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iBooks 1.2.1 Detects Some Jailbreaks, Disables iBookstore Purchases in Response
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You mean the source code and IP. Or you are saying that the copy of iOS installed in my phone belongs to Apple too? Can they get it back from me then?
yadda yadda blah blah
jailbreak community says the issue is fixed. cant fight the hacking, there are no full proof systems.
by the way, every fanboy that says jailbreaking's a crime and not the "true experience" or whatever... your just jealous you don't understand what jailbreaking is.
i do not condone piracy in any way, i believe in the sharing of cultural material and on the revamp of the industry's there of, i also believe in death to the "middle men" of the entertainment industry's so the true minds behind all the awesome stuff we get can enjoy all the $$ obtained via a fair pricing system to the general public instead of the greedy corporate wh@@@ who do nothing but peddle other people's creations.
end of opinion.
jailbreak community says the issue is fixed. cant fight the hacking, there are no full proof systems.
by the way, every fanboy that says jailbreaking's a crime and not the "true experience" or whatever... your just jealous you don't understand what jailbreaking is.
i do not condone piracy in any way, i believe in the sharing of cultural material and on the revamp of the industry's there of, i also believe in death to the "middle men" of the entertainment industry's so the true minds behind all the awesome stuff we get can enjoy all the $$ obtained via a fair pricing system to the general public instead of the greedy corporate wh@@@ who do nothing but peddle other people's creations.
end of opinion.
The copyright to iOS belongs to them. I can't copy and distribute it of course, but I do own my copy of it. It's like buying a book. You own the book, though you can't copy it. However if you wanted to say, cross out certain choice words and add new ones, changing the story in just your copy of the book, you're free to do so. It's your property. If I want to modify the OS, I'm free to do so.
Great analogy and I agree totally with it! When you buy a device, you own that copy of the software. You can not copy and redistribute it but you should be able to do what you want with your copy - you paid for it!
It would be a totally different story if the Devs who create the JB codes were actually modifying and then redistributing copies of modified IOS. But they aren't! They are only giving us a small addition of non Apple copyrighted code to JB the copy of OS that we already have (and paid for) on our own device. So they are not infringing any copyrights at all.
Think of JB as giving you a paper insert that you can glue into the inside cover of a book you bought. It's not infringing any copyright at all, but it is slightly modifying your own copy of that book! You can't then go any make copies of your modified book to hand out... but you can give people copies of the insert to use on their own copies of the book!
Was waiting to buy iPad. No will go with Droid
I have been a Mac fan since 1988, but have held off committing to the iPhone or iPad because of Apple's restrictions. I can install anything I want on my Mac, but being unable to do so on the iOS rubs me the wrong way. If I own it, I should be able to do what I want to.
I figured I could always jailbreak the thing.
Now I know, it will be Droid for me.
Apple was arrogant back the in 80's and lost market share because of it. Now it is arrogant Apple all over again.
I have been a Mac fan since 1988, but have held off committing to the iPhone or iPad because of Apple's restrictions. I can install anything I want on my Mac, but being unable to do so on the iOS rubs me the wrong way. If I own it, I should be able to do what I want to.
I figured I could always jailbreak the thing.
Now I know, it will be Droid for me.
Apple was arrogant back the in 80's and lost market share because of it. Now it is arrogant Apple all over again.
Think of JB as giving you a paper insert that you can glue into the inside cover of a book you bought. It's not infringing any copyright at all, but it is slightly modifying your own copy of that book! You can't then go any make copies of your modified book to hand out... but you can give people copies of the insert to use on their own copies of the book!
Try this analogy: You buy a house. The house comes with a full security system, locks on the doors, a set of keys that you can give so that only certain people are authorized to enter and a guarantee that when the house is locked up, it's perfectly secure. You decide, however, that you don't want to use the security system or the keys because you want to be able to allow everybody into your house. You trust your friends and you believe you live in a safe neighborhood. So you disable the locks and turn off the security system. Now anyone can come in and out at will. Hey, it's your house, and if you want to live that way, that's your right.
But if I'm a paranoid guest and I see that you're inviting me to come into your house with no locks and no security system, and I believe that my safety may be in danger by not being in a secured building, it's my right to refuse to stay. And if your insurance company finds out that you disabled the locks and the alarms, it's their right to refuse coverage in case of any problems.
Hey if you're that paranoid then I have the perfect place for you... JAIL!
Which is another great analogy of what the iPhone is without JB!
BAHAHAHA!!! Dev-team has already fixed the issue. No longer an issue.
GAWD!!! I wish those people would accept donations
GAWD!!! I wish those people would accept donations
Not an issue. PwnageTool has already released a workaround. If they block any of these, the jailbreakers will have it fixed quickly. Apple is continuously fighting against jailbreaking, and they're always one step behind. This was kind of a lame attempt, if you ask me.
"jailbreaking detection mechanism has been present since iOS 4.0 and is part of the fairplayd DRM check. It has only recently been generating attention as newer jailbreak methods such as greenpois0n have opened up Apple's restrictions enough to trigger the blocks. "
Proof that Apple knowingly leaves potential jailbreaks open .
They do this to increase interest in the product.
They know it will happen eventually a certain way,
they thought this would show how they are trying to fight it,
But ......It shows how they want it to happen.
Proof that Apple knowingly leaves potential jailbreaks open .
They do this to increase interest in the product.
They know it will happen eventually a certain way,
they thought this would show how they are trying to fight it,
But ......It shows how they want it to happen.
The cat reaches out with its claw and swipes across the mouse, but it just scurries off, it will be back.
Hey if you're that paranoid then I have the perfect place for you... JAIL!
Well, the protected content is owned by the studios and publishers and they're the ones that insist (INSIST) on making sure the locks and security are in place. I'm sure this is why Apple made this move.
We can be pretty sure Apple has known all about jailbreaking from the very beginning and for all these years they really don't seem to have cared. They could have spoiled all our JB fun in any of a thousand different ways. But they didn't. Except this one move? Obviously they have some reason for doing it. I believe it is out of an obligation to protect the publishers' interests.
Are you talking about the warranty? I don't think anyone's arguing against jailbreaking voiding the warranty. That's a service agreement, not a sale of property.
Again, my beef was't with them specifically blocking DRM content on iBooks. I have other alternatives (Kobo is what I am using now, until Apple forces them and Kindle etc out of iOS because of the 30% markup thing), then I'll just convert my ebooks to PDF (or just download the pdf versions) and use a good PDF reader on the iphone after that if need be.
I know APPLE in the grand scheme of things probably doesn't really care if I want a today screen on my iPhone and jailbroke it to use the app Lock Info....
My beef were with the comments that everyone who jailbreaks are thieves and just want to obtain content they didn't pay for. That is what urked me because I don't have any pirated content on my iPhone and I don't condone pirating/cracking etc.
No you're not. You've created a derivative work if you do that. 17 USC 106(2) grants the copyright holder the exclusive right to create derivative works. Absent some exception (fair use, etc.) you can't do what 17 USC 106 lists as being exclusively the domain of the copyright holder.
I think he means for his own use. As in, what he described would fall under the umbrella of "fair use."
That only applies if I distribute such a work. If I do it and keep it for my own personal use, I'm doing nothing wrong.
No, you are incorrect. Distributing copies is a separately enumerated exclusive right of the copyright holder (17 USC 106(3)). Merely "preparing" a derivative work is forbidden, whether or not you distribute it.
It may or may not be fair use. For example, one factor in determining fair use is the effect on the value of the work. If you prepare a derivative work (a modified OS, for example) so that you can avoid paying for things that Apple would otherwise sell you, that would be a factor against fair use. (Scribbling in a book you bought, obviously, would likely be fair use, but you start with the presumption that it's not).
It's all a moot argument anyway. US copyright policy specifically allows the modification of mobile phones to allow them to run legally acquired thirty-party software.
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/
It's encouraging to see that at least one person here "gets it".iBooks today, the whole system tomorrow
The massive number of Apple Zealots defending the lock down is appalling yet typical.