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If you came from Windows, how do you like your MBPr and would you go back? (RANT)

Hieveryone said:
Deep down inside you know you care because here you are talking about it.
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Here's your answer: Sell it. Do it now.

Your MBPr isn't getting any more valuable, but it does have considerable resale value, more than any windows laptop. eBay this supposed lemon of yours to someone who will actually treat it with some respect and care. Then go buy three cheap windows laptops with the money, and flog them as you wish. You won't care because they're cheap, right? And your creaky MacBook Pro won't burn you up anymore, because it's gone.

If you don't do this, then I can only assume that you're either trolling, or are a rageaholic who enjoys having something to be angry at.
 
Just as a spin off from the OP's original rant and my observations.

What is the best 15" MBP to buy? From early 2011 it was Radeongate, followed by the Nvidia issues through to early 2013 and then to top that the protective coating is rubbing off rMBP displays right up to 2014. This does not scream quality product when I cannot confidently go out and buy the laptop I want and hope to avoid major build quality issues.
 
steve1960 said:
Just as a spin off from the OP's original rant and my observations.

What is the best 15" MBP to buy? From early 2011 it was Radeongate, followed by the Nvidia issues through to early 2013 and then to top that the protective coating is rubbing off rMBP displays right up to 2014. This does not scream quality product when I cannot confidently go out and buy the laptop I want and hope to avoid major build quality issues.
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Buy the one you want. There are going to be defective laptops no matter what brand you buy. The fallacy is is looking at macrumors and assuming EVERYONE has these problems.

For everyone who complains, there are hundreds of other users (like myself) who have owned several mac laptops in a row that were problem-free. Most people just aren't motivated to spontaneously post here to state nothing is wrong, and their mac is running just fine.
 
I really want to like that new 12 inch Macbook. But only one USB C port? I think I'd have to hold off for a little while. As for the OP's rant, I think that's been answered satisfactorily. I opened up my late 2011 15 inch MBP to put in an SSD and more RAM. When I put it back together, I somehow had one screw that didn't want to seat all the way. No creaks. No ill effects. Just a screw that wasn't quite flush. I simply ignore it. And I don't blame Apple for the design of the screw or whatever. Perhaps I got some dust in there and that's why it won't seat. I've got more important things to worry about. I keep my MBP sitting on two paint stir sticks. It's a poor man's heat dissipation method. And no the screw doesn't stick out that far. It's only about 1/20 of an inch. I also allow my MBP to sleep. Perhaps this is the reason I haven't had the video failure that is so common for this particular model. I paid for AC. I like Apple's customer service and I pick up AC on either portable or expensive items I buy. My AC runs out in a few months, then I get a few more months of free repairs thanks to Apple's response to the video class action. By then, if my MBP is still running fine, I'll probably just keep it a while longer. If it's showing any signs of trouble, I'll see what's current and grab it.

My answer to the OP is this, pay the 29 bucks. It's well worth it to talk to Apple about your issue. They are very good at making customers happy. I wouldn't spend a dime to talk to Lenovo, Dell or HP but paying for Apple service to me is worth it. Once they fix your machine, enjoy your non-creaking machine which you already admit has great software. Isn't that what it's about?

I love Lenovo's line of Ultrabooks. I think they are every bit as nice (almost) as just about anything Apple makes. But Windows? I wouldn't put Windows on my garbage disposal. I certainly won't put it on any information appliance I own. If I someday have to give up on Apple and OSX, I might see myself moving to Linux but never Windows. All that "prove you're not a pirate" nonsense every time I do any sort of install gets on my last nerves. All that everything works in IE / nothing works in IE nonsense is enough to make me see crimson red.

OP if you honestly think you can live with Windows and all of its cruft and nonsense then knock yourself out. But again I recommend you cough up $29 or even $299 bucks if that's all it takes for you to get your Mac working the way you want it. Oh, and don't take the cover off again if you have trouble getting it back together.
 
I'm a new Apple owner, 2015 13" rMBP. The first Apple PC I've used since an Apple II. I've owned several Windows Laptops and desk tops over the years. Like most Window's users, I've been frustrated by decreasing system performance with every service pack install and virus scanner. My 5 year old Toshiba Laptop, which was only used for light surfing and email, became so slow, I finally caved and purchased a rMBP. (Granted, the laptop is 5 years old, but I'm not asking it to do any heavy lifting. It can take up to a minute to launch Chrome with 4 tabs. It takes about 10 minutes to boot up & stabilize. I run virus and malware scans often.) This same laptop runs much better with Puppy Linux from a jump drive, so I know the hardware isn't a problem.

Also, one big consideration for me is that I don't like Windows 8, (I do like 7). I just don't get the Metro interface and don't trust that MS is committed to a standard desktop interface. Metro, to me, seems like a tablet/phone interface ported to a PC. Also, I don't see the benefit of touching the screen to do common computing tasks. My hands are always on the keyboard, track-pad or mouse. I don't want to have to pick up my hands and touch a monitor, that as screens get larger, are likely to be farther away from my hands.

Anyway, I'm very happy with the rMBP. It's amazingly quick to boot up and launch apps. I'm learning OS X and do find it more logical and easier than Windows. I will consider replacing my desktop PC with a Mac when it's time to upgrade.

That said, my daughter will be getting a new Windows 8 Laptop for school. The brand and software of the laptop are mandated by the school, so we don't have a choice. This will be a top of the line windows laptop with a touch screen that can be flipped over and held like a tablet. It will be interesting to see how this compares to my rMBP.
 
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scaredpoet said:
Buy the one you want. There are going to be defective laptops no matter what brand you buy. The fallacy is is looking at macrumors and assuming EVERYONE has these problems.

For everyone who complains, there are hundreds of other users (like myself) who have owned several mac laptops in a row that were problem-free. Most people just aren't motivated to spontaneously post here to state nothing is wrong, and their mac is running just fine.
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Yes I agree the forum amplifies the problems but still they are there and Apple's final admission and acceptance of the GPU issues indicate the problems were significant enough. Plus when I scan through the other forums, like MBA and iPad, I just don't see the same significant hardware issues.

There seem to be a lot of iPhone 6 issues but that is not surprising given the millions that have already sold. MBP's do not sell in anywhere near the same volume but the volume of complaint seems pretty high.

Just saying. Probably won't stop me closing my eyes and picking a 15" MBP. I will probably even buy Apple care which seems almost essential.
 
Go to other manufacturers forums

steve1960 said:
Just as a spin off from the OP's original rant and my observations.

What is the best 15" MBP to buy? From early 2011 it was Radeongate, followed by the Nvidia issues through to early 2013 and then to top that the protective coating is rubbing off rMBP displays right up to 2014. This does not scream quality product when I cannot confidently go out and buy the laptop I want and hope to avoid major build quality issues.
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Just take a look around every manufacturer has similar problems and do far less about them and give worse customer service.
 
Hieveryone said:
Oh yes it is. It's completely Apples fault- 100%


I challenge you to search this forum for creaky late 2013 MacBooks.
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How do you even respond to this kind of logic?

I challenge the OP to search the numerous Windows PC forums and look at all the issues on them.

I've had my rMBP for 48 hours now, and I can tell you I sincerely doubt if I'll ever go back to a Windows PC.

Our Dell XPS-15 (9530) has an issue where if you pick it up a certain way, the bottom bends in and hits the fan.

There isn't a perfect piece of equipment out there, very one has some type of issue.
 
steve1960 said:
Yes I agree the forum amplifies the problems but still they are there and Apple's final admission and acceptance of the GPU issues indicate the problems were significant enough. Plus when I scan through the other forums, like MBA and iPad, I just don't see the same significant hardware issues.
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That's because they don't have discreet GPUs like the high end MPB15 does. If that's your major concern and you aren't doing GPU-intensive operations, then getting the model with just the Intel Iris Pro graphics would be the safe bet.
 
My brand new 13" rMBP's touchpad creaks all the time when I'm using the laptop. I thought Apple revised the touchpad tech and removed the spring so it doesn't move? It still creaks and clicks, heading back to Apple store now to return this pos...

In all seriousness OP, if you're not a troll, get a Lenovo T or X series w/ onsite warranty and be done with it. Don't even waste your time with other brands. Lenovo T / X is the only brand+model I buy when going with a Windows laptop.
 
While I haven't got a Retina MBP, I migrated from Windows in 2012 to a classic MBP. Now I can't fathom going back, I've become so fluent with OS X, the speed of spotlight and mission control etc that I dread going back to Windows OS when I have to for work etc.

As far as build quality goes, I'm yet to see a PC that matches the design and reliability for MacBooks, I've only went to the genius bar once in near 3 years purely for a battery replacement and getting a place was no problem as long as you respect everything is pre-booked and don't try to roll in on the day and expect everyone to shuffle their schedule around you - I don't agree that Mac products are unreliable.

I'm a proper Mac-convert, and I couldn't be happier. I've managed to influence others into migrating over as well and they're likewise thrilled and not looking to go back.

Sucks you had a bad experience :/

Side note: I find it wrong to blame Apple's build quality when one of the issues you're facing only appeared after you started fiddling with the machine.
 
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If you don't like it the you should sell it, and move on. These little rants I find them myself irrelevant.

The day my rMBP doesn't deliver what I expect from it I'll let it go. As someone has pointed out before these things are not meant to be opened, so if it creaks now Apple is not to be blamed for. I don't care whether the computer costs $1,500 or $5,000.
 
Instead of ranting and raving on here, how about taking your Mac to the Genius Bar? That would be the most logical thing to do, especially when you are unhappy with what you perceive to be a mechanical problem. Otherwise, you are posting just to see yourself post.

No need for all the 'I am going back to Windows' drama.

Edited to add: If I remember correctly, you had AppleCare and returned it, because American Express would cover your Mac. Now, you are griping about having to pay $29.00 to talk to Apple about your Mac. Call American Express and gripe to them. See how far you get with customer no service.
 
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It's not my fault. It's Apple's fault for building poor design quality.

Indisputable proof:

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&ei=kJQRVZXAJ4WkNrOAg1g&q=macbook+pro+creaking&oq=macbook+pro+creaking&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3..0l5.2154.6625.0.6784.21.21.0.13.13.0.178.1947.17j4.21.0.msedr...0...1c.1.62.mobile-gws-hp..1.20.677.3.q3i2HdOfyd4


I'm not as mad today, but it's kind of upsetting still because of the price. I could've gotten a Windows for $500. Then if it creaks, who cares? It's only 500. But $1585? It should be perfect.

I guess it's like my Mercedes. It's in the dealer way more than any Honda I've owned.

But you don't buy a Mercedes for the reliability you buy it to show off lol
 
Great news

I unscrewed the MBPr again and found the source of creaking. I even made a video.

I need to just upload it to youtube then post a link which I will.

I'm not really sure how to fix it, but at least I know what's causing it, which helps.
 
Get rid of all this as well!

"13" MBPr, 2.6 Ghz, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD ; 16 GB iPad Air White ; 16 GB iPad Air Black ; 16 GB iPhone 5 White ; 16 GB iPhone 5 Black ; 2 16 GB iPhone 4 black ; Apple TV ; Black iPod Nano"
 
ThoseBackPages said:
Get rid of all this as well!

"13" MBPr, 2.6 Ghz, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD ; 16 GB iPad Air White ; 16 GB iPad Air Black ; 16 GB iPhone 5 White ; 16 GB iPhone 5 Black ; 2 16 GB iPhone 4 black ; Apple TV ; Black iPod Nano"
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Why would I get rid of electronics I don't have a problem with? That makes no sense at all.

That list is out dated anyway. I've bought a lot more products since!!!

Anyway here's the video.

http://youtu.be/iw3Xw5Nn2Kk

EDIT: Watch this video, this guy has problems too. In fact there's HUNDREDS of youtube videos with people just like me!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqdnfYe42Hc
 
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Hieveryone said:
Great news

I unscrewed the MBPr again and found the source of creaking. I even made a video.

I need to just upload it to youtube then post a link which I will.

I'm not really sure how to fix it, but at least I know what's causing it, which helps.
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Can you describe for those of us who are video-impaired?
 
newellj said:
Can you describe for those of us who are video-impaired?
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Sure. Basically, in the bottom left corner there's a black squarish looking thing. If you press down on it, it makes an annoying creaking sound.

But I don't think there's anything actually wrong with computer itself.

I guess I should probably just live it, idk. When I first got my Mercedes and it gave trouble I wrote a letter to Mercedes telling them my Honda never gave trouble, how come my Benz does?

But that was before I knew how it works.

Remember y'all, this is my first MBPr. So I didn't know that they cause trouble.

I just assumed that if I'm going to pay 1585 for a computer when I can pay 500 it would be perfect, just like when I assumed if I paid 60k for a Mercedes (cash mind you) when I could spend 25k on a Honda it would be perfect.

Kind of learned the hard way Mercedes gives MORE trouble than Hondas. My next car will be a Lexus as a result.

And my next computer will likely be a Dell.
 
Hieveryone said:
Sure. Basically, in the bottom left corner there's a black squarish looking thing. If you press down on it, it makes an annoying creaking sound.

But I don't think there's anything actually wrong with computer itself.

I guess I should probably just live it, idk. When I first got my Mercedes and it gave trouble I wrote a letter to Mercedes telling them my Honda never gave trouble, how come my Benz does?

But that was before I knew how it works.

Remember y'all, this is my first MBPr. So I didn't know that they cause trouble.

I just assumed that if I'm going to pay 1585 for a computer when I can pay 500 it would be perfect, just like when I assumed if I paid 60k for a Mercedes (cash mind you) when I could spend 25k on a Honda it would be perfect.

Kind of learned the hard way Mercedes gives MORE trouble than Hondas. My next car will be a Lexus as a result.

And my next computer will likely be a Dell.
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I've been buying Dells since they first started selling computers. Maybe they will turn things around, but even with all the beefs about Apple, Dell is seldom even close. I had a 2013 XPS 13 that was nice, but still not in the same class as a rMBP. I will look at the pics on iFIxit out of curiosity though doubtful I have any suggestions that would be useful.

Edit: looks like you're describing one of the batteries???
 
newellj said:
I've been buying Dells since they first started selling computers. Maybe they will turn things around, but even with all the beefs about Apple, Dell is seldom even close. I had a 2013 XPS 13 that was nice, but still not in the same class as a rMBP. I will look at the pics on iFIxit out of curiosity though doubtful I have any suggestions that would be useful.

Edit: looks like you're describing one of the batteries???
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The iFixit picture actually doesn't show it. It's actually under the left most small battery. It's just a silver empty area in the pic, but otherwise there's a black thing (speaker maybe).

Ok then I'll avoid dell. I've owned Compaq and HP both I got dirt cheap. Ran them to the ground. Squeezed every penny out of it. Great value.

The Compaq was like 200 and the HP was 550.

EDIT: Which makes me realize, I could have bought 8 Compaqs for the price of ONE (1) MBPr and been set for about 40 years, assuming they last 5 years average.

FML
 
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Hieveryone said:
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I have a MBPr. I came from 3 windows laptops.

I love it. It's great. Mail, calendar, etc are all very convenient.

But when this thing dies, I'm going back to Windows.

I paid $1585, and I'm sick of the the little things.

For example, it was running hot because of dust.

Then I opened it, cleaned the dust and now it runs faster and cooler, but now it creaks.

I rather just spend $500 bucks so if it creaks crackles and pops, I won't care.

For $1585, it just annoys me so much. Now that I'm no longer under warranty, they want $29 just for talking about it.

FML

Windows For Life, seriously y'all this is too much for me. I've had it with Apple.
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How much for your used Apple products??

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Micky Do said:
And it seems some people post on forums to show off.

I bought Mac for OS X. I wouldn't go back to Windows.
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Yep NEVER!!!
 
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