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If you came from Windows, how do you like your MBPr and would you go back? (RANT)

If there is an issue with your Mac you should let Apple fix it. Don't go making problems worse for yourself by digging holes where you shouldn't be. These laptops are not user upgrade. Therefore, they should not be opened for any reason. Because you fiddled in he wrong area your having issues and are blaming Apple for a poor quality product. That is just crazy. Obviously you were looking for problems from the jump. Good luck finding a better company.
 
yjchua95 said:
In fact if I remember right, even taking out the back panel will void the warranty.
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Mine has user-serviceable parts so that cannot apply as a blanket statement.

Apple provide the instructions to carry out RAM upgrades so definitely approve of the back panel being removed.
 
556fmjoe said:
Oh please. Of course it's designed to be taken apart. Unibody MacBook Pros are dramatically easier to take apart than any other laptop Apple has made. Removing a handful of screws and lifting the back cover off is not some difficult engineering feat that only experts should attempt.
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Not anymore ever since Apple locked down parts in the retina models.
 
yjchua95 said:
Not anymore ever since Apple locked down parts in the retina models.
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That only looks bad on Apple. What kind of product are they selling if you can't even unscrew the back lid and put it back on?

They need to make it better then. Obviously this is a huge design flaw that they need to address.

Also, I don't *think* I've heard anymore creaking since screwing back the way the guy did in the pic he posted.

It *seems* good to go. Of course, let's give it a day or two and see before declaring victory.
 
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Hieveryone said:
Maybe Apple should learn how to make good hardware that doesn't creak? Then I won't need to learn how to tighten screws properly huh?
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The method of tightening screws is pretty standard actually..

You should of been aware of it by now since you claim to be a car guy, and someone who knows enough to work on computers..

Your ignorance is no one but your own fault.
 
Hieveryone said:
That only looks bad on Apple. What kind of product are they selling if you can't even unscrew the back lid and put it back on?

They need to make it better then. Obviously this is a huge design flaw that they need to address.

Also, I don't *think* I've heard anymore creaking since screwing back the way the guy did in the pic he posted.

It *seems* good to go. Of course, let's give it a day or two and see before declaring victory.
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They're making a product in which you're supposed to just use it and not do anything else to it.

It's meant to be used out of the box as it is, without any modding.
 
David58117 said:
The method of tightening screws is pretty standard actually..

You should of been aware of it by now since you claim to be a car guy, and someone who knows enough to work on computers..

Your ignorance is no one but your own fault.
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Exactly, tightening screws are easy.

And I tightened them how they should be. So then why was it creaking?

It's not my ignorance. It's apples for creating a product that creaks, and your ignorance for not recognizing such an obvious and self evident fact.

Whatever the case, I'm close to calling victory as I think the creak is gone since tightening it according to the diagram. I heard a "tick" sound when lifting it from the left side. I'll see if it happens again.

At this point emailing T. Cook is on the table because he should know how many of his customers are unhappy with creaky macs and fix it if he hasn't already.

And no I'm not a car guy. I just drive a luxury car.
 
Hieveryone said:
Exactly, tightening screws are easy.

And I tightened them how they should be. So then why was it creaking?

It's not my ignorance. It's apples for creating a product that creaks, and your ignorance for not recognizing such an obvious and self evident fact.

Whatever the case, I'm close to calling victory as I think the creak is gone since tightening it according to the diagram. I heard a "tick" sound when lifting it from the left side. I'll see if it happens again.

At this point emailing T. Cook is on the table because he should know how many of his customers are unhappy with creaky macs and fix it if he hasn't already.

And no I'm not a car guy. I just drive a luxury car.
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And the creaking only happens if you took it apart (usually), which you're not supposed to do.

For instance, I don't take apart the innards of my Tesla, because I don't want to risk breaking anything, and besides, I'm not supposed to use it.

A product is meant to be purchased and used as-is, without further modifications.
 
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I'm impressed this thread still lives...
This is such a perfect case of troll :rolleyes:

How are non user replaceable parts a design flaw? The are not supposed to be replaced by design...

I too have beef with the pentalobe screws but the arguments the OP makes are completely ludicrous. It just orbits around the creaking and nothing else.
 
I came from a Windows after using it most of my life. I really like my rMBP and I doubt I'd go back.

The biggest problem for me is bugs in Yosemite. I have faith that these will be fixed in Apples next iteration of OSX. It's pretty disgraceful a lot still haven't been fixed but they're not bad enough to put me off the OS.
 
I came from windows, currently using a 3.5 year old macbook pro which I have had since new, tbh the only reason I bought a macbook at that time because it was one of the few laptops that had decent looks and a good battery...but now with all these ultrabooks coming out I would certainty go back to windows....
 
I grew up with Windows, and I don't think I could ever go back for my personal computer. Sure, my first MBP had some hardware issues, but I also got a lot of use out of it. My rMBP is already showing less wear and tear than the MBP at the same length of ownership. My MBP also won't die despite being almost six years old. I've gone through several hard drives and two batteries, and it's still going. It's not hearty enough to be a daily driver anymore, but it's a good secondary machine.

The Windows desktops I had growing up (HP Win 95 and Compaq XP) just seemed like they would quickly slow down and barely keep up with the uses we demanded from them. They were always full of malware and viruses too. It's also been so long since I used Windows regularly that Windows 8 is almost foreign to me. I'm much more used to OS X now.
 
yjchua95 said:
Where's the moderators of the forum when we need them to send this thread off to the wasteland?
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I've participated in forums for years now, and never understood when people put out a cry for a moderator.

What's the harm exactly?

The OP is getting to vent, and people are getting to respond to him.

I understand there are "Forum rules" - but are we really that juvenile we can't police ourselves and not participate in what we don't wish to?

I'm an adult - I'm actually enjoying seeing the OP's thought process slowly evolve yet stay strong on blaming everyone else (but himself). It's kind of interesting, how different people can be from one another.

And when I'm tired of the nonsense - I just click out of the thread.

Like you should.
 
Victory.

Creaking's gone.

Thank you.

And good night (4 AM eastern).

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P.S. I would like to recant my statement regarding going back to PC after my MBPr retina gets old. My strategy for my next laptop after my late 2013 2.6/8/256 is to certainly consider one like the Dell XPS 13" edge to edge touch display OR go with a refurbished MacBook. Time will tell.
 
Came from Windows in 2012 with the introduction of rMBP, will never go back. OS X is perfect for me, UX is incredible. Windows.... meh.
 
I can't say I'm happy about Apple locking down their laptops. Always been able to replace/upgrade the RAM, and battery before.I appreciate there are users who will never do these things. But some of us have the technical know how. So it feels like everything is in Apple's hands now apart from the hard drive. I don't think a laptop should be considered to be like a car either. There are plenty of computer enthusiasts who like to tinker, and prolong the life of their laptops.

Ok so if you max out the RAM you shouldn't need to worry about that. But because it's soldered on, if the RAM goees faulty after your Applecare has run out then you'd need to replace the entire logic board. And yes I know you could buy a new laptop but you shouldn't have to. You can't just swap out the battery. Would be some down time while apple replaced the battery. I suppose you can still upgrade the hard drive. Thanks Apple. :p

I'm not saying I won't purchase one this year, but I'm not completely happy. So I could quite easily change back, though I'd have to go to Linux. I can't go back to Windows full time again. Just a shame Linux isn't as polished as OSX.
 
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