The aspect ratio is different in the second picture.
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Icon Depicting Design of Upcoming iPad Pro Models Discovered in iOS 12 Beta 5
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But just so ever slightly, and within the margin of error for such tiny icons. The first one in your post works out to approximately 4.2:3 (12.6:9) and the second one works out to 4.0:3 (12.0:9). So basically, 4:3. No where close to the 16:9 of an iPhone 8 or 19:9 of an iPhone X.
Thanks for the link, it also led me to the article with Kuo’s report on July 11. He’s reasonably reliable, and his iPad info is consistent with the Mac Otakara rumor. Both agree the 10.5” iPad Pro is becoming 11”.
Using the physical size of this new 11” iPad Pro as reported, we can estimate the screen size. The iPhone X notch is about 9mm, and it seems the iPad bezel would need to be similar. If we subtract 9mm bezels from the rumored physical size of 247.5mm x 178.7mm, we get dimensions of 229.5mm x 160.7mm for the screen. That’s a 10:7 aspect ratio.
Based on the 10:7 aspect ratio, 264 ppi and an 11.0” diagonal, it seems 2380 x 1666 would be the most likely resolution for the 11.0” Pro. That would make the screen size 229mm x 160.3mm (about 15mm taller than the current 10.5” model).
Looking at the 12.9”... from the rumored physical dimensions of 280mm x 215mm, subtracting the bezels gives a display size of approx. 262mm x 197mm, which is a 4:3 aspect ratio.
The actual measurements of the current 12.9” iPad Pro screen are 262.85 x 197.95. So if the rumored dimensions are correct, there will be no change in the size of the 12.9” model’s display.
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I would just point out that if you convert 10:7 to the closest standard aspect ratio it is 4:3 (4.3:3 to be exact). It doesn’t appear, with very limited evidence, that the new iPads will change aspect ratios in any substantial way as the iPhone X did.
If the rumored physical size is correct—and the bezels are equal in thickness on all four sides—the display can’t be 4:3, nor can it be 10.5.”
Physical width minus bezels equal display width, and physical height minus bezels equals display height. If the rumor is right about the overall size, the aspect ratio is 10:7 and it is an 11.0” display. And the bezel width is about 9mm.
But it really isn’t a very big change, as you note. The display width stays the same, and it gains about half an inch in height. Basically, the current top and bottom bezels are so large that Apple had to add display height to get rid of them (which also increases the diagonal from 10.5” to 11.0”).
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I never said that it's close to 16:9 etc . Just that it is different. It could be an imprecision in the icon, like you said. Sure. But generally Apple is very careful with these details. So, let's wait and see. I bet on a slightly different screen ratio.
Easier to handle the device. Edge touch rejection isn’t reliable, especially when apps have buttons along the edge, and I don’t want to cover any of the screen with my fingers.
While its easier on the iPad, try re-inputting your passcode each time you pickup your cellphone. You will understand the problem, and it gets annoying that there is an actually a very good solution for it that was implemented but has been taken out. If they just put the finger id somewhere else like on the side or the back then the problem will be solved.
It doesn't have to be ON THE SCREEN.
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Companies that get too powerful and have significant market share, you don't really have an option. If you don't like your car, there are tens of other options that you could choose from. If you don't like iOS, there is only Android.
Take for example Instagram. A lot of people today make a living off Instagram, if Instagram does something they don't like they will have to live with it. There is no other option. They rely on it too much. Compare that to a hosting company, if I don't like Godadady, I can switch to BlueHost or Dreamhost or 1&1 or Hostagator...there are many options and it will not hurt me to switch over.
In Apple's case, software you bought and media locks you in their product line. If you bought movies off iTunes, now you are stuck with Apple TV whatever it is and however it is. The other option is to rebuy the whole library from another digital store. If say Apple would actually allow you to access your iTunes library from a different device like Roku or Xbox, then its a different argument.
Good work. Just for fun I played around with the dimensions (old and new) to visualise the change in footprint as the render in the 9to5Mac article looked a little off relative to one another and didn't reflect the new dimensions. I also scaled up the new icon and it's a very close fit for the new 11 inch. It's obviously not perfect given the extremely low resolution. It ultimately leaves me with this unanswered question. Would Apple really release two iPads with different aspect ratios? I guess time will tell
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I use a desktop with 40” monitor, ipad 12.9, iphone se, and AW S1. I have a mbp 13’ retina and really don’t like it at all. If I need to do real work — I need a real monitor. If I’m browsing - a tablet rules. The phone is for making calls and a transportable ipad. We don’t travel much. I guess it depends on your use-case.
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I’ve been training myself to stop using the home button on my ipad 12.9. I really like the gestures in ios 12 - it works for me. Every time I press the home button I worry it will break.
First off, what’s wrong with being 70? I’m and I’m a bigger geek than many half my age! Love advancements in tech and have no problem adjusting to new ways of doing things.
The side bezels on the current 10.5 inch iPad Pro are in the region of 7mm. To maintain uniformity around all edges Apple may increase to approx 9mm (depth of notch on iPhone X) which would cleanly house the TrueDepth camera system on the iPad without the need for notches
That’s assuming there’s been no development on the TrueDepth system. Maybe it’s smaller.
If the rumored dimensions are correct, the answer is yes
At first I thought, why would they do that? But it is Apple-like when you think about it. If they had kept the old aspect ratio and the 10.5” screen, the width was still going to have to increase by about 4.5mm anyway; the side bezels had to grow to match the new top/bottom bezels.So the question is, do they keep the old aspect ratio and decrease the height 18mm? Or do they keep the physical size relatively constant, decrease the height by only 3mm, but tweak the aspect ratio a bit so that they can fit in a larger screen?
They chose the latter, giving the new model a screen that’s 6% bigger while still decreasing the largest dimension. It’s counter-intuitive to think that a “more rectangular” screen is actually a better fit to a physical size that is actually becoming more square—but it is. It really just boils down to, the old top and bottom bezels were so huge, they had to add screen height to get rid of them.
btw it seems your leftmost diagram is the new vs old 12.9”, true? That thing is going to look amazing with the smaller bezels. Even though they’re the same as those on the 11.0”, relative to the screen they’ll basically disappear. Ive’s “sheet of glass” realized, essentially.
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Indeed, missed this point from my post
Correct - if these dimensions pan out it'll be hard to resist going for the 12.9"
Given the rumored physical dimensions and the 11.0” screen, it appears the bezels are about the same thickness as the bezel at the X’s notch area.
If they had managed to shrink the height requirement of the sensor area, and thus the minimum bezel, they’d be able to fit a 11.1/11.2” screen in the rumored physical package.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just not consistent with the current rumor.
Oh I’m not saying I’m right
, was just a possibility that I wanted to throw out there. Have no evidence pro or con
I’m sure the sensor area will decrease in size, it matters more for iPhone than iPad.Oh I’m not saying I’m right
re:iPhone, I don’t think all those sensors will ever go underneath the screen. I think the notch just keeps getting smaller until it disappears into a minimal bezel, maybe 3mm or so.
Interesting possibility. I don’t use the 9.7/10.5 iPads but I wish they would do that for the mini. I find its side bezels annoyingly thin. 12.9 is good for me as is; I hold that differently.
So does the iPhone, although removing notch on iPhone will take lots of extra efforts and engineering.
So does the iPhone what?
People were saying since the Status Bar is split in iOS 12 it must be because of the notch, completely forgetting that you can rotate the iPad Home Screen in every direction. By that logic hat would result in the status bar being below the Dock if held upside down. There's also no need for a notch on the iPad because there's enough space in the remaining bezel to house the Face ID components. That's not the case on the iPhone.
I am really hoping that the next version keeps a 10"ish screen but packs it into a frame the size of the original ipad pro. One of the things that kept me from going from the 9.7 to the 10.5 is the increase in both physical size and weight. If they return to the 9.7 physical dims I will update but for me bigger/heavier isn't better.