sure they do. thats why i continue using dropbox. just way more userfriendly and handy.
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iCloud Drive lacks a standalone app on iOS 8?
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sure they do. thats why i continue using dropbox. just way more userfriendly and handy.
It seems to me Apple has really made a simple, proven, well-understood concept and tried to turn it into something else.
Folders and files. Windows has had them for decades, and so has OS X. Universally understood. Earlier versions of iOS didn't allow for a viewable file system, and we understood Apple's argument for a walled garden etc.
iCloud Drive on iOS is just a really awkward, unintuitive implementation of a file system.
Folders and files. Windows has had them for decades, and so has OS X. Universally understood. Earlier versions of iOS didn't allow for a viewable file system, and we understood Apple's argument for a walled garden etc.
iCloud Drive on iOS is just a really awkward, unintuitive implementation of a file system.
Nope not even remotely. That's a screen shot of the document picker inside of the iWork apps, and exactly what it could look like inside any third party app that cares to update accordingly.
As it stands at the moment if we have 3 image editing apps (app A, app B, app C) and we create a JPG image for example the image will save in the folder of the app it was created with.
When we come to locate the file in the future which folder do you look in A, B or C? It could be in any because JPG isn't app-specific.
The same could be said for many other files types.
You also have no way of manipulating the files on iOS. No copying. No renaming. No deleting. No re-arranging. No folder creation.
It's a great idea VERY poorly executed.
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Given the limitations and inherent sandboxing nature of iOS, it's an idea that should never have been implemented. There are limits to an operating system that was originally made for a cell phone.
I personally don't understand how to use iCloud Drive. There's nothing intuitive about it. I finally gave up and just went to OneDrive where I got 1TB of storage for a lot less money and MS Office to boot.
Tags... In theory? Good idea. In practice? Doesn't work. It's impossible to remember your entire file organisation and spontaniously apply the right tags consistantly. I've tried it twice before and with the introduction of finder tags.
Yes, folders have the limitation of one-folder-per-file. But what makes them superior to tags (for me) is that they have a structure that guides you through the organisation. Like a map.
My conclusion at this point is that files should be able to be mapped to multiple folders. Like basically folders are tags (tags with hierarchies). So a Numbers document can live in the Numbers app AND in my contextual file structure.
I use that method in Aperture and it is extremely powerful. But I think Apple would consider it as too complicateted so I don't expect to see it on OS X or iOS soon.
If anyone has a working tagging concept, I'm genuinely interested.
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Actually, the scenario you provided works perfectly with iCloud Drive. Any app that can open a JPG will show the JPG in iCloud Drive. And apps like Dropbox that can open any file will likewise show every file you have in iCloud Drive regardless of file type. I believe apps have to enable iCloud Drive support for this to work though so all of your image editors might not yet have access.
I am unable to find this, and of course Googling "iCloud Drive" even with various additions like "app" and "iTunes" doesn't improve things. Also tried "iClouddrive"
Could you provide a link, or the makers name or something.
Thanks
So are we talking about "Cloud Drive Mobile" which links to Cloud Drive and was last updated in 2013, by Catalyst Web Services, whose webs site makes no mention of it.
or Amazon Cloud Drive
or is it really
Cloud Drive Explorer which I already use?
Thanks
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Not sure you understand me.
If you created the file in app A the file will reside in a folder called app A.
If you wanted to find the file to email somebody for example you'd have to potentially look in folders A,B and C to find your file.
My comments, for what they're worth.
On having keychain on the phone: Yes please, the only reason I tried jailbreaking my first iPhone (3GS on iOS6) was because I just stared at it in confusion as I slowly realised there was no way to find out the wifi passwords I had entered. I then became a jailbreaking fan.
On having a cloud drive app: Yes please, as maybe I want to store all my jpegs together, not randomly under whichever application I may have used to create them. Or maybe I want to group a selection of files as they're all related and I'd like to see them all listed. Hell, sometimes I create a document and then forget whether I created it as a document, a powerpoint, a diagram or even a spreadsheet
Anyway, I'm not too fussed as I simply use Dropbox which iCloud seems to have no interest in competing with.
On having keychain on the phone: Yes please, the only reason I tried jailbreaking my first iPhone (3GS on iOS6) was because I just stared at it in confusion as I slowly realised there was no way to find out the wifi passwords I had entered. I then became a jailbreaking fan.
On having a cloud drive app: Yes please, as maybe I want to store all my jpegs together, not randomly under whichever application I may have used to create them. Or maybe I want to group a selection of files as they're all related and I'd like to see them all listed. Hell, sometimes I create a document and then forget whether I created it as a document, a powerpoint, a diagram or even a spreadsheet
Anyway, I'm not too fussed as I simply use Dropbox which iCloud seems to have no interest in competing with.
Another thing... Are you finding the document picker broken?
When I open any app that supports iCloud Drive most of the documents in the folders are blank and many refuse to open if they are compatible but created in another app.
Happens on my iPhone, iPad and my mates can replicate the error too.
I wrote to Readdle who make "Documents" app and they say it's an known iOS 8 bug.... Another one.
When I open any app that supports iCloud Drive most of the documents in the folders are blank and many refuse to open if they are compatible but created in another app.
Happens on my iPhone, iPad and my mates can replicate the error too.
I wrote to Readdle who make "Documents" app and they say it's an known iOS 8 bug.... Another one.
I always assumed that the screenshot on their site was for the document picker (though it was stupid how often they showed that as it seems to be the cause of a lot of confusion).
But when I'm using Pages or Numbers, and open a file, I never see that view. I always see just the Pages folder or Numbers folder, for example.
No one is forcing you to use it. It doesn't work the way I want it to, but I'll just use something else that does. It's no bother really.
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I mean the "concept" of iCloud Drive is not free. When you buy the phone part of the cost is for the software so technically it's not free.
ICloud Drive is a poorly implemented system that could have been so good.
The likes of Dropbox don't have the same system-wide imbedded functionality as iCloud Drive could have had.
ICloud Drive is a poorly implemented system that could have been so good.
The likes of Dropbox don't have the same system-wide imbedded functionality as iCloud Drive could have had.
Use the search field in the App Store, searching for iCloud drive, the app is titled iCloud Drive explorer
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iCloud drive explorer
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I suppose I'm an idiot, as I added a PDF file to iCloud drive, and now I cannot figure out which app in iOS8 will open it. I wrongly assumed iBooks could peruse the iCloud drive and allow me to open it on my iPhone.
Also Sprach apple.com:
To upload your files to iCloud, simply drag them into the iCloud Drive folder on your Mac running OS X Yosemite or PC running Windows 7 or later. Or start a new document using an iCloud-enabled app on your iOS device. Then you’ll be able to access those documents from all your devices.
Also Sprach apple.com:
To upload your files to iCloud, simply drag them into the iCloud Drive folder on your Mac running OS X Yosemite or PC running Windows 7 or later. Or start a new document using an iCloud-enabled app on your iOS device. Then you’ll be able to access those documents from all your devices.
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How is that any worse than having to look through hundreds of folders like we do now? At the end of the day, you still need to remember which folder you placed it in. In both cases I usually prefer doing a search anyway. Especially when you get to the point where you have large numbers of files and the folder system starts to become unwieldy.
And if I want to find an image that I know is somewhere on the web, sure I can do a general Google search. However, if I just start my search from Google Images, I can almost certainly find it quicker.
At this point, the problems are nailing the interface not the general concept itself. Reminds me of the touch revolution the first iPhone brought. It didn't have everything figured out from the beginning. There wasn't even a way to copy and paste. And people had to learn new ways of doing things. But look at what touch has evolved to now.
As AppleTVBob said:
I suppose I'm an idiot, as I added a PDF file to iCloud drive, and now I cannot figure out which app in iOS8 will open it. I wrongly assumed iBooks could peruse the iCloud drive and allow me to open it on my iPhone.
I do understand Apple's strategy to have one app to open one type of files on both OS/X and iOS.
My question is the same: I have a load of PDF files I'd like to be able to open with a kind of Previev app on my iPhone and iPad. But there is none....
Has anybody a hint for me?
Thanks a lot
I suppose I'm an idiot, as I added a PDF file to iCloud drive, and now I cannot figure out which app in iOS8 will open it. I wrongly assumed iBooks could peruse the iCloud drive and allow me to open it on my iPhone.
I do understand Apple's strategy to have one app to open one type of files on both OS/X and iOS.
My question is the same: I have a load of PDF files I'd like to be able to open with a kind of Previev app on my iPhone and iPad. But there is none....
Has anybody a hint for me?
Thanks a lot