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IBM Says Macs Are Up to $543 Less Expensive Than PCs Over Time
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I agree that apple is a better investment than many seem to think. The reasons of IBM are very different from regular consumers though, they save money on less employee support. But the resell value of a Mac is phenomenal too, and iPhones. I recently sold one iMac and one iPhone. The 2 year old iMac I sold for half the price that I bought it. The phone I sold for 2/3 of its original price one year after - both got sold instantly!
There are no PC you can buy and sell 2 years later for half the price. The resell value of a two year old used PC tower is practically nothing, and its hard to get rid of too. But, I still had to buy one though, since apple don't offer anything that are in the same ballpark performance wise...sadly.
There are no PC you can buy and sell 2 years later for half the price. The resell value of a two year old used PC tower is practically nothing, and its hard to get rid of too. But, I still had to buy one though, since apple don't offer anything that are in the same ballpark performance wise...sadly.
I have bought these desktop Macs; 2002 original iMac G4, 2006 original Mac Pro, 2013 new Mac Pro. I bought my first mac which was an iBook in 2001, it still works. I prefer desktops, only need to buy a new one every 5-6 years.
That is because they aren't filled with tons of IT software generating issues in the first place. I've gotten my laptop wiped twice because of false positives (just could not risk it wasn't a false one). Stuff stopping to work because security software X recevied an update. The antivirus randomly and quietly deleting compiler generated '.class' files because they look suspicious. IT policies nuking files in installations because "they are used by hacking tools too".
Your comparison is correct, but only if you want a high-quality laptop. If you can't buy anything but a budget laptop, then you can't save money with a Mac because you can't afford it in the first place.
I remember my student days. I could buy three Dell laptops for the price of one MacBook Pro. I wanted to run Linux, so I got the Dell of course. Later in life, I started developing apps, so now I enjoy the nice laptops that Apple makes.
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iMac. I truely do. Ever since the 1998 model.
I love how iMac is a product that has really evolved from the original Macintosh computer design in 1984. And I have a feeling iMac is ready to evolve a little more very shortly.
Viva la iMac! Long live iMac!
I love how iMac is a product that has really evolved from the original Macintosh computer design in 1984. And I have a feeling iMac is ready to evolve a little more very shortly.
Viva la iMac! Long live iMac!
Same here with a 2009 13" MBP base model (LAMP, Python and Xcode dev). It's had a great 7 years, but it's time to upgrade
Still running my 2009 17'' MBP. 100% strong with an Intel SSD. Before I switched over, I was changing PCs every 1.5-2.5 years.
Article Link: IBM Says Macs Are Up to $543 Less Expensive Than PCs Over Time[/QUOTE]
[doublepost=1477033789][/doublepost]While I also think that the Mac is easier to support: IBM is a bad example; the "Mac-Support" is non-existent. I understand that if there are only five people employed globally, but people with "PC Support questions" are really left alone....
[doublepost=1477033789][/doublepost]While I also think that the Mac is easier to support: IBM is a bad example; the "Mac-Support" is non-existent. I understand that if there are only five people employed globally, but people with "PC Support questions" are really left alone....
Sadly, most software don't work on all platforms, so many firms can't use macs due to heavy investments in their windows eco systems.
Over the last 10 years in our organisation we have switched from PC to Mac.
First gfx, then management, followed by development, sales, marketing and so on.
Some Macs were shifted to other departments, others got sold 2nd hand for a very good price.
Today even the front office, accounting and warehouse use Macs.
We are not a huge company but have some international satellite offices.
Our IT maintenance costs went straight downhill. We let go our 2 full-time system administrators, an on-site server room, didn't renew a pile of Microsoft licenses, antivirus subscriptions, moved mail from MSX to Google Apps, ditched the expensive internet connection we used for MSX. All our (non-media) files are in the cloud.
We still do the occasional stuff on Windows via VMWare, but for 99% of the time.
Unproductive hours because of malfunctioning OS / hardware is at an all time low, staff enjoys the 'premium' machinery, management is happy for the saved costs.
In a business environment a $500 PC which is down for 1 day a month costs a lot more than a $2000 Mac which doesn't.
For our situation the switch to Apple proved to be extremely good value.
First gfx, then management, followed by development, sales, marketing and so on.
Some Macs were shifted to other departments, others got sold 2nd hand for a very good price.
Today even the front office, accounting and warehouse use Macs.
We are not a huge company but have some international satellite offices.
Our IT maintenance costs went straight downhill. We let go our 2 full-time system administrators, an on-site server room, didn't renew a pile of Microsoft licenses, antivirus subscriptions, moved mail from MSX to Google Apps, ditched the expensive internet connection we used for MSX. All our (non-media) files are in the cloud.
We still do the occasional stuff on Windows via VMWare, but for 99% of the time.
Unproductive hours because of malfunctioning OS / hardware is at an all time low, staff enjoys the 'premium' machinery, management is happy for the saved costs.
In a business environment a $500 PC which is down for 1 day a month costs a lot more than a $2000 Mac which doesn't.
For our situation the switch to Apple proved to be extremely good value.
Isn't the reality that your own a gaming PC and a Surface because you can do dick squat on your Macs? Why else do you have them or need those PCs if your Macs could do everything you need with such reliably? If your Mac was giving you no trouble (operating slow perhaps?) did you need to change to SSD and more Ram?
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I agree iPads are much more convenient for email. You clearly are a power user if you can get by with an iPad at work over a PC (or a Mac for that matter)
It might even be statistically significant, only in a way aloshka hasn't considered: It might just show that more of aloshka's friends are Mac users nowadays.
Looking at the design progression, the logical future step is to curve the front of the screen …IiMac. I truely do. Ever since the 1998 model.
I love how iMac is a product that has really evolved from the original Macintosh computer design in 1984. And I have a feeling iMac is ready to evolve a little more very shortly.
Viva la iMac! Long live iMac!
I don't buy that at all, but kudos for not using a round number!
I've never thought Mac pricing to be unreasonable. Compare Mac pricing to top-end PC gaming [laptops], or workstation lines and you'll see what I mean. I specced a Lenovo Thinkpad P70 configuration and it came up to $7000 when I was done.
On the other side of the equation, is that you wouldn't even have the option of enhancing a Mac to similar specs.
Want better a better GPU or CPU in your Mac??? Sorry, you're stuck with a low-end integrated GPU or slower dGPU.
Want a gaming GPU in your Mac??? Not even an option in the Mac.
So, that's the other end of the equation.
Macs are great for those with less demanding needs. But comparing a gaming computer against a Mac is like comparing a Lamborghini to a Volvo.
He did show those numbers. ~$50million vs ~$27million for the underlying stack that provides the infrastructure. Then the help desk costs. Faaaaaar fewer Mac help desk calls and much smaller team needed.
Oddly, this thread focuses on macs are cheaper. The whole point of ibm offering macs was NOT to cut costs. It was to give employees a choice because they were asking for them. He said if they intended to cut costs they would have asked a thousand different questions. Cutting costs was just a secondary benefit they found after the fact.