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iFixit Lauds Apple's New Self Service Repair Program, Calls It a 'Remarkable Concession'
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I really don't understand the argument that this has any environmental impact at all, let alone a positive one.
Lots of people buying repair equipment that only a few qualified techs would need, having parts individually packaged and driven to peoples homes rather than shipped in quantity to a few centralized repair centers, unqualified users opening delicate electronics leading to more damaged products to dispose of, replaced components being individually driven back to Apple for recycling if the users bother to recycle it at all, products reassembled less reliably leading to repeat failures...
It would sound like an ecological disaster if I thought a significant fraction of the 200 million people buying these things each year were going to actually try to repair them-- but fortunately they won't and the overall impact is going to get lost in the noise. On the other hand, if Apple makes an effort to make them easier to repair at home, replacing solder connections with connectors, for example, we'll likely see a decline in product reliability.
I feel like the people making environmental arguments about Apple's repairability really don't understand, which is why they keep using analogies like car tires and spark plugs.
non usa can repair item legally . only usa kinda odd a bit. he good on repair but another one whom make the roseman use software motherboard thing to repair the most respect one
Please don’t hurt Apple anymore. I don’t even repair my Nokia and i create more waste to change the Nokia case!!!!
Stop speaking like fighting for consumers! It is only benefit the repair shop, not consumers.
Even if it cost the same I would still prefer to do the repair myself since I know I will be more careful fixing a device I like vs someone doing it as a job where they have to do so many per day.
I’m an electrical engineer. I’ve designed and hand built printed circuit boards with small surface mount parts so I think I can replace a battery.
Yah - that was part of why I was thinking it would be ridiculous for Apple to go in this direction. Other reasons related to security of Face ID. Anyways I was wrong.
My opinion was dead wrong about this issue of "right to repair" - but now I have changed my mind a bit - I think it's amazing and great that Apple is now allowing it.
But yah, I don't know if I'd want to buy a used iPhone that was a possible DIY repair.
Two things that I can immediately come up with why repair shop maybe better than Apple.
1. Apple will never do board level repairs. If you have iPhone that doesn’t turn on or any chips that damaged or if you have water damage or anything requires board level repair, you are kissing goodbye to your data. Apple will simply charging you for a refurbished iPhone. Repairs shop that capable to do board level repair will able to fix you phone and you get your data back.
2. Almost always repairs shop charge way less than Apple. I have an iPhone 8 with small crack on the bottom right corner. Display is perfectly fine. Apple won’t even replace my battery unless I change screen first. Guess what Apple charges me? $195 Canadian for the screen. iPhone 8 doesn’t worth that much fat this stage. Guess what, I get battery from Amazon for $30 dollars, replaced it.
I get not all repair store are good, but repair store does benefit consumer.
why Apple need to use this strategy to sell more? WTF....it is easier for them to make inferior product or create some manufacture defects so that they can sell more
You can make beer at home. Does that mean liquor stores went away? No. There will always be a small subset of the population that wants to do something themselves, but the masses will still go to someone else to do the work for them.
Except that this hasn’t been Apple’s business model for quite a while now. I don’t know when exactly it began (I think around the iPhone 7), but people are now holding on to their iPhones longer, and Apple has responded in turn by pivoting from selling iPhones to selling to people with iPhones.
This means higher prices, more accessories, more services, but you get my gist - Apple doesn’t need you to keep buying iPhones; they just need you to keep using them.
I will say it’s in line with Apple making their devices last longer, which in turn preserves their resale value while also growing the install base by way of the gray market.
1. remember to back-up or use iCloud. board level is not easy, and no benefit to repair unless for the valuable data inside. board level repairs always take shortcut and it will never as complete as the new one.
2. you don't understand the display screen component. you think you get cheap alternative, but in fact you purchased lower grade glass. Please do your google to understand what is the glass replacement for your phone OLED/LCD screen. For the battery replace, aside from lower grade battery pack, workmanship & repair job liability is the main cost.
The solution for this is easy.
Government can rule all mobile phone company allow to launch new phone only in every 3 year gap.
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