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iCloud Beta Previews Web Versions of Notes and Reminders

coolfactor said:
Isn't that what this is? I'm confused by your stance.

I also view these iCloud apps as a testing ground for Apple to continue to push the boundaries of their own skills, tools and technologies. These web apps are really well designed to the point of not feeling like they are web-based at all. Impressive.
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No, actually, it isn't. There is no Apple developed OS X equivalent of "Notes". Notes is also highly restricted in what it can do as a full fledged "notebook" app. I can not insert and take pictures, I can not "scrapbook" various forms of media together to collect my thoughts, brainstorm, or plan out projects, and I can not alter pdf's and highlight/annotate important parts. Oh, but I can make grocery shopping lists, something I can do in a notebook app anyway.

Notes is exactly what it's trying to portray, a yellow notepad. What is really useful though is an actual notebook, and it's a better application of resources to go all in or not go in at all (i.e. focus on other areas).
 
coolfactor said:
Notes are being viewed by Apple as an essential data type that belongs in iCloud.

I know a couple that enters their shopping lists on their iPad and then grabs their iPhones knowing the list will be there when they arrive at the store. Nothing special for them to do. Achieving the same with a third-party solution would involve the extra step of installing and configuring the app on all devices.
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Not if the app is designed to use iCloud, which any good app worth its salt needs to start using it. Out of the hundred apps I have, only two use iCloud for syncing data across devices, and both are games. (PocketPlanes, but not TinyTower and League of Evil 2, but not League of Evil.) It's there for a reason. To make it easy as pie to put one device down and pick up another with the data all synced across them, but so many apps don't take advantage of what is literally free data cloud storage. Even ones you'd think would be most obvious to benefit (Like games like Angry Birds or Bejeweled or other apps.) haven't even made an effort to try and use it even though it's been available for a year.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
That's nice, but what iCloud really needs is a real iDisk replacement.
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It's called Dropbox. ;)

But seriously, if they can get the iWork suite to work seamlessly between iOS and OS X then much of iDisk's work is no longer needed. Sure you can't sync other program files or archives, but nothing is stopping third-party developers from integrating into iCloud.
 
Apple,

No offense but, since I work in an enterprise environment that is Windows/Office/Exchange based, (unfortunately) my contacts and calendar are handled on my iPhone via Exchange. So I have no need for calendar or contacts in iCloud. And since you won't let me route my personal owned domain through iCloud email (a la Google Apps) and I refuse to have an email account that ends in .me, I have no need for your iCloud email. And this is true for MOST iOS users, and a very large percentage of Mac users.

Believe me, if you'd let me do with my personal domain email what Google does I would switch in about ten seconds.

But what I really want, what I really, really want, is the ability to manage and view my photo streams on the iCloud web interface.

But I'm not too upset, because me thinks you're really close to doing it...
 
It is free, that is a big advantage.

akadmon said:
Why would anyone use Notepad instead of a piece of paper or lists? :confused: There are dedicated apps, like Grocery IQ, that are infinitely more usefull for that kind of stuff.
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I actually like notes, it is a good place to keep track of my operating notes to my self at work. The only thing that Id really like is that ability to enter lists from within the notes app.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
It's called Dropbox. ;)

But seriously, if they can get the iWork suite to work seamlessly between iOS and OS X then much of iDisk's work is no longer needed. Sure you can't sync other program files or archives, but nothing is stopping third-party developers from integrating into iCloud.
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There's no reason why they can't enable Documents in the Cloud to sync all file types.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
There's no reason why they can't enable Documents in the Cloud to sync all file types.
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Granted but the more important question is why should they host files types for Apps they don't make? Wouldn't it make more sense from Apple's perspective to let those people host their own files, or at a minimum integrate into iCloud?

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Daveoc64 said:
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's visible on their computer (i.e. the point of putting it on the web page that this thread is talking about).
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I don't think you understand how Journals works. The point is you can share photos by syncing them up to iCloud and you can share a link for other people to go and see on any computer. It's sorta like, um, Galleries.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
I don't think you understand how Journals works. The point is you can share photos by syncing them up to iCloud and you can share a link for other people to go and see on any computer. It's sorta like, um, Galleries.
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If it's not two button presses in the Photos app, it's not as good as MobileMe Gallery.

As much bad press as MobileMe got, they dropped all of the stable features with iCloud.
 
They need to replace Forstall and his taste for fake leather, linen, skeumorphic crap.. iOS UI isn't fitting well with Jony Ive's design..
 
fentor said:
Don't see the point of providing a notes app... when Galleries/Photostream, KeyChain, Bookmarks would be infinitely more useful (now MobileMe has passed)... wrong priorities in my view
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To you perhaps but that doesn't mean the majority feels the same way

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JohnDoe98 said:
You realize there is an iOS version of iPhoto that includes Journals right?
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More to the point at the moment it is exclusively in iPhoto for iOS

Also there will be sharing in photo stream with iOS 6

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rdlink said:
. And this is true for MOST iOS users, and a very large percentage of Mac users.
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And exactly how many users did you talk to for that 'fact'
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charlituna said:
More to the point at the moment it is exclusively in iPhoto for iOS

Also there will be sharing in photo stream with iOS 6
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Right, so if we don't see an update to iPhoto with ML when it adds in more iOSification, then there will be grounds for complaint.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
Right, so if we don't see an update to iPhoto with ML when it adds in more iOSification, then there will be grounds for complaint.
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Correct.

I can see an update to the iWork desktop apps with the release of Mountain Lion or maybe even a beta version for devs. They did that once before.
 
Peace said:
Correct.

I can see an update to the iWork desktop apps with the release of Mountain Lion or maybe even a beta version for devs. They did that once before.
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I do see them doing an iWork release. I don't see them doing the beta for devs first. They sold many of us the Retina display with advertisements saying that most Apple software was Retina ready and the rest was coming soon. I do expect them to deliver on that promise. 2 months or more to wait for Retina on the iWork suite would not be acceptable to me, and I imagine I wouldn't be the only one to complain. Now if they did a small update to the old suite adding in Retina and released a new iWork beta, that would work. But why would they go through all that trouble?

I'm betting they are just working on a 64bit Retina rdy version of iWork that will be released "soon", as promised.
 
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That is all. Thank you.
 
for how long?

ThunderSkunk said:
Looking forward to finally seeing this functionality completed.

Agreed though, these graphics are looking unnecessarily clunky and dated.
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Seriously, how could anyone trust Apple with cloud data/apps?

Mac.com - big hype, now gone.
me.com - big hype, now gone.
mobileme - big hype, now gone.
iwork.com - big hype, nearly gone.

See the pattern?
 
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