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And what's the other thing, about it being 50ms off at most. Kind of an strange statement to make when you can only see "minute" intervals.

Yeah, that's weird. How are you supposed to test this if you can only see the time to the nearest minute?
 
I fail to see what all the fuss is about.

Every 1980's 5 bucks digital watch had seconds on the display and maybe even a calculator below.

If people want to have the addition of seconds on their digital watch face on the Apple Watch then so be it.

EDIT: And people asking others what they need seconds in the digital watch face for: really, you just asked this? If they want it they just can have it, it's not friggin' rocket physics.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only person who wants/needs seconds to be displayed on the digital faces. Looking at some of these replies, you'd think I was! :rolleyes:

I prefer the analog faces and a sweeping second hand provides comforting feedback that time is indeed in motion. Digital watch faces also have their place and I would like to see the seconds there as well. In fact, I'd like to see hundredths of a second — I just like seeing the numbers flip by.

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's not a watch if can't display digital seconds. However, it mystifies me that it isn't an option.

Apple must have reasons for leaving seconds off. I get the feeling they just thought it looked less cluttered with just hours and minutes — it wouldn't do to have the flashing seconds count drawing attention away from the beautiful jellyfish. But it seems like it would be a perfect option for the modular face.
 
Exactly. I think that we should have the option to make current time the center module - shouldn't that typically be the largest, easiest-to-read item on a digital watch face?
 
Watch face apps will be coming soon from many (and I mean many) developers that will fill your needs. If you've owned a pebble, you'd understand.

just give it a little time and you'll get the watch face you want.

Why didn't Apple allow 3rd party watch faces from the start. Changing the watch is one of the best features of a smart watch. Even just including a personal photo to be the background would be nice.
 
I love the people bending over backwards to explain why we don't need to see seconds on the watch. But somehow it's vital to have the phases of the moon always available as a complication?

I'm willing to accept that this is just version 1.0 and that it will evolve. It's just baffling that they didn't think it was necessary to include on any of the faces.
 
Exactly. I think that we should have the option to make current time the center module - shouldn't that typically be the largest, easiest-to-read item on a digital watch face?

You mean on the modular face? It is the largest and easiest-to-read item.

And no, the most important item should not be in the dead centre of the frame, any photographer or graphic designer can tell you that.
 
You mean on the modular face? It is the largest and easiest-to-read item.

And no, the most important item should not be in the dead centre of the frame, any photographer or graphic designer can tell you that.

The largest module is the center one, not the top right.
 
The largest module is the center one, not the top right.

Jeebus, you're really clutching at straws now, aren't you? The centre module has the largest green box around it but it is a collection of smaller elements, using smaller text and/or a dimmed appearance. The digital clock display is by far the most prominent feature on the face.
 
Jeebus, you're really clutching at straws now, aren't you? The centre module has the largest green box around it but it is a collection of smaller elements, using smaller text and/or a dimmed appearance. The digital clock display is by far the most prominent feature on the face.

Awesome. It would be cool if we had the option of making the center module display the time, including seconds. :)
 
I guess every watch I've owned for the last 25 years were not watches. Who knew? Apparently it's not a watch without displaying seconds!

This is certainly a shocking development.

:rolleyes:
 
Yeah, you're right. Why on earth should the most advanced watch in the history of the world, with the capacity to display "millions" of different watch faces, need to display the seconds! :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, you're right. Why on earth should the most advanced watch in the history of the world, with the capacity to display "millions" of different watch faces, need to display the seconds! :rolleyes:

Well, don't forget that Apple makes no mistakes and everything they do is perfect! ;)

Seriously though, I can't wait to see the new faces they come up with! Hopefully they'll address this problem soon.
 
the most important item should not be in the dead centre of the frame, any photographer or graphic designer can tell you that.

Say that to the giant glowing apple logo on the back of my macbook air and my macbook pro ;)
 
All of these deficiencies will be addressed in time. I remember how many complaints there were when the early iPhones lacked MMS or cut and paste. We're just experiencing early-adopter pain. :)

Actually, I think you've hit the nail on the head, by bringing up MMS:

In any major project, a lot of influence comes from the top. For final decisions on functionality and design, the age of the bosses in charge is a big factor.

Steve Jobs was of an age where statistically speaking, men rarely used MMS back then. I think that's why MMS was not high on his priority list for the original iPhone. I think it would've been, if a younger person had final say.

Likewise, Cook and Ive are old enough to be used to analog watches, and thus those faces would get a little more attention from them. Again, a younger person might easily have gone the other way. For instance, I've found that many younger people (as below 30) cannot read analog faces at all. Only digital.

That's my theory, anyway, from long experience.
 
I don't buy this at all. We can have Mickey Mouse tapping his foot and an animated jellyfish, but a seconds display is just too much?

I wish there were, maybe, fish or something like stars twinkling in from of a nebula (like an OS X,iOS desktop default) offered as an alternative on the Motion clock face. Butterflies and flowers are sort of feminine (not afraid of my feminine side but...damn I don't want a flower or butterfly on my wrist you'd find in a crystal shop), and jellyfish just kind of creep me out.

And, yeah, the complication rules are sort of arbitrary.
 
I've had my Apple Watch for about a day now, and I have to say I'm really disappointed with the lack of standard WATCH functionality.


[*]The only analog face with the option to display numerals (1-12) around the dial is the Utility face, but that's the only face that only allows ONE complication at the bottom of the screen, rather than two (one in each corner).

You need numbers to tell the time? oh millennials
 
Actually, I think you've hit the nail on the head, by bringing up MMS:

In any major project, a lot of influence comes from the top. For final decisions on functionality and design, the age of the bosses in charge is a big factor.

Steve Jobs was of an age where statistically speaking, men rarely used MMS back then. I think that's why MMS was not high on his priority list for the original iPhone. I think it would've been, if a younger person had final say.

Likewise, Cook and Ive are old enough to be used to analog watches, and thus those faces would get a little more attention from them. Again, a younger person might easily have gone the other way. For instance, I've found that many younger people (as below 30) cannot read analog faces at all. Only digital.

That's my theory, anyway, from long experience.

I agree. I'm in the younger age range and it takes me a second to tell the time on a two-handed clock. I mean, I can tell time, but it's not instantly recognizable to me, and without the numbers it takes me forever.
 
I agree. I'm in the younger age range and it takes me a second to tell the time on a two-handed clock. I mean, I can tell time, but it's not instantly recognizable to me, and without the numbers it takes me forever.

I wouldn't tell a lot of people this... just saying
 
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I agree. I'm in the younger age range and it takes me a second to tell the time on a two-handed clock. I mean, I can tell time, but it's not instantly recognizable to me, and without the numbers it takes me forever.

I'm not *that* young, but I prefer clock faces to have numbers. I often have trouble telling if the hand is pointing to 1 or 2, 4 or 5, 7 or 8, or 10 or 11. Having the numbers on the clock helps me differentiate these in-between positions.
 
Just got my watch today and disappointed to find no option for digital seconds display. As a health care professional I use the seconds frequently at work. I know I can use the second hand on a clock face but I much prefer a digital face. I think this is a huge oversight and hope they add the option in the near future.
 
I can certainly read an analog clock face, but it does take a second for it to register in some cases (depending on where the hands are). Digital faces are more glanceable for me. But I've been experimenting with using an analog face to see if I can get better at using it, and I've also experimented using the 24-hour time setting for the digital faces, since many of my Japanese clients use that.
 
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