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So if you want to open a PDF on your computer, you first open Acrobat, then open the file inside of Acrobat?

It's actually creating an extra step. Why not simply just double click on the file wherever it is? Or even within an explorer that is front and center, where you can easily see other relevant files, no matter the type?

Actually it goes a little bit more like this....

The Current Old Way:

1. Open Finder/File Manager (extra middle man step)

2. Find your PDF amongst thousands of Word Docs, Keynote files, videos, images, and the hundreds of other document types that are definitely NOT PDF Files

3. Click on the PDF file you want and it opens the Acrobat app for you




The New Way:

1. Open the Acrobat app ( thus skipping the middle man)

2. Click on the PDF file you want (which is much easier to find since it's just a neatly organized list of all your PDF files)

3. There is no step 3.
 
Actually it goes a little bit more like this....

The Current Old Way:

1. Open Finder/File Manager (extra middle man step)

2. Find your PDF amongst thousands of Word Docs, Keynote files, videos, images, and the hundreds of other document types that are definitely NOT PDF Files

3. Click on the PDF file you want and it opens the Acrobat app for you




The New Way:

1. Open the Acrobat app ( thus skipping the middle man)

2. Click on the PDF file you want (which is much easier to find since it's just a neatly organized list of all your PDF files)

3. There is no step 3.

Again though, what if I want to see multiple file types at once?
 
Not knowing exactly what format the file is in is exactly the type of situation this solves. I don't need to know if I saved my document in .doc, .docx, .pages, or .rtf because the Pages app can open and edit them all. Plus a search using Spotlight will show you the format. I've also made things easier by reducing the number of formats and apps that I save things in.

As for saving across projects, that's what tags are for. Folders for projects is a much less flexible way of handling things.

Pages can't open a PDF...or an Numbers files...How do you tag files in iOS (legit question)? Tags are great but folders can organize things in hierarchies. Also, it's so much easier for me to drag in 17 files into a Folder called "New Album Demo Tracks & Ideas" than to tag each individual file with a static label.

I don't get people like you who don't want options & are short-sighted. If you don't have use for folders in iOS, then don't use them. But why are you against giving people an option? I don't care for iOS third-party keyboards but I get why they may be beneficial to others.
 
I don't understand what the problem is with opening the app first? Doesn't that reduce an extra step and make files easier to find? When I want to open a presentation file i made, I just instinctively open Keynote. Not sure why people are so hung up on using file explorers when all they do is serve as middle men to opening the app anyway.

I do actually see it the other way around.

Apps are secondary. Content is the relevant part.

I don't arrange my files by apps but I arrange them by content. No need to deal with apps, they open automatically when choosing a file to edit.
 
Yet again the Apple cheerleading squad perks up to defend app-centric behavior - and badly I might add. I thought this kind of narrow minded productivity died with Windows 1.0? Some of you obviously don't need to be productive with your files or have dozens of different file formats to deal with for a given project.

And wow. Now I can open Pages and select all my text files. I guess it sucks to be a spreadsheet.
 
I organize everything by topic, go to the folder, click on the file, and it opens, edit it, and save when done.

It's worked great for decades for me, and just simply want to do the same with iCloud Drive.

It seems weird to have to know the app, I organize by topic, not by app.
 
I do actually see it the other way around.

Apps are secondary. Content is the relevant part.

I don't arrange my files by apps but I arrange them by content. No need to deal with apps, they open automatically when choosing a file to edit.

Exactly this
 
How is this even possible? So I can't collectively view all of my files stored in iCloud Drive at once from my phone without going to iCloud.com? If I want to simply browse my files, I'd have to open each app that supports a certain file type, and browse iCloud Drive that way?

Edit: Just some background info...I'm a student, just purchased a retina macbook pro, but decided on the 128gb model. As a result, I plan on using cloud storage for almost everything, especially documents. I've used dropbox for years, as well as one drive (which lags behind dropbox), but since Apple finally implemented true (or so I thought) cloud storage, and because I have an iPad, iPhone 6, Apple Tv, and a Mac, my thought process was to transfer everything over to iCloud drive.

Whats the point if theres no app. Also, how can people compare this to Dropbox. There're not even close currently.
 
The problem with that method is sorting through the hundreds hundreds of entries. They are simply sorted alphabetically. A keychain app (like OSX's app) allows you to quickly search for the entry that you want.

Anyway, that's why I hope that apple develops both a keychain app, and an could drive app soon.

try spotlight search on you iphone since its pretty extensive now. it includes settings.
 
try spotlight search on you iphone since its pretty extensive now. it includes settings.

i just tried it. it does not show keychain entries. i guess it makes sense, as the keychain should be more secure than spotlight.

So far my work around has been to use parallels access to remote into my mac to run it's keychain access app. It's not a prefect solution, but it works for now.

If more apps use both keychain and touch id, then I will hardly ever have to look up the login info anyway, as the app will just pull what it needs to work.
 
Actually it goes a little bit more like this....

The Current Old Way:

1. Open Finder/File Manager (extra middle man step)

2. Find your PDF amongst thousands of Word Docs, Keynote files, videos, images, and the hundreds of other document types that are definitely NOT PDF Files

3. Click on the PDF file you want and it opens the Acrobat app for you




The New Way:

1. Open the Acrobat app ( thus skipping the middle man)

2. Click on the PDF file you want (which is much easier to find since it's just a neatly organized list of all your PDF files)

3. There is no step 3.
I think this makes sense.

Again though, what if I want to see multiple file types at once?
Why though?
 
Cloud Drive Explorer seems to be an interesting app. Ugly UI, but it gets the work done.

Cloud Drive Explorer by Tarek Sakr
https://appsto.re/us/irm82.i

Not sure I would trust a 3rd Party App with my iCloud data. Just saying.


What I find odd though is I was under the impression that I could email any type of file as an attachment due to iCloud drive via iOS. Is that not the case? If I want to email a PDF file via my phone, doesn't seem like an option right now with iCloud Drive. I'm sure I'm misunderstanding the features and capabilities though.
 
I think this makes sense.

Not so much I think. In reality you'll have to remember in which app you put your pdf. Acrobat, Goodreader, Dropbox or in the Documents app? Wherever it is, inside the app you'll still have to look for it among the other pdfs.

Why though?

Dealing with doucments (Text, spreadsheets, presentations, pdf etc.) is fundamentally different than handling consumer content like music and movies.

Imagine you couldn't make playlists in iTunes because every song could only live inside it's album. So why can't I make "playlists" with my other files?

Some documents just belong together regardless of their technical file type.

Jumping from app to app in order to see your document (just because of the file extension) makes no sense to me if I could operate from one single point.
 
It's important to remember...Apple is designing for the uneducated impatient masses. They are dumbing down the software so anyone can easily use it.

Taking control and choices away from us enthusiasts makes the phone appeal to the average person...Apples target market.

Even here you see people saying iPhone is superior to Android because it's simple and easy. The public wants easy. So Apple is dumbing it down for greater sales.

It's a smart move.
 
as they introduced icloud drive i was very happy to replace dropbox...

NOW... icloud drive is just a useless feature. they just want me forced into the apple-enviroment.
 
What I find even more stupid is that iOS apps can only access stuff within their folders.

I, like most people I guess, have things organised in folders, but for iWork on iOS to be able to work properly, I'd have to copy all my pages documents to the pages folder, etc, which IMO is a little stupid.
 
Not so much I think. In reality you'll have to remember in which app you put your pdf. Acrobat, Goodreader, Dropbox or in the Documents app? Wherever it is, inside the app you'll still have to look for it among the other pdfs.



Dealing with doucments (Text, spreadsheets, presentations, pdf etc.) is fundamentally different than handling consumer content like music and movies.

Imagine you couldn't make playlists in iTunes because every song could only live inside it's album. So why can't I make "playlists" with my other files?

Some documents just belong together regardless of their technical file type.

Jumping from app to app in order to see your document (just because of the file extension) makes no sense to me if I could operate from one single point.

The thing you're missing though is that Apple has a solution for that, tags. And it's similar to the way playlists are handled in iTunes, how smart folders work in Mail.app, and how Gmail labels work. Using tags to group projects is actually better than using folders because they are more flexible. We've all had the situation where a file could be placed in multiple folders and you have to decide between them. With tags, that no longer is a problem.

If you notice, adding and editing tags is becoming more and more prominent throughout the Mac's interface with every major update. It's iOS that has been lagging a bit in this area. My guess is iOS 9 is going to fully embrace it. Remember, iCloud Drive is new. But I am certain this is where it's headed.
 
It's important to remember...Apple is designing for the uneducated impatient masses. They are dumbing down the software so anyone can easily use it.

Taking control and choices away from us enthusiasts makes the phone appeal to the average person...Apples target market.

Even here you see people saying iPhone is superior to Android because it's simple and easy. The public wants easy. So Apple is dumbing it down for greater sales.

It's a smart move.

Literally makes no sense. Easy would be making it exactly the same as a computer work. You open up "my documents" and see all your documents. On a computer you don't have to open up word to see all your .doc files or excel to see all your spreadsheets.

Plus on Yosemite, there IS a iCloud drive folder explorer. Why would they have one on Yosemite, and not on iOS. That just makes it more confusing.

Not to mention the fact that on Apple's website, they depict an app that can be used to explore all iCloud files.

https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/icloud-drive/

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The thing you're missing though is that Apple has a solution for that, tags. And it's similar to the way playlists are handled in iTunes, how smart folders work in Mail.app, and how Gmail labels work. Using tags to group projects is actually better than using folders because they are more flexible. We've all had the situation where a file could be placed in multiple folders and you have to decide between them. With tags, that no longer is a problem.

If you notice, adding and editing tags is becoming more and more prominent throughout the Mac's interface with every major update. It's iOS that has been lagging a bit in this area. My guess is iOS 9 is going to fully embrace it. Remember, iCloud Drive is new. But I am certain this is where it's headed.

Even if this was the case, is there an option to view all documents that I have tagged in red, on my phone? If not, then this is a moot point.
 
actually they dont. the "done" button in the top right corner suggests to me that they were using an app like pages to save or open some files.

There are all different file types in there, no? Wouldn't that suggest they aren't using an application (lets say pages) to view them? Plus, the layout of the files matches perfectly with the standalone folder on yosemite that is in the background in the picture.

Edit: Maybe not, the iPad depicts that it is being open from pages.
 
There are all different file types in there, no? Wouldn't that suggest they aren't using an application (lets say pages) to view them? Plus, the layout of the files matches perfectly with the standalone folder on yosemite that is in the background in the picture.

i really hope that this will point to an dedicated app that displays all file types (like dropbox) but as i know apples intentions... there will no such app...


edit: see :-/
 
i really hope that this will point to an dedicated app that displays all file types (like dropbox) but as i know apples intentions... there will no such app...


edit: see :-/

It's just stupid. Even if they were trying to make it "easy" (which I still don't understand), would it really hurt to have a standalone app. I mean I'm pretty sure every other cloud storage service offers one.
 
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