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Gooood Lord! This is a recession! Who has $700 to drop on an iPhone? My sister is eligible for an upgrade, so she's getting an iPhone 3G S and I'm just going to take her old, first generation iPhone.
 
So... the easy solution for us early 3G adopters is to sell the 3G on eBay for $450 as a lot of people are doing... then pay the $399 and upgrade to the 16GB 3GS... and you make about $30.
 
Sorry if this is mentioned somewhere else but how would this work out?

My fiance is eligible for an upgrade and I have a launch day 3g. If we order the 3gs under her name, can we just swap SIMs and she take my old 3g and I put my sim in the new 3gs?
 
YOU HAVE TO OF HAD YOUR 3G FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS BEFORE YOU CAN GET THE 399/499 PRICING, LESS THAN 6 MONTHS AND ITS THE HIGHER COST.

the end.
Early up- 399/499

For EARLY upgrade pricing: You have to of had your existing iPhone 3G for at least SIX MONTHS before they are going to let you get early pricing and take another hit on you buying another iPhone, the end.
I read it.

You are WRONG.

This is why I am personally "whining."

I have a 3G that I payed FULL PRICE for because I wasn't elligable last year on launch day. Last I checked, it is more than 6 months from the last launch.

I am still getting quoted the HIGHER prices while others aren't. ($599/$699)

So can't I "whine?"

Just a little? :D
 
I am a launch day 3G buyer who switched to AT&T ,I can upgrade a the 199/299 price on 7/2 which doesn't make any sense because it is less then a year. I think AT&T takes your plan into account when they let you upgrade.

Interesting I had the regular Iphone and went for the 3G on launch day as a many have and I do have 5 phones on the family plan one being my Iphone the rest Blackberry's and such. Checked MY upgrade time frame and gave me 7/12/09
I do need a new Iphone mine is cracked like crazy on the back panel from dropping it a few million times . Amazed it still works but I would like a new one so sounds like I would have to pay 400 for a 16gb one. Ouch, guess a 10 bucks a day into tin cup until than would do it. LOL

Just checked the Apple site and says 399 for a 16gb but on 7/12/09 do I get a different price

Review iPhone pricing.

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 07/12/2009.
$299.00* — 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
$399.00* — 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
$499.00* — 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

AT&T iPhone Data Plan

Data Plan for iPhone (includes Unlimited Data and Visual Voicemail) $30.00

Read the Terms and Conditions.
*Qualified customers only. Two-year contract may be required.
See www.wireless.att.com for 3G coverage information in your area.
Unlimited Data, SMS Text Messages and voice minutes only apply to usage in the US.
An eligible data plan for iPhone is required. This data plan does not cover international data usage and charges. AT&T reserves the right to add an eligible data plan to your account and bill you the appropriate monthly fee.
All plans require an AT&T service agreement and are subject to AT&T credit approval. A wireless service plan with AT&T is required to use the wireless phone capabilities of your iPhone.
iPhone is configured to work only with the wireless service provided by AT&T.
 
I read it.

You are WRONG.

This is why I am personally "whining."

I have a 3G that I payed FULL PRICE for because I wasn't elligable last year on launch day. Last I checked, it is more than 6 months from the last launch.

I am still getting quoted the HIGHER prices while others aren't. ($599/$699)

So can't I "whine?"

Just a little? :D

I totally agree I got my 16gb 3G for $500 in August and I have to pay $700 for the 32gb. I am thinking of canceling and pay the ETF.
 
Yup.

That would be my question as well. :D


What is your upgrade date?

Mine is 12/12

My brothers is 7/12

Were on the same plan and we bought our phones at the same exact date, time, and location.

I dont understand why our dates are different and why i am given the 599/699 pricing options
 
What is your upgrade date?

Mine is 12/12

My brothers is 7/12

Were on the same plan and we bought our phones at the same exact date, time, and location.
LOL...

3/12/2010.

But remember, it doesn't just go by your last purchase, there are other factors.

I just wish I knew EXACTLY how they calculate it.

And why others can get the 16G for 399 and I have to pay 599.
 
I bought a first gen iPhone 6 weeks after they released (8GB). In December of 2007 I foolishly upgraded to the AT&T Tilt. I still kept the iPhone, but switched devices every month or so because I couldn't decide what I wanted. I did this until the 3G was announced, then I knew what I wanted, a 3G iPhone. A month after the 3G launched, I sold my first gen to a friend and paid the $399 price for the 8GB iPhone 3G (extending my contract another 2 years).

I clicked the link in the first post and entered my info, it says that I am eligible for the $199/$299 pricing.

Is this right or is that website messed up? If its true, I'm upgrading, because my sister wants an iPhone and it would be nice to be able to give her mine for free.
 
I think there's more than one issue at play here...now I'm not speaking to validity of those issues, just that the situation is a bit more complex than some I think would like it to be...

First, AT&T opened the door to the issue a year ago when they made the exception for the 2G to 3G upgrade. Was the 2G version unsubsidized? Yes, it was. It also required a 2 year contract (which in a way tarnished the overall utility of it being unsubsidized)...a contract which would have interfered with the upgrade path of many 2G iphone users. AT&T could very well have told existing customers the same thing many of the people are saying now...you bought the phone, you signed a contract....man up and wait until you'll be eligible. There was much rejoicing when the "exception" was announced, and when AT&T made that concession they brought at least a touch of legitimacy to the expectation of yet another "exception".

Second, again AT&T messed things up by not being adequately prepared for the issue. Why is it that there seems to be very little logic governing the eligibility of specific accounts? Why are contracts with similar terms and records given such wildly different upgrade eligibility statuses? Why are some who bought the iPhone 3G on Day 1 eligible at 1 year for a subsidized upgrade, yet others are stuck with the $599/$699 unsubsidized pricing? Why is it two lines on the same plan both upgraded to 3G can have different eligibility dates? How come AT&T cannot seem explain the discrepancies, outside of the vague "I don't know" answers? This one in a way can be considered the most damning, as it offers people false hope that things might still change.

Third, as an earlier poster said the iPhone 3GS is a minor update rather then an evolution of the product. One could persuasively make the argument that, like the 3.0 OS, much of the "improvements" aren't evolutionary but more to bring the iPhone to the state of your average cell phone, what with a decent camera, voice dialing, etc. The $399/$499 price point (and especially the $599/$699 point), quite frankly, puts it outside the realm of value, even when considering the "Apple Tax" concept. Some people were probably expecting more from the announcement, but when it didn't come, and they got hit with the higher cost, were left feeling somewhat marginalized.

Fourth, I think there's also going to be some little ire against AT&T in general for marring the launch of the new firmware (no MMS till August, no tethering till who knows when, can barely keep a 3.5Mbps network operating when the phone is upgraded to 7.2Mbps support). Considering how devoted Apple fans are, how much hatred generally exists against cell service providers, and just how consistent AT&T has been with fumbling the ball lately.....it's pretty easy to follow the hate train once it gets going.

Personally, I'm more upset about the last point than anything...I mean, no MMS because of some idiotic opcode? No tethering because they can't quite decide how much to rape us for the privilege? And I laughed during the keynote at 7.2MBps support. Next years new iPhone will be old news by the time AT&T can roll that out with more than a cursory level of coverage and stability.

As to the upgrade....I thought it'd have been nice to get an exception so AT&T could lock us down for another contract, but I never expected it to happen. The difference is...though I may disagree with whether or not AT&T "screwed us" (us being 3G owners) on an "exemption" with the 3GS, I at least understand that there is some level of legitimacy to those feeling as such.
 
So has anything changed from the first page of this thread? I don't feel like reading 11 pages.
 
I think there's more than one issue at play here...now I'm not speaking to validity of those issues, just that the situation is a bit more complex than some I think would like it to be...

First, AT&T opened the door to the issue a year ago when they made the exception for the 2G to 3G upgrade. Was the 2G version unsubsidized? Yes, it was. It also required a 2 year contract (which in a way tarnished the overall utility of it being unsubsidized)...a contract which would have interfered with the upgrade path of many 2G iphone users. AT&T could very well have told existing customers the same thing many of the people are saying now...you bought the phone, you signed a contract....man up and wait until you'll be eligible. There was much rejoicing when the "exception" was announced, and when AT&T made that concession they brought at least a touch of legitimacy to the expectation of yet another "exception".

Second, again AT&T messed things up by not being adequately prepared for the issue. Why is it that there seems to be very little logic governing the eligibility of specific accounts? Why are contracts with similar terms and records given such wildly different upgrade eligibility statuses? Why are some who bought the iPhone 3G on Day 1 eligible at 1 year for a subsidized upgrade, yet others are stuck with the $599/$699 unsubsidized pricing? Why is it two lines on the same plan both upgraded to 3G can have different eligibility dates? How come AT&T cannot seem explain the discrepancies, outside of the vague "I don't know" answers? This one in a way can be considered the most damning, as it offers people false hope that things might still change.

Third, as an earlier poster said the iPhone 3GS is a minor update rather then an evolution of the product. One could persuasively make the argument that, like the 3.0 OS, much of the "improvements" aren't evolutionary but more to bring the iPhone to the state of your average cell phone, what with a decent camera, voice dialing, etc. The $399/$499 price point (and especially the $599/$699 point), quite frankly, puts it outside the realm of value, even when considering the "Apple Tax" concept. Some people were probably expecting more from the announcement, but when it didn't come, and they got hit with the higher cost, were left feeling somewhat marginalized.

Fourth, I think there's also going to be some little ire against AT&T in general for marring the launch of the new firmware (no MMS till August, no tethering till who knows when, can barely keep a 3.5Mbps network operating when the phone is upgraded to 7.2Mbps support). Considering how devoted Apple fans are, how much hatred generally exists against cell service providers, and just how consistent AT&T has been with fumbling the ball lately.....it's pretty easy to follow the hate train once it gets going.

Personally, I'm more upset about the last point than anything...I mean, no MMS because of some idiotic opcode? No tethering because they can't quite decide how much to rape us for the privilege? And I laughed during the keynote at 7.2MBps support. Next years new iPhone will be old news by the time AT&T can roll that out with more than a cursory level of coverage and stability.

As to the upgrade....I thought it'd have been nice to get an exception so AT&T could lock us down for another contract, but I never expected it to happen. The difference is...though I may disagree with whether or not AT&T "screwed us" (us being 3G owners) on an "exemption" with the 3GS, I at least understand that there is some level of legitimacy to those feeling as such.

That is an awesome post! you could have not said it any better!
 
So has anything changed from the first page of this thread? I don't feel like reading 11 pages.

No, seems like a very, very few select few of 3G users are getting the subsidized price of 199/299, vast majority of 3G users are getting the 399/499 quote and others are getting a quote of 599/699.
 
rofl...

So... the easy solution for us early 3G adopters is to sell the 3G on eBay for $450 as a lot of people are doing... then pay the $399 and upgrade to the 16GB 3GS... and you make about $30.
How do you plan to do that when Apple is selling brand new 3G iphones for $99?
 
How do you plan to do that when Apple is selling brand new 3G iphones for $99?

They are selling brand new iPhone 3G's for $99 with a 2 year contract. I will be selling my iPhone 3G 8GB software unlocked for $480 on eBay and with that money will be getting the 32GB 3GS.
 
GREAT NEWS FOR CURRENT 3G OWNERS (Family plans I only)!!!!!

I just got off the phone with AT&T and I Found out that my fiancée black berry is eligable for an early upgrade for the 3gs, so I asked if I can just use the phone with my number and AT&T said yes, the only thing is thaty fiancée will have an extra 2 yes on her but she won't mind, she's happy with her black berry. So people with family make make a deal with your family memeber and see if they will upgrade and give you the phone (make sure all of you don't have iPhones!)
 
work around

if you have a family plan with at&t you can add a line for a nominal fee ($9.99 per month), pay for the iphone on that line at the lower price, swap sim cards and add the data plan to your old line. The in-store rep gave my wife this advise in March when she got her iphone and was not upgrade eligible.
 
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