It is still irrelevant to 99.999% of people because they will not routinely need such bandwidth.
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If the next MBP doesnt have i5, Blu Ray & ATI say goodbye to highend consumers Apple!
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It is still irrelevant to 99.999% of people because they will not routinely need such bandwidth.
There was a statistic the other day that said 90% of all computers over USD1000 that were sold were Macs. Just because you have 1000 to blow on a laptop doesn't mean you are a power user.
As much as I would like to see people boycott the MBP should Apple decide not to give us our money's worth in hardware, there will still be people who buy it on looks and brand alone and the MBP will still sell like hotcakes.
As much as I would like to see people boycott the MBP should Apple decide not to give us our money's worth in hardware, there will still be people who buy it on looks and brand alone and the MBP will still sell like hotcakes.
1. think dinamically: already during the lifecicle of the new MBP there will be ~ten(s) % who will have the new HD cams - since average lifecicle of the cams is of about one year and the formar standarts (not HD) simply are nearly discontinued. these customers (like i am) will need to backup hundreeds of giga. the big portion of (high end) mac users are btw videoamateurs. also, the mountage of eSATA ouputs costs nearly nothing for the developers - not more costly than USB2. if apple are not idiots they will provide eSATA (or something better like SATA 6Gb) in this generation of MBP.
2.during this year SSD drives (~160 gb) will be affordable - this will make even more sense for eSATA externals.
I really doubt that those HD video cameras will have that much penetration. Look at how things are now; it just isn't going to happen. Obviously this is important to you, so good luck with it.
LOL, rice.
I agree. I'm also in the video industry and drobos are the way to go. HDD space is actually cheaper than bluray discs lawl
it already happened this year: the HD cams nearly replaced usual ones when the prices for prosumer HD cams dropped below 1000$ and when the SD cards dropped below 100$ for 32 Gb. just look at the webpages of the major camcorder vendors: the product line is almost replaced by the HD standard. almost all new cams in the shops are the HD ones - just walk to Mediamarkt tomorrow.
depends on what you're using the storage for...
i wouldn't want to edit off of it, but it's adequate for mass media storage/streaming.
wake up, even crap like acer and asus put BR on their budget laptops. and apple never oreinted on the mainstream - the enthusiasts brought most of the profits to it. and now they want BR
PS tested BR on our family Dell XPS 16 on its 1080p and also on external LED TV. the difference (to DVD) is just stunning.
Blu Ray is not coming to the mac, so just buy a new Vaio with w7ista now, this is already known.
However, it is a wonder to me why anyone would want a blu ray player in a notebook, people who like Blu Ray are like people who wear namebrand socks. The noticeable quality difference just seems so unworth it to me, especially on a notebook. I wish the tech world would follow in the footsteps of the general public, and unite to ignore Blu Ray until it is Blu in the face.
However, it is a wonder to me why anyone would want a blu ray player in a notebook, people who like Blu Ray are like people who wear namebrand socks. The noticeable quality difference just seems so unworth it to me, especially on a notebook. I wish the tech world would follow in the footsteps of the general public, and unite to ignore Blu Ray until it is Blu in the face.
BR on a laptop is not for the laptop's screen but rather for the external HD monitors. This is much more verstile than the dedicated BR player - especially if one has a BR burner on the laptop.
I honestly do not get what the hell is the deal with blu-ray
Want to store files? Get a portable hard drive, thumb drive, drop box account, adrive account etc.
Want to watch movies? Stream them.
Optical drive is pointless the space should be used for an extra battery or to make lighter.
Want to store files? Get a portable hard drive, thumb drive, drop box account, adrive account etc.
Want to watch movies? Stream them.
Optical drive is pointless the space should be used for an extra battery or to make lighter.
1. streaming HD movies: by far not everyone have sufficient brodband.
2. examples for the BR need: rent BR HD discs, send the BR disc with own HD movies to relatives etc.:
the physiscal transportation of media if the sufficient broadband is not available or internet transfer is inconvenient.
People who are not exposed to the technology will never understand it. Simple as that. I seriously believe in about 3-5 years from now, threads like these will be something to just look back and laugh at. People that were once such negative naysayers of the technology will finally shut up and accept it as the market has. I really, truly take blu-ray bashing with a grain of salt these days., as they are mostly from individuals who don't even own blu-ray or have never experienced it.
The market will sort everyone out in time. And the market will sort Apple out. Steve Jobs has leverage in the industry for sure, but when the entire market is progressing towards one goal, theres nothing stopping it. Unless like Moses, he can magically open up the waves of bandwidth and bring forth blazing fibre optic speeds to every suburban neighborhood in the US, then digital downloads just may have a chance. Just maybe.
The market will sort everyone out in time. And the market will sort Apple out. Steve Jobs has leverage in the industry for sure, but when the entire market is progressing towards one goal, theres nothing stopping it. Unless like Moses, he can magically open up the waves of bandwidth and bring forth blazing fibre optic speeds to every suburban neighborhood in the US, then digital downloads just may have a chance. Just maybe.
as i said, the quality deifferencs between true HD on BR and DVD is noticeble (there are a lot of tests around, but i just trust to my vision). furthermoe, the video even on HD prosumer cams is already compressed seriuosly. so your offer to cram HD video to the DVD size is equal to get rid of the HD standard
I didn't mean compress the video to MPEG2 used by DVDs but use the DVD as simply a data disc and pack the HD video in 1080p or 720p res into any of the various MPEG-4 containers and it will fit nicely since an hour of 720p quality vid fits into about 1.4 GB.
Don't take me wrong, I have nothing against BluRay at all and certainly prefer it to DVD, but realistically seeing a BluRay burner on a Macbook isn't happening until they become cheaper. Most people don't have a huge need to burn Blurays. A BluRay player/DVD burner combo drive would be nice to have though.
As for eSATA, you won't see it on Macs because Apple generally likes to have multi-purpose ports on their machines. eSATA is only good for connecting storage devices whereas FireWire and USB can be used for anything from external drives to audio interfaces to videocams to input devices.
you can also download them too
Even if I did why would I want to lug around a bunch of discs with me on the go?
^ oh so this is your point???
Got a question for you... How many times in the past month have you used your optical drive?
Several times and only to watch movies and TV series on my Blu-rays and DVDs while I'm traveling. I use portable BR connected via USB (via Win 7 BC) I'd be fine if the optical was removed and an ext option was available. I'm used to carrying it with me.
Cheers,
A lot, mainly its for DVD movies (NOT download), installing applications (Don't see why i should download the application i already have).
I've read up more on GPUs, and I've come to the conclusion that Nvidia's low voltage laptop GPUs this generation are complete garbage. For the amount of power they consume, the ATI 58XX series is FAR better than anything Nvidia is offering. I was hoping they would unveil something decent to go with their Optimus reveal but was sorely mistaken.
So, ATI or bust, who's with me?
So, ATI or bust, who's with me?
Hardly ever. Only when I feel like playing Halo, or a random episode of Looney Tunes from the Golden Collection DVDs. Give me a blu-ray drive however....
You didn't ask this from me, but I think I know where you're headed with this. I do own a PS3 and massive collection of one Bluray-movie. Even if I had more I wouldn't want to watch them on the go, as I have not previously watched DVDs. Only benefit from a Bluray-drive that I see would be that I would be free to switch my PS3 for a XBOX360 if I wanted, other than that nah.
In my opinion Apple could spend their money far better on this machine than on BR. Put in a better graphics card, faster processor, more RAM, SSD-drives or lower the price. I would be happy if Apple offered the MBP with a bluray drive with the free option of replacing it with a ~60G SSD-drive. That way you'd have a fast OS drive and large drive for other data. The movie freaks would also get their BR.