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iBooks 1.2.1 Detects Some Jailbreaks, Disables iBookstore Purchases in Response

rwilliams said:
You can access the entire filesystem on a jailbroken phone using SSH.
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You can, but why would you want to if you're cracking the iBookstore's DRM?

Jailbreaking the device wont gain you anything.

The books are copied to your computer using iTunes - anyone can do that without having to jailbreak their device.
 
RevoDS said:
...This is scary, but not because of iBooks itself. Apple could simply be testing the method on iBooks, then spread it to other standard apps (Safari, music, phone, etc.) or even Springboard itself if it works well. It could very well become tougher or even impossible to jailbreak as a jailbroken phone would simply lock itself up. Fixing that would require modifying iOS much more in depth than what's done right now. (that is, IF Apple eventually decides to run this check elsewhere)
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This, I think, would be illegal. This would in turn render your hardware useless, which I think would illegal for Apple to do as you've purchased and actually own the specific hardware. I don't Apple can legally make it impossible to jailbreak your iPhone, they can only refuse to provide their own services to it if it has been jailbroken. But then you get into a matter of non-service Apple owned software still being used (goods such as Safari) on what Apple considers to be unsupported operating software so it becomes a very difficult situation... Something I don't Apple would want to particularly get into (but of course I can only speak on behalf of my own thoughts and beliefs).
 
Daveoc64 said:
You can, but why would you want to if you're cracking the iBookstore's DRM?

Jailbreaking the device wont gain you anything.

The books are copied to your computer using iTunes - anyone can do that without having to jailbreak their device.
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Oh okay, I see what you're saying.
 
I'm affected, and I accept it.

I have a few iBooks-purchased books. (Three, to be precise, plus three free-but-DRMed.)

I have my iPhone jailbroken.

I noticed this behavior. It opens PDFs just fine, it opens public domain iBooks just fine, but it won't open non-public-domain iBooks.

Am I annoyed? Yes. Do I think Apple has the legal right to do this? Yes. Hey, at least public domain books still work. They could have chosen to just block iBooks from launching at all.

Of course, for me it's slightly less of an issue because I have an iPad that I usually read iBooks on. (And Kindle books, although I haven't paid for any on there yet.)
 
macsrcool1234 said:
+ 1. I don't see what Apple hopes to gain from this. People can just buy books from the (superior) Kindle store anyways. This is nothing but a way to lose a revenue stream.
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No, this is the way Apple protects the revenue stream. With out publishers that are confident that their copyrighted material is being protected, there is no iBooks or Kindle store. This is the very reason some authors, like J. K. Rowling publicly state they don't use digital yet for fears of piracy. Hacked devices inhibit Apple's ability to monitor use of Copy-protected material. If they don't keep publishers confident, there is nothing to sell.
 
OllyW said:
So it's got nothing to do with piracy.
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Just because you don't know how to use unsigned code to "pirate" copyrighted content doesn't mean that Apple doesn't know how to do this. Once they know how, they can legally try to prevent it (as the DMCA covers book contents).

According to estimates from various app analytics companies, almost half of all broken OS iDevices contain modified apps that are most likely copyright violations. So statistically, it has everything to do with piracy.
 
I'll be honest i doubt many jailbreakers have many legally downloaded books on there iOs devices, I know I certainly don't.

So don't really see the big deal...
 
henry72 said:
Great!!! I can't understand why would people wanted to JB their awesome phone. They want somebody hack into their phone one day? lol Watch out!!!
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The anti-jailbreak posts on here are a riot. Are you all happy with your Holier-Than-Thou attitudes? Do you feel special every day that you use your Apple products exactly as they are intended? Do you sniff smugly whenever someone mentions the unsightly act of jailbreaking?

I'm really glad none of you were living in Silicon Valley in the 70s and 80s -- tinkering with systems, poking about, and homebrew ktis were the backbone of the computer revolution. The reason we have iPhones and OSX is because of people who just mucked about with stuff to see what they could do.

Whatever. Enjoy your sense of superiority. Me? I'll keep my JB and allow myself to enjoy features that improve the iOS experience so alarmingly (Quick Reply SMS, 5 app dock, LockInfo) that it's almost criminal that Apple hasn't thought to include them at this point.
 
Night Spring said:
Surely Apple can't deny people use of their legally purchased content without suffering legal consequences? If they aren't going to allow people to access their properly purchased iBooks on JB devices, they need to be upfront about this policy, and also refund any purchases made before this change in policy. Otherwise, I smell a class action suit coming on.



There's no way to remove DRM from iBooks that I'm aware of. I'm sure being jailbroken could facilitate any de-DRM process hackers might come up with, but Apple still hasn't done anything to prevent cracked apps from being installed or runing on JB devices, and that is a problem that has existed almost as long as there has been an App Store. That they would go after people with legitimately purchased iBooks while leaving cracked apps to run rampant just doesn't make sense...
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Apple is not denying anyone access to the content purchased in iBooks. Simply restore the device and it will work again. They are simply not supporting the jailbroken configuration of devices in that app. When you jailbreak you make your own choice and have to be willing to live by the trade offs that choice brings with it.

Jailbreaking is "breaking" the security model of iOS. You are fundamentally destroying the security model. Don't expect technical support from Apple for a jailbroken device. If you want support, do a restore. You are free to jailbreak all you want but don't expect Apple or any third party dev to provide technical support for your device if it has a damaged firmware install which is what jailbreaking does.

@Number 41: Posts like your are a riot. Do you expect help when you break the OS on purpose? Do you expect developers to test apps in a jailbroken configuration? Do you expect them to test against third party add ons from Cydia that modify the system? Do you have a clue about software development and testing?
 
archipellago said:
less apps

potential problems with apps

I hate piracy

malware potential

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Because everyone who jailbreaks is a pirate. Right.

I'm sure you were staunchly opposed to the first CD-R devices, because clearly anyone with a CD burner is just trying to pirate music and computer games.
 
macsrcool1234 said:
+ 1. I don't see what Apple hopes to gain from this. People can just buy books from the (superior) Kindle store anyways. This is nothing but a way to lose a revenue stream.
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Couldn't agree more. I'll just use Kindle from now on, so Apple's actions have cost them money.

I actually started using Kindle a month ago when this "error message" started appearing, and couldn't believe how much more content the Kindle Store have. The book reader app is just as good as iBooks, so I can't see why I would ever go back now.

Well done Apple.
 
Daveoc64 said:
The term "authorized device" refers to a computer, not an iPhone/iPod touch/iPad.

You must authorize the computer (using your iTunes Store account) that your iOS device syncs with in order to sync content to that device.
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That's why there are multiple quotes in the post. You can't modify the software on you computer either. Address the other License agreement bullets. You are clearly agreeing not to modify any of the software "chain". From the authorized computer used to sync, to the devices that actually display the book. It is all clearly covered.
 
Finally! i hope Apple start to fight jailbreak, i'm tired of retarded users in my shop telling they want to jailbreak to pirating 0,79cents apps or to get skype which is free on App Store as well. 90% of times some users in our shop got problems with iPhones is for jailbreak. Cheating in game center is a must nowdays...

You don't like original software or you find some limits for your usage? get another smartphone which fits you better.
 
Number 41 said:
Because everyone who jailbreaks is a pirate. Right.

I'm sure you were staunchly opposed to the first CD-R devices, because clearly anyone with a CD burner is just trying to pirate music and computer games.
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Stop this no sense, i can assure you most of them is for pirating or doing stupid stuff which can be done without jailbreak. I work in a support center and i know it. Naturally not "advanced" users who could post it.

Apple has been even too much soft until now.
 
Number 41 said:
The anti-jailbreak posts on here are a riot. Are you all happy with your Holier-Than-Thou attitudes? Do you feel special every day that you use your Apple products exactly as they are intended? Do you sniff smugly whenever someone mentions the unsightly act of jailbreaking?

I'm really glad none of you were living in Silicon Valley in the 70s and 80s -- tinkering with systems, poking about, and homebrew ktis were the backbone of the computer revolution. The reason we have iPhones and OSX is because of people who just mucked about with stuff to see what they could do.

Whatever. Enjoy your sense of superiority. Me? I'll keep my JB and allow myself to enjoy features that improve the iOS experience so alarmingly (Quick Reply SMS, 5 app dock, LockInfo) that it's almost criminal that Apple hasn't thought to include them at this point.
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+ this

If Steve Jobs were in his 20's not he would be part of the dev team ;)
 
macUser2007 said:
Only an idiot would buy a book from Apple: what you get is a totally locked, DRM-ed product, which you lose the moment you decide to switch platforms.
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Hummm... not so sure too many people think about switching platforms when they just bought a solution. Especially since most people read a book or magazine once and move on.
 
I thought there had been a Federal ruling that jailbreaking was legal. Apple is stepping into restraint of trade territory here and I hope they get they're heads handed to them.
 
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