of this sort are known to be pretty much useless because there's no control on the sample. Generally people with complaints respond to these polls disproportionately.

 

[Gil22]

You're right. Apple doesn't care about what people think. I think it's called reputation

I think the decision was made that they had more to lose pushing the launch back a month because of production issues than they did by releasing the first batch of ipads with minor flaws in the way the black light bleeds. Again, this is all speculation but its pretty clear to me.

 

[Piggie]

I know that people are making up percentages from thin air.

However, I'd suspect there is nothing THAT unusual about people on the forums.

I don't see why "us" people who live all over the place, and have bought iPad2's at various diferent locations should not be a reasonably representative group of iPad2 issues.

I don't think that for some weird reason Apple selected to sell a load of poor quality products only to people on these forums, do you?

I understand you only tend to hear when something is bad, as in, "my home buttons does not work" or "the back of my iPad is scratched"

I mean, you would hardly post, "yay, my iPad is not scratched"

However, what I'm not seeing is a LOT of postings coming from people saying how great their backlight bleed is, or rather is not.

Given that this has become such an issue, with many many people either commenting and in some cases posting photo's, if this was the tiny minority of iPad2 owning forums members, one would think there would be a LOT of people posting back how there screen was fine, and I'm not seeing that.

I'm getting the feeling, that it's something like a good 50% if not perhaps 75% of screens might be rather, shall we say, on the "pretty poor" side, and only perhaps 25% if that, which are, shall we say, acceptable.

If it was like only 25% bad, then I'm sure the forums postings would not look as they do now. Esp when you read someone is on their 4th or 5th model, trying to find a good one in an Apple store.

Finding 1 bad one out of 5 good ones would be bad enough, not trying to find 1 good one from 5 bad ones!

As I say, I accept this forums does not represent every iPad2 owner in the country, however, as we are spread out, and seem to be, in general posting the same findings, as I also said, I don't see why this forum should not be used to extrapolate the wider findings of people.

 

[darngooddesign]

I think they are using the bleeding screen issue to hide the fact that they introduced a produce without any stock just to compete with zoom and other tablets that are out now!

Typical BIG APPLE LIE!

It must be true because you used all-caps.

 

[poloponies]

I'm getting the feeling, that it's something like a good 50% if not perhaps 75% of screens might be rather, shall we say, on the "pretty poor" side, and only perhaps 25% if that, which are, shall we say, acceptable.

It's good to be in touch with your feelings, but you shouldn't rely on "feelings" as the basis for factual assertions. There's ZERO science behind it.

 

[ARK]

On my iPad, the glass along the bottom edge by the home button is higher then the aluminum. When I press down on this area it makes a clicking glue adhere sound as if its sticky but doesnt have enough glue to keep it down. Im returning it Friday eve.