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iBooks and iTunes U Updated With iOS 7 Redesigns

Rogifan said:
I change to the list view. Like it much more, hated the bookshelves. Yeah it might be a "colder" look but what I'm interested in is my book, not the bookshelf.
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Exactly. Being able to read the book should take precedence over how the app looks.

The way some have reacted, reads more like...Hey bill, check out my new iBook app. Bill takes a look at the app and then proceeds to try and open a book. Nothing happens. Bill states that the app doesn' work right. App owner says, "i know, but doesn't it look great?"
 
acidblue said:
Am I the only one who thinks so?
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No, you are not. iOS 7, strictly speaking from the standpoint of proper user interface design, is a complete embarrassment. It's like Apple put a hardware guy in charge of software without any real previous experience in software. Or maybe put print ad marketers in charge, who focus purely on aesthetic and not digital interaction. Oh wait, I'm pretty sure they did precisely both of those.

I literally cringe every time I see an app get updated for iOS 7. My iOS devices are quickly become sterile, bland, and cluttered-looking.

I doubt I'll ever buy another iBook again. I cannot immerse myself in the reading experience using Windows 95 Notepad for hours on end. I no longer find any pleasure in staring at my bookshelf reminiscing. Because it's ***** ugly now.
 
redscull said:
No, you are not. iOS 7, strictly speaking from the standpoint of proper user interface design, is a complete embarrassment. It's like Apple put a hardware guy in charge of software without any real previous experience in software. Or maybe put print ad marketers in charge, who focus purely on aesthetic and not digital interaction. Oh wait, I'm pretty sure they did precisely both of those.

I literally cringe every time I see an app get updated for iOS 7. My iOS devices are quickly become sterile, bland, and cluttered-looking.

I doubt I'll ever buy another iBook again. I cannot immerse myself in the reading experience using Windows 95 Notepad for hours on end. I no longer find any pleasure in staring at my bookshelf reminiscing. Because it's ***** ugly now.
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Talk about hyperbole. Gosh it's a wonder Apple is selling any iOS devices anymore. :rolleyes:
 
BasicGreatGuy said:
Exactly. Being able to read the book should take precedence over how the app looks.
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I'm sorry but this has traditionally been the Windows/Android way of thinking.

Apple has always offered the same functions as those companies, but stood apart in offering a unique EXPERIENCE. Jobs knew how important experience was in distinguishing the company from competitors.

You can argue whether this shift is detrimental or not, but Ive's software philosophy is nowhere near Job's.
 
redscull said:
I literally cringe every time I see an app get updated for iOS 7. My iOS devices are quickly become sterile, bland, and cluttered-looking.

I doubt I'll ever buy another iBook again. I cannot immerse myself in the reading experience using Windows 95 Notepad for hours on end. I no longer find any pleasure in staring at my bookshelf reminiscing. Because it's ***** ugly now.
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I literarily cringe reading this.
 
Millah said:
No :rolleyes:

If you are an actual developer, and you have access to the WWDC 2013 session videos, I would suggest watching some of them. The Apple designers get on stage and talk about their thought process behind the design, why they did it, what they did, etc. They go through app-by-app talking about visual design, structural design, interaction design, and even psychological design, and explain exactly why they did these things and why they MAKE SENSE. Not to mention, when they compare to previous designs in iOS 6, they actually talk about how beautiful the designs were.
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They even praise third-party (super "skeuomorphic") iOS 6 designs in session 225, summarised here - http://blog.iconfinder.com/6-tips-from-apple-on-creating-great-app-icons/

But designers can always explain everything - just look for a completely failed CI redesign online, and read the original rationale, I'm sure it'll sound convincing in isolation (committees excel here) ;)
 
Millah said:
We have Retina Displays and we have vastly more graphical power now in iOS devices. The user interface was due for a change.
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Yes, we have amazing retina displays capable of showing more detail per square inch than anything in history, and we use them to show vast spaces of pure white with an occasional gradient or single colored word. There are literally no details whatsoever to benefit from retina except very crisp text. Even rounded corners, which could finally look truly curved, have been replaced by sharp corners.

Now, when our devices could finally look the most alive, the most tactile and interactive, the most real and inviting ever, we have completely detached and disassociated them from anything our brains instinctively recognize and want to look at or touch.
 
H. Flower said:
I'm sorry but this has traditionally been the Windows/Android way of thinking.

Apple has always offered the same functions as those companies, but stood apart in offering a unique EXPERIENCE. Jobs knew how important experience was in distinguishing the company from competitors.

You can argue whether this shift is detrimental or not, but Ive's software philosophy is nowhere near Job's.
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Personally while I think iOS 7 went a bit too much in the other direction I wasn't a fan of the skeuomorphism experience. But you're absolutely right; Jobs and Ive have different philosophies when it comes to software design. I still view iOS 7 as version 1.0 of Apple's new direction. Maybe they should have waited until 2014 but had iOS 7 looked largely like iOS 6 my guess is there would have been a lot of complaining just like there is now (just from different people).
 
H. Flower said:
Color Palette: White, Grey, Black

Form: Rectal-linear

Text functions as buttons
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It also used quite a bit of cyan and dark blue. Most of the buttons were 3D with beveled edges. I really don't see it.

If I were to compare it to another desktop OS I'd say Xerox Star.
 
Rogifan said:
Talk about hyperbole. Gosh it's a wonder Apple is selling any iOS devices anymore. :rolleyes:
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I did not exaggerate. Thanks.

Despite iOS 7, iOS devices are still superior to Android devices. That's why they continue to sell. Apple devices are quite beautiful, in fact.. until you wake them up and log in.
 
redscull said:
Yes, we have amazing retina displays capable of showing more detail per square inch than anything in history, and we use them to show vast spaces of pure white with an occasional gradient or single colored word. There are literally no details whatsoever to benefit from retina except very crisp text. Even rounded corners, which could finally look truly curved, have been replaced by sharp corners.

Now, when our devices could finally look the most alive, the most tactile and interactive, the most real and inviting ever, we have completely detached and disassociated them from anything our brains instinctively recognize and want to look at or touch.
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I thought the point of rich textured design was specifically for displays that weren't hi res. not sure why a retina display would need a Microsoft Bob like interface. Btw, I'm not defending the overuse of white in iOS 7.
 
H. Flower said:
I'm sorry but this has traditionally been the Windows/Android way of thinking.
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I thought the traditional Windows way involves extensive feature creep and legacy support while Android follows the traditional Linux philosophy of fearing abandonware and jumping ship when everyone gets bored.
 
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