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I hate AT&T.

Why?

Because you received a $300 subsidy on your iPhone 3G and magically expect ATT to give you another one and take ANOTHER loss on the initial equipment purchase even though you've only been in contract a year?

Consider it a home loan. You don't take out a mortgage (receiving the initial subsidy for the purchase of an expensive phone) and then get to get an entirely new mortgage without paying off the original one.
 
Why?

Because you received a $300 subsidy on your iPhone 3G and magically expect ATT to give you another one and take ANOTHER loss on the initial equipment purchase even though you've only been in contract a year?

Consider it a home loan. You don't take out a mortgage (receiving the initial subsidy for the purchase of an expensive phone) and then get to get an entirely new mortgage without paying off the original one.

Purchasing a phone compared to an investment such as a house where homes actually appreciate in value whereas a phone depreciates.. hmm where does that logic fail?

I'm disappointed that I don't get to upgrade for a reasonable price considering I'm forced to be strapped down to their monthly internet charge, but I'm in the minority to really care that much to upgrade for the price difference. Business is business.. Apple is no exception now.
 
I read it.

You are WRONG.

This is why I am personally "whining."

I have a 3G that I payed FULL PRICE for because I wasn't elligable last year on launch day. Last I checked, it is more than 6 months from the last launch.

I am still getting quoted the HIGHER prices while others aren't. ($599/$699)

So can't I "whine?"

Just a little? :D

Because you didn't pay the full price for the iPhone 3G on launch day. It was impossible to pay the full, no-commitment price for the iPhone 3G on launch day. The only options were: subsidized price for new subscribers, subsidized price for upgrade-eligible existing subscriber, and a couple of tiers of reduced subsidies for upgrade-ineligible existing subscribers.

The full, no-commitment, unsubsidized option for the iPhone 3G only came into existence earlier this spring in the March/April timeframe.

All iPhone 3G's sold in the United States prior to March 2009 came with a mandatory 2-year commitment and with either a full subsidy or a reduced subsidy. But all were subsidized, and all involved rolling you account over to a brand new 2-year contract and resetting your upgrade eligibility date.
 
My only question is:

If I'm paying $699, why do I still need a new 2 year contract? Doesn't it make much more sense to just continue my current contract?
 
My only question is:

If I'm paying $699, why do I still need a new 2 year contract? Doesn't it make much more sense to just continue my current contract?

According to Apple's web site as of 15 minutes ago, yes, the $699 price also requires rolling your account over into a new 2-year contract.

According to Gizmodo, who claims to have received their information direct from AT&T, no, the $699 price is commitment-free, which would imply that you could just use the phone on your existing plan without affecting your contract expiry date or any future upgrade eligibility.
 
Here's my question...

My wife and I are on a family plan. I have a 3G purchased on launch day '08. She has a 2G purchased on launch day '07. For some reason, my upgrade date is 3/12/2010. She is eligible to upgrade now. She doesn't want the new iPhone, but of course I do. Can I buy a 3GS, pretend it's for her so we get the lower price, then just later swap the SIM cards? Is there any down side to doing this?

Thanks!

Yes you can. I spoke to a rep last night. Your wife will just have the extra 2 yrs on her contract.
 
Purchasing a phone compared to an investment such as a house where homes actually appreciate in value whereas a phone depreciates.. hmm where does that logic fail?
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Hmm...wrong assumption on housing prices. You must think like those Wall Street investors who always thought home prices appreciates and nobody every defaults on their mortgages.

Why don't you just sell your current iphone 3g (or any other phone) to subidize the purchase of the new iPhone 3G S.

That's what I did. I sold my iPhone 3G and with the money I got, I pre-ordered the new iPhone 3G S.
 
Welcome to reality folks. You must have seen this coming, unless you were one of those in dreamland. You signed a two year contract, received a subsidized phone. Less than a year later, you want another subsidy? Dream on. Those of us on this board with common sense knew it was not going to happen. Others felt "oh its apple, its different, they will reward us early adopters" please. Once you've signed that contract, the carrier has you and doesn't need to please you. The new iphone announced was sugar on a candy stick to my friends who never owned the iphone (apples target), who will now be picking one up, with better camera, video etc and 32gb for the same price I paid for my 16gb. Thats the way it works. Wake up wake up, and grow up.
 
The Cost to Upgrade is at Most $175

I bought the iPhone on May 22 for $199 and will be eligible under the 30 day buyer's remorse to return the phone to either - rebuy it for $99 or buy the 3GS for $199; however, I will have to go in store and probably have to pay a restocking fee. I explained that this will be a hassle for them and me, but they were not willing to just refund me $100 or preorder the new phone for me.

No big deal, but still kind of silly. Also reading over the fine print - AT&T apparently drops the price to discontinue service on a month by month basis it starts at $175 and drops $5 per month - SO it seems like the most cost efficient method may be for users to drop AT&T entirely and just resign. It will be a nightmare for AT&T logistically, but hey, they put themselves in that position. Here is the language from my contract:

"An early termination fee of $175 applies if service is terminated before the end of the contract term and will be reduced by $5 for each full month toward your minimum term that you complete."

So if you really need to upgrade payay your termination fee which at most is $170 (because otherwise you would be in the 30 day buyer remorse period like me) and get your new phone.
 
Here's my question...

My wife and I are on a family plan. I have a 3G purchased on launch day '08. She has a 2G purchased on launch day '07. For some reason, my upgrade date is 3/12/2010. She is eligible to upgrade now. She doesn't want the new iPhone, but of course I do. Can I buy a 3GS, pretend it's for her so we get the lower price, then just later swap the SIM cards? Is there any down side to doing this?

Thanks!


Yep, we have the family plan and have done the exact same thing with two iPhones on our plan. It works fine, just call customer service and have them switch the imei number and the data plan to your line.
 
Anybody figure out why some are for early upgrade in March of 2010, like myself. When I bought my IPhone the same week it came out (3g). I could handle July, like others have but March 2010 is a little long. I bought mine 4 days after launch day at ATT store order fullfillment.
 
According to Apple's web site as of 15 minutes ago, yes, the $699 price also requires rolling your account over into a new 2-year contract.

According to Gizmodo, who claims to have received their information direct from AT&T, no, the $699 price is commitment-free, which would imply that you could just use the phone on your existing plan without affecting your contract expiry date or any future upgrade eligibility.

I got the $699 price for 32gb. Will Att allow me to rolling my account over into a new 2-year contract and get phone for $499?.
 
I bought my iPhone 3g on launch date. I am eligable for the iPhone 3gs 16gb for $400. It's not so bad. I could sell my current 3g for $400 as well. Why are people complaining? Plus I don't even use the $30 data plan on my 3g, this means I have even saved more money.
 
I bought my iPhone 3g on launch date. I am eligable for the iPhone 3gs 16gb for $400. It's not so bad. I could sell my current 3g for $400 as well. Why are people complaining? Plus I don't even use the $30 data plan on my 3g, this means I have even saved more money.

People are complaining because, like you, they bought the iPhone 3G the day it came out (including me) but are seeing prices of $599 (16GB) and $699 (32GB) instead of the $399 (16GB) ad $499 (32GB) we should be seeing. I don't have a problem paying $499, but $699 is a bit extreme...
 
For those of you thinking that you can cancel account for termination fee, then renew as a new customer, there is some fine print. I could cancel my account now for about $90, based on pro-rated termination fee. A new iPhone (32GB) is $300 with contract and $700 without. So $390 seems like the best deal, right? Well, I just talked to an AT&T rep about the details that don't seem to show up in the user contract info. I was told that if I terminate now (with pro-rated fee), then there is a 30 day period for reinstating my account AND there is a 60 day period before I can reuse my same phone number! Like I said, this is not in the contract info I read, but is what an AT&T rep told me. Looks like $600/$700 is only option for people like me who cannot get upgrade price now.
 
The logical solution to all of this BS is that AT&T and Apple need to get the subsidy amount to more closely correspond to the interval between phone releases. Why should we have a two-year contract (who made up that number, anyway?) and a two-year subsidy when the release schedule for the phones is expected to be ONE year? This same situation is going to happen EVERY SINGLE YEAR until they get the two items in sync with each other.

There are a lot of us out here (raises hand) who will pretty much buy every single new, improved model of iPhone as soon as they are released, as long as the pricing is reasonable. I've owned the original 8 GB iPhone, the upgraded 16 GB iPhone, and the 16 GB iPhone 3G, and I've bought them all on THE DAY THAT THEY WERE RELEASED -- there is no more loyal iPhone customer than me. But given AT&T/Apple's unreasonable demand that I fork over $699 for the new 32 GB iPhone 3GS, that streak is going to come to an end muy pronto... and in the process, they have turned my previous good will toward AT&T into loathing. They can't even explain WHY I'm being told I'm not upgrade-eligible until April 2010. :mad:
 
WTF!

Till yesterday it was showing me 299 for the 16GB "early ugprade" and now they seemed to have refreshed it, now it is 399 for the early upgrade of 16gb and 499 for 32 GB.

WTF! I should've ordered yesterday. This sucks. Anyone else who hasn't ordered seen any change?
 
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