If iOS.5 doesn't get a home screen overhaul, I'm switching to Android

[bufffilm]

I'm just saying that, anyone who wants to use their full potential would never in a million years use an iDevice.

trying to apply Maslow's Hierarchy theory to the iOS and Andriod debate and what kind of users favor which device is completely ludicrious on several levels.

i nether agree to vrDrew's assertion [that a fully self-actualized person would not use an android] nor yours [that a fully self-actualized person would not use an ipad].

it's nutty how people are way over-analyzing this and attempting to pigeon-hole ipad and androids users into convenient categories to support their own POV and argument.

 

[Piggie]

trying to apply Maslow's Hierarchy theory to the iOS and Andriod debate and what kind of users favor which device is completely ludicrious on several levels.

i nether agree to vrDrew's assertion [that a fully self-actualized person would not use an android] nor yours [that a fully self-actualized person would not use an ipad].

it's nutty how people are way over-analyzing this and attempting to pigeon-hole the ipad and androids users into convenient categories to support their own POV.

All I am saying is, in the REAL WORLD where you want to have no restrictions, you would not tie yourself down to an iDevice or anything Android come to that.

It's like being at work, you have a boss that's screaming at you to get something done. You don't want ANY restrictions at all, you need to be able to do anything. You can't say sorry boss, we will not get the multi million dollar contract as my computer does not run that software, or I can't access that web site.
Like a car garage, you want all the tools in the toolbox to work on anything.

That's the real world.

It's ok for people at home as they can modify their needs and requirements to fit in with what a device will or won't do.

I can say, oh I don't like Flash and it does not bother me if I can't access flash sites. But in business with money riding on things, you need to be able to access anything at any time.

 

[bufffilm]

i get what you're saying and don't disagree.

but the fact that you find the ipad is limiting to you in areas that hurts your productivity might not be limiting to an ipad user whose usage profile is different than yours.

it goes the other way too. i've come across android users who are happy using their tablet pretty much out of the box without any customizations, tweaks, or hacks, which is contrary to the opinions of many pro-apple users who claim that android tablets only appeal to hackers, or tech geeks because they want to customize the hell out of it.

All I am saying is, in the REAL WORLD where you want to have no restrictions, you would not tie yourself down to an iDevice or anything Android come to that.

It's like being at work, you have a boss that's screaming at you to get something done. You don't want ANY restrictions at all, you need to be able to do anything. You can't say sorry boss, we will not get the multi million dollar contract as my computer does not run that software, or I can't access that web site.
Like a car garage, you want all the tools in the toolbox to work on anything.

That's the real world.

It's ok for people at home as they can modify their needs and requirements to fit in with what a device will or won't do.

I can say, oh I don't like Flash and it does not bother me if I can't access flash sites. But in business with money riding on things, you need to be able to access anything at any time.

 

[vrDrew]

What I don't get about the above is, according to that, you would not buy an iPad in the 1st place.

You would want to do anything to it's full potential and not be limited in any way, which by definition would mean a windows based laptop as it would give you the most open system and broadest range or possibilities and software available...

I don't think you really understand what "self-actualization" means.

It certainly doesn't mean wanting to have the ability to do everything. And a self-actualized person understands their own limitations. A great watercolor painter, for example, may have discovered that his work in oils or pastels isn't very good. So he doesn't waste a lot of time doing them. The self-actualized person recognizes his own limitations, and instead concentrates on his strengths.

Read this LA Times story about artist David Hockney:

The art-making medium he's using most often these days is the iPad, brother to the iPhone, which he took up earlier. Whether he's lying in bed or driving through snow-covered woods, his ever-ready iPhone and iPad are instant drawing pads, always by his side. The electronic duo keeps him in touch with not only his craft but a small group of friends and colleagues who regularly receive his colorful missives of landscapes, flowers, cap or ashtray.

Try painting with your fingertips on the screen of your Windows laptop.

I cannot imagine David Hockney is even vaguely interested in poking through a hierarchical file system. He's not interested in widgets that interrupt his work to let him know when its raining. And he's got less than zero interest in rummaging around the internet for the latest version of Google's semi-functional operating system.

He just want something that works the way HE DOES.

 

[blackNBUK]

i get what you're saying and don't disagree.

but the fact that you find the ipad is limiting to you in areas that hurts your productivity might not be limiting to an ipad user whose usage profile is different than yours.

it goes the other way too. i've come across android users who are happy using their tablet pretty much out of the box without any customizations, tweaks, or hacks, which is contrary to the opinions of many pro-apple users who claim that android tablets only appeal to hackers, or tech geeks because they want to customize the hell out of it.

I would add that removing limitations isn't normally a win-win situation. Often removing a limitation will make a system harder to use. For example, take adding a full-size USB port to the iPad. It throws up a number of follow-on questions.

• Which USB devices should be supported?
• Do you allow third party drivers?
• How do you protect the iPad from unstable third party drivers?
• If you don't allow third party drivers, how do you communicate what is and isn't supported?
• How much power should the USB port supply?
• How do you protect people's battery life if they leave something plugged in?

The simple looking act of adding a USB port has also added a whole bunch of complexity. Experienced users will be able to deal with the complexity very easily but a lot of people find dealing with this sort of stuff very frustrating. It breaks Apple's "it just works" promise.

Ultimately designing a system like the iPad is a balance between features and complexity, and what is best for the audience you have in mind. Apple's audience is obviously the mainstream, non-technical crowd so Apple will tend to choose simplicity over removing limitations.

 

[InsanelyApple]

 

[Carouser]

Bufffilm is correct; usage profile matters. vrDrew is correct; self-actualization is not about having no limits. I want something to let me get the job done as well as possible; not every option someone can think of. Not to mention that 'multimillion dollar software doesn't even run on consumer-grade hardware. Also, it's pretty funny that Piggie's example of the person who wants zero limitations has a boss, of all things, instead of being self-employed or living off a residual income. I also think he's never spoken to a specialized mechanic or an upper-tier chef.

 

[henchman]

I look at the image you posted and it's way too busy for my tastes.

busy?
Like having 120 icon puked all over your desktop isnt busy?

 

[henchman]

I don't understand how some of you use your tablets.

I use mine a lot.
My biggest pet peeve is that I can't simply lift the magnetic lock cover, and immediately see my schedule of the day, the weather and time clearly displayed, and a display of recent emails.

 

[bpear96]

I also want a home screen overhaul, i think apple should go like android with a main home page with widgets and favourite apps and then a app "draw" with apples grid system like in 4.0