iBooks 1.2.1 Detects Some Jailbreaks, Disables iBookstore Purchases in Response

[jc1350]

Life is full of choices and those choices have consequences. Some are good; some are not-so-good.

You can choose a smartphone or a dumbphone. With smartphones you can choose iphone, blackberry, windows, or android. All have pros and cons (consequences).

With the iphone, you can run the OS provided by Apple or you can (as I do) break the OS to run programs not allowed in the App Store. But a consequence is that you can break Apple-provided features. Either way, you (anyone who jailbroke) made a choice. Apple has no responsibility to you if you intentionally break Apple's code.

BTW - you CAN open DRM books. You have to open it a bunch of times, but it will eventually open. I saw this in a thread in the iphone hacks section and I tested it myself on the Winnie the Pooh book.

edit to add: I don't care that Apple did this because I chose to jailbreak. It is my responsibility. All this whining reminds me of the @$$holes who break into someone's home to commit a crime, get hurt, and then SUE the homeowner.

 

[kuebby]

hmm. you mean steal then?

So what if that is what he meant?

Sometimes just picking the lesser of two evils isn't good enough. You have to blaze your own path until there's an option worth choosing.

I've never JB'd my iPhone and never even wanted to but it's things like this that make me want to, just to spite Apple.

 

[bushido]

well ... it already got "fixed" SUCKERS

isn't it ironic how apple tried to stop u from using something u legally purchased and basically forced u into pirating? sometimes i really dont understand how ppl get their job

 

[BaldiMac]

You jailbreak your iphone for legitimate reasons say, to remove the lock screen or to change the clock display.

Now your iBooks don't work.

Only options- unjailbreak, or start pirating.

Good one Apple.

I don't care about jailbreaking one way or another, but legally the reasons that you described are not actually legitimate in the US. The only legal exemptions to the DMCA at this point are for unlocking and for installing legally acquired third-party apps.

 

[NT1440]

Hmm, I foresee Apple running in to a ****-storm of hate and discontent.

The jailbreaking community is not nearly large enough for that. They've pulled stuff like this before blocking jailbreaking/unlocking. Everytime the hacking community deals with it and moves on.

 

[Full of Win]

Hmm, I foresee Apple running in to a ****-storm of hate and discontent.

Never in a million years.

Seriously, they are not running into it...they are smack dab in the middle of it. The downward trajectory following popularity is coming for Apple very soon....very soon indeed.

Apple is the Microsoft of the 2010's.

Users don't like to be bullied, pushed and generally made fools of. Apple, like Microsoft, is doing this. Its just a matter of time....

 

[ast03]

good thing i didnt purchase my phone to be used as a book.. books are great at being books

 

[NT1440]

Never in a million years.

Seriously, they are not running into it...they are smack dab in the middle of it. The downward trajectory following popularity is coming for Apple very soon....very soon indeed.

Apple is the Microsoft of the 2010's.

Users don't like to be bullied, pushed and generally made fools of. Apple, like Microsoft, is doing this. Its just a matter of time....

This doesn't even effect even close to a significant number of iOS device users. How is apple bullying those who don't jailbreak?

 

[macsrcool1234]

PwnageTool (released today) already has a fix to bypass this limitation. DRM books can now be viewed without issue.

 

[Slurpy2k8]

You know what? **** Apple. The only reason I jailbroke was so I can change the useless soft volume slider on the multitasking bar to a contrast slider, which has been a massive improvement to me, and much more useful. I've legitimately bought books from the ibookstore that I can't open anymore. What is this message supposed to do, convince me to restore and never jailbreak again? All it does it make sure I never again buy anything from iBooks, ans use another ebook app instead for my purchases, ie. kindle.

 

[Mr Fusion]

This belongs on page 2

The lines have been drawn on Jailbreaking already between Apple and:

- Those who Jailbreak
- Those who think they are morally superior
- Those who don't give a ****

This isn't a rumor or news. It's flamebait. Keep it off the front page.

That said: iBooks. ...Seriously?

 

[Popeye206]

Never in a million years.

Seriously, they are not running into it...they are smack dab in the middle of it. The downward trajectory following popularity is coming for Apple very soon....very soon indeed.

Apple is the Microsoft of the 2010's.

Users don't like to be bullied, pushed and generally made fools of. Apple, like Microsoft, is doing this. Its just a matter of time....

Mr. Gloom and Doom.

You know, there's a room of Apple people with SJ at the head of the table just dreaming up ways to piss off customers and tank the company. UGH!

Did you EVER stop and think there might be a reason for this? Security? Maybe their Publishers had issues with ways to breech the DRM?

Naw.... not that... just Apple Tank team back at work to destroy the company and watch their customers flee.

 

[mbezzo]

This thread is now giant, and i'm not sure if someone else mentioned it... BUT this started happening to me a few weeks ago, and after getting the error message 3 or 4 time, the book opens up just fine...

So, just keep dismissing the error and keep on opening the book, it'll work

 

[iPhysicist]

Never in a million years.

Seriously, they are not running into it...they are smack dab in the middle of it. The downward trajectory following popularity is coming for Apple very soon....very soon indeed.

The end is near - believe me - the end is almost here drink the poison HURRY, THE END IS NEAR!

Full of wine or what makes you so pathetic

 

[palmerc]

Jailbreaking, honestly.

The term JB should be changed...

iOS is built on the OSX platform, which many know and love. The ecosystem in which Apple created with iOS serves many (the whole if you will) with great intentions of user driven simplicity. It works well as is, why change it.

The issue that many continue to try and drive this bus with is that iPhone/iPad are a closed File System, which is completely contradictory of it's big brother OSX. You can do whatever you want on your Mac, and even automate the process you wish to drive.

iPhone and iPad have been given chains and locks to it's filesystem. You see, there is really no fundamental difference in the two systems other than iOS being dummied down to run on a smaller version of a computer (Hence iPhone).

Be that as it may, Jailbreaking or (iOS freeing) is nothing more than using the phone as a computer. There is no inherit danger in using it for more than Apple's intended approved purpose other than what Apple want's you or the mainstream to believe.

Torrenting, stealing, DRM, hacking (and the like) have been around for years, and will continue to be around for many more. There is nothing to differentiate doing this on iPhone vs a Mac or PC. I for one see no issue with freeing iOS and opening it up for the device owners needs. I do not condone stealing, however this is the main sticking point when the JB is discussed. When people privatize or "customize" their respected PC/Mac's, I don't see the same arguments from others that we see about this process and iPhone.

The general consensus seems to be that if you are against JB'ing or freeing your iPhone's File System, then the main question to ask yourself is why? What really is wrong with using the iPhone as a computer which is EXACTLY what it is?

Really, I don't understand how these back and forth illegal discussions on JB'ing devices continues. It's your device, the tools are built by a community that shares similar thoughts and beliefs to write code to open it up and use. So, if you want an open system great, if not- good for you- your not the audience this is for.

You are incorrect in suggesting that there is nothing inherently dangerous about jailbreaking. The iPhone is not OSX, and it doesn't have the same system level safeguards to prevent malicious software from being run on it. The security and experience of iOS is derived primarily through the cryptographic prevention of unapproved software being run on it.

But this is red herring. Jailbreaking is about theft of content and software. We can argue until we are blue in the face about your right to jailbreak your phone, but in the end people who jailbreak are all about taking what they didn't pay for.

Could you hypothetically be hacking on your iPhone at home? Sure. But you aren't.

 

[Synergie]

Really, all this move does is drive many customers away from buying iBooks content! I bet Kobo, Kindle, and B&N are all jumping up and down for joy at all the new customers that Apple handed to them on a silver platter

Actually, even if the issue gets fixed or a workaround is found, I'll probably still stick with Kobo now, as I am starting to like the Facebook integration etc.

 

[bushido]

Jailbreaking is about theft of content and software. We can argue until we are blue in the face about your right to jailbreak your phone, but in the end people who jailbreak are all about taking what they didn't pay for.
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lol ... u have no clue

i havent used it to steal software nor is it supported by default (u have to find and install some repos and u r even asked to stop and support the developers)

its used by MOST people to change stuff that apple is after 4 generations still to dumb to accomplish by themselves, like a great notification system, custom icons, closing all apps by one click ... list goes on and on

 

[Synergie]

But this is red herring. Jailbreaking is about theft of content and software. We can argue until we are blue in the face about your right to jailbreak your phone, but in the end people who jailbreak are all about taking what they didn't pay for.

Speak for yourself! My iPhone 4 is jailbroken, and I have not stolen ANYTHING, nor do I ever intend to! I pay for every app that I want, and I don't even download music that I didn't pay for!

My reasons for Jailbreaking are to put functionality that Apple SHOULD have included to begin with! Like a today screen - what use is the lock screen the way it is if you have to unlock just to see new notifications? Then instead of being able to see them all in one place you have to search for all the icon badges and click on all the apps separately to see the new information. That SUCKS! Lock Info is an AWESOME app, that puts functionality in that's so basic and given in every other smartphone.... and my using Lock Info is a serious FAR CRY from stealing!

 

[chris7777]

Question. If the jailbroken device is restored to unjailbroken status, will the ibooks purchased that became unusable be readable again?

If so then I really have no issue with this.

if they are permanently corrupted, then I have a huge issue with apple telling me to use my device only how they see fit or they will break/corrupt it, and or resend my purchases without refund.

 

[firewood]

Hmm, I foresee Apple running in to a ****-storm of hate and discontent.

The percentage of JB devices in the U.S. is reported to be around 6%, maybe less. Too tiny and insignificant a percentage for Apple to want to mess it up for the vast majority of customers who give Apple higher consumer satisfaction ratings than any of your other alternative choices for a device.

If Apple gives these JB people incentive to leave, the added security will most likely grow Apple's enterprise customer base by more than enough to compensate.

 

[zweigand]

I love reading posts from people with entitlement issues.

 

[LordJohnWhorfin]

I love reading posts from people with entitlement issues.

What makes you believe you're entitled to read them?

 

[BaldiMac]

lol ... u have no clue

i havent used it to steal software nor is it supported by default (u have to find and install some repos and u r even asked to stop and support the developers)

its used by MOST people to change stuff that apple is after 4 generations still to dumb to accomplish by themselves, like a great notification system, custom icons, closing all apps by one click ... list goes on and on

Again, I have nothing against jailbreaking, but according to US law, he was right, and you are wrong. Modifying Apple's software outside of the limitations copyright is illegal. Unless you jailbreak only to unlock your phone or install legally obtained third party apps, chances are you are breaking the law. All of the things you described are illegal in the US.

 

[dukebound85]

Again, I have nothing against jailbreaking, but according to US law, he was right, and you are wrong. Modifying Apple's software outside of the limitations copyright is illegal. Unless you jailbreak only to unlock your phone or install legally obtained third party apps, chances are you are breaking the law. All of the things you described are illegal in the US.

illegal?

source?

 

[BaldiMac]

illegal?

source?

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/