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iCloud = No 64GB iPhone?
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In iCloud, all of your purchases are stored there and you can upload up to 50gb of other stuff. So deleting something off of your device does not delete it off iCloud. And my point was Apple wants people using and paying for iCloud storage, and less people would probably pay $100 a year for 50gb if their phone holds more than that.
And I'll admit, I was generalizing, some people may need more than 32gb, but the vast majority of iPhone users don't.
Nope, I think 64GB is a reasonable request, regardless if you have iCloud or not. iCloud isn't a "digital locker," and it doesn't stream (yet!). It simply keeps everything synced. So if you downloaded an App on iTunes you better have enough storage on your iPhone/iPad because it downloads on iDevices the second you download on iTunes.
You can store up to 50gb on iCloud (does not include any iTunes purchases) and you can turn off the automatic download (you can change that now, under store in settings.)
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple doesn't update the iPod touch this year either. Seems to be iPod touches will run its course like the iPod classic did. iCloud is where it is at when it comes to another path for a new income flow. Apple is not going to cater to just a small crowd of packrats who needs to carry everything with them at all times. Increasing storage hurts their cloud service business.
I would love to see Apple bring out the 3GS (8GB) at $200 no contract and FREE with contract. This would bring many smartphones' cost down. No longer do we have to keep paying a new smartphone for $300-$700 anymore. $200 is the mass market price point like in video game consoles.
I would love to see Apple bring out the 3GS (8GB) at $200 no contract and FREE with contract. This would bring many smartphones' cost down. No longer do we have to keep paying a new smartphone for $300-$700 anymore. $200 is the mass market price point like in video game consoles.
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Especially the low market demand. The MacRumors posters who are asking for 64 GB is not a big market for them. Apple goes where the money is at.
I see them maybe updating to 64 GB just once. Maybe to match the offering of the Nokia N9. But after that, the new business model will revolve around cloud service. A 64 GB iPhone if it ever happens could be the highest Apple will ever go. No 128 GB or beyond after that.
It is completely impossible to cater to everyone's needs. You would need a terabyte of storage just to please some people here. HD conversions are huge files. Games put in higher-res also won't help. More convenient if they were just stored in the cloud than trying to cater the very few OCD/packrats who needs over 1TB of storage because not having a couple episodes of their fav shows or not having a couple hundred songs on their phone is going to make a huge difference with their lives.
64 GB could be the last of its kind. And it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't update it after 32 either. The next big emphasis is getting more people to buy into iCloud.
I have a 64GB iPad and have filled it up easily. Throw every photo you own on there (more than 10GB), put every song you own on there (more than 40GB) and you're already almost at capacity. I don't put all of my music on there, but I'd love to be able to do that on my iPhone.
Did I mention apps? Anybody else got a 1.25GB GPS app? Seen the size of a lot of game apps? I have had to delete a LOT of apps from my phone because of *just* having 32GB.
iCloud doesn't necessarily help with this. I'm not going to always be in a WiFi area to download these game files that are hundreds of megabytes. If I could download them over 3G, my data limit would be gone extra quickly. Cloud computing is about having access to all of your stuff. Local disk/flash storage is about having QUICK access to your stuff.
On a side note, when I saw the mockup of the iPhone 5 that looks a little bit larger, part of me thought this might be to fit in the same amount of flash storage that Apple does in the iPod touch and iPad. Therefore a 64GB iPhone would be much simpler and probably cheaper. I don't know if flash is compact enough to go to a 128GB iPhone, but I know for sure I'd love to have me one of those.
Did I mention apps? Anybody else got a 1.25GB GPS app? Seen the size of a lot of game apps? I have had to delete a LOT of apps from my phone because of *just* having 32GB.
iCloud doesn't necessarily help with this. I'm not going to always be in a WiFi area to download these game files that are hundreds of megabytes. If I could download them over 3G, my data limit would be gone extra quickly. Cloud computing is about having access to all of your stuff. Local disk/flash storage is about having QUICK access to your stuff.
On a side note, when I saw the mockup of the iPhone 5 that looks a little bit larger, part of me thought this might be to fit in the same amount of flash storage that Apple does in the iPod touch and iPad. Therefore a 64GB iPhone would be much simpler and probably cheaper. I don't know if flash is compact enough to go to a 128GB iPhone, but I know for sure I'd love to have me one of those.
I've HEARD (though haven't confirmed) that because of the phone/micro sim/bigger camera, Apple can only fit one flash chip in each unit, so until there's a 128 gb flash chip I don't think that will happen.
To all those saying that 16gb is plenty, you're generalising. It may be plenty for you.
I would definitely welcome a 64gb iPhone.
It's very easy to fill these days if you use the phone the way it was intended.
Downloading apps, especially game apps, photos, videos and music can be very storage sapping.
Personally, I have a lot of music which I like to play in my car. 32gb is not enough for me. I'm often deleting things to make way for other things. And I'm not interested in iCloud in any way, thanks.
I would definitely welcome a 64gb iPhone.
It's very easy to fill these days if you use the phone the way it was intended.
Downloading apps, especially game apps, photos, videos and music can be very storage sapping.
Personally, I have a lot of music which I like to play in my car. 32gb is not enough for me. I'm often deleting things to make way for other things. And I'm not interested in iCloud in any way, thanks.
I never said it was cheap to produce and I agree with you, they wouldn't make something most people could not afford, hence the "demand is not high enough to justify the production cost and volume". Although it would be nice for videos, photos and for me, especially games.
im with this person. not everybody is as frugal with their memory space as subway is with flavor. some people acctually play games, or convert dvds, or buy tons of tv shows, or are obsessed with collecting every album made by artists they like. whats more, they prefer to keep it with them for travel and stuff. itd be a little tiring carying a whole laptop around 24/7! even with a mba.
I'm still not sure that you fully understand how iCloud works. The vast majority of space on people's devices are filled with music and movies, which are a pain to delete and re-download, but generally don't count against your space anyway. So even if you have 1TB of iTunes music and movies, Apple isn't going to get any more money from you regardless of how much storage your iPhone has. If anything, they should prefer that you have a large device so that you aren't inclined to re-download stuff all of the time and waste their bandwidth.
The rest of that space is mostly filled with app data, which you can't just move to and from iCloud at will. Specifically, there are two ways to get app data onto your iCloud storage. The first is by backing up the app to the cloud as part of your device backup. You can pick and choose which apps get backed up, but if you delete the app and its data off of your device, it will also be removed from the backup the next time that happens. In any case, the only way to restore that data is to restore your whole device. The other way to get app data for a particular app onto iCloud is to use it to sync the data across devices. In this case, iCloud is just there to mirror the documents that exist in a particular app, so deleting a document from one device should delete it from the cloud as well. In all cases, you can't just delete some app data from your device and expect to be able to recover it from iCloud at will.
iCloud is not just arbitrary storage that you can manually manage.
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This is all SO ridiculous that I don't even know where to start. I'll just leave it at that and let it speak for itself. Obviously someone who spends NO time with media.
Tony
Being a 32 gig iPhone user, I have to say that I have no need for any more storage. I dont see why anyone would really need a 64 gig iPhone. If you have more than 32 gigs of music/ videos, just sync less of that content onto your phone, very few people really need to have more than 32 gigs of content with them all the time, for most people it just isn't nessisary.
My iPad on the other hand...
My iPad on the other hand...
So, I guess there's no reason for any of the iPods Classics that were greater than 32 GB to ever exist.
Tony
So, I guess there's no reason for any of the iPods Classics that were greater than 32 GB to ever exist.
Tony
Excellent point.
It's an opinion, opinions can be disproven but if you were to survey the country 16 GB is more than enough for a rather large part of the population.
^There, most consumers are like him/her we aren't music freaks, movie hoarders, 8GB is enough and we should appreciate that iPhone 4 is currently 16/32 instead of 8/16.
Great post, Apple will only be able to cater to the majority of the population, they certainly won't be able to produce a mass storage iPhone just because 1% of iPhone users need it.
16/32 already covers most people's media.
So, I guess there's no reason for any of the iPods Classics that were greater than 32 GB to ever exist.
Tony
You are right, It will take be at least a couple of years to even reach 20GB of music let alone 32.
You are either being really sarcastic or 10 years old. Or you just don't like media or need a media device. So buy something else. Maybe a prepaid free phone.
Consumers of media like MANY of us need more capacity. The old 120+ iPods were pretty darn good sellers before the iPhone was even conceived.
Tony
My gods, some of you people need to think a little bit! Use your brains!
We are all different!
We all have different needs!
To one person, a 4GB iPhone is plenty! To another, they could have a 64GB and still be full!
I have a 32GB iPhone with 28GB of stuff on it. Memory is always tight, I can't even film too much video or I risk filling it up.
That's why Apple offers different memory sizes. I mean, isn't this obvious? Or are all of you "16GB is enough for anyone har har" people just trolling?
We are all different!
We all have different needs!
To one person, a 4GB iPhone is plenty! To another, they could have a 64GB and still be full!
I have a 32GB iPhone with 28GB of stuff on it. Memory is always tight, I can't even film too much video or I risk filling it up.
That's why Apple offers different memory sizes. I mean, isn't this obvious? Or are all of you "16GB is enough for anyone har har" people just trolling?
Exactly!
I travel a lot. Having things on my iPhone makes that a lot easier.
I don't insist that you follow MY particular approach to memory management. Please don't insist that I follow yours.
Multiple memory amounts with an associated cost is something I am willing to accept. I just hope Apple hears that there IS a need and is able to accommodate that need in the next release.
iCloud couldn't replace local storage on a phone, we simply don't have fast enough networks nor unlimited data nor enough coverage to fully replace local storage. And 64 GB chips should be out soon. http://www.toshiba.com/taec/news/press_releases/2011/memy_11_608.jsp
So I think there will be a 64 GB iPhone. Maybe a 128 GB iPod touch, if we're lucky.
So I think there will be a 64 GB iPhone. Maybe a 128 GB iPod touch, if we're lucky.
Guy 3: Another guy is saying 640k is enough for anybody. I think we should only sell a 640k iPhone.
iCloud definitely gives more reason to increase the physical storage. Being able to download previously purchased TV shows, music and apps, along with user content like photos and video taken with the iPhone camera is eating away at the current 32GB limit. There is definitely demand for a higher capacity device.
I hope Apple does release a 64GB but if they don't release one it won't be because of iCloud but rather because the cost for a single chip 64GB module hasn't reached a low enough point for them to maintain their current profit margins.
I hope Apple does release a 64GB but if they don't release one it won't be because of iCloud but rather because the cost for a single chip 64GB module hasn't reached a low enough point for them to maintain their current profit margins.
Exactly, I'm sure these people hate having higher capacity in their computers, blank DVDs instead of blank CDs and any portable device larger than 4GB. It's also hilarious, because even if you just use your phone for apps/movies (that you record) and pics, you're going to run out of space on even 32GB phone pretty damn quick. I'm not telling everyone to have 90GB+ music libraries like myself, I'm just saying that more storage never hurt anyone, and if you can't understand that, I'm not sure what to say to you.