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iFixit Lauds Apple's New Self Service Repair Program, Calls It a 'Remarkable Concession'
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i rather they replace or fix my parts. I don't mind spending a few extra $$
costs of parts
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For “Other Damage” on last section this is what apple will charge you for a rear system for your 12 and 13 series phones. otherwise older models won’t have rear glass as an option, it’s a whole unit repair.
iPhone Screen Repair - Apple Support
Learn more about Apple-certified iPhone screen repair options, and replacement costs by coverage type.
iPhone Battery Replacement - Apple Support
Need more power? An Apple Store or Authorized Service Provider near you can replace your iPhone battery. See the associated cost by coverage type.
iPhone Repair and Service - Apple Support
Need to repair your iPhone? See your service options, their costs by coverage type, and how long they take.
For “Other Damage” on last section this is what apple will charge you for a rear system for your 12 and 13 series phones. otherwise older models won’t have rear glass as an option, it’s a whole unit repair.
you won’t be spending extra. apple going to literally charge you the same cost for parts for them to do it for you. won’t make sense for you to repair your own device unless you don’t have an apple store near by or have trouble getting to one.
this service only for out of warranty phones and part costs are all genuine apple replacement part prices as shown in post above.
So you do not want small business to thrive?
Do you know how many small independent repairs shop partner with Apple for the repairs? Please check it out!
Solid argument and I believe a fair view at the other side of this argument, the decentralized distribution alone you mention is just the start… and actually delivery mixups (got component A instead of B) resets the whole thing: component needs to be sent back and repeat again. Not so for a centralized known store.
This is similar to the argument of how upgradeability of computers is greener when we never see macs on trash bins, the SSDs/RAM/CPU/GPU/etc thumbnail sized components have a whole lot less footprint than sticks, the slots for those sticks, massive cards, so on and so forth… and then the exemplary cycle of: ordering more ram, taking the old ones out because “matching channels/speed something”, then a new CPU comes out but it needs a new slot, so it needs a new motherboard, so the old gets put on the side, but all of it now draws more power so it needs a new PSU, one of the WiFi/Bluetooth/PCIe doesn’t play nice on the new motherboard… i think there’s enough of an idea.
I’m not in favor nor against any of this repairability or upgradeability arguments, but I don’t feel compelled to tag it with “the greenest and the only way, anything else is evil and on purpose” stamp. Someone would have to come with a way to do an actual study, collect metrics, etc for both sides.
Not denying your points, it would get fixed and it would work, especially point #2.
Me as a costumer I would still be concerned… if thousands of engineers at Samsung managed to create inflammable phones in a controlled environment where every piece assembled is guaranteed to work beforehand, whether I’m right or wrong or irrational about this, I wouldn’t have high hopes of already damaged micro tolerances delicate circuitry getting a second try at functioning properly.
Well, if the ultimate goal is really a green environment with less e-waste, less frenetic consumerism, settling designs for long lasting use then I must say that you got a point.
Maybe… just maybe, if there’s any hardcore seriousness about it, the right to repair and other legislations that people are aiming for could come with an extra set of legislations on the rate of design and production.
… Followed by a potential civil war afterwards from hitting such cores
1. If you think it's going to be any cheaper to fix it yourself than to just have the Genius Bar do it, you're kidding yourself.
2. Trying not to be cynical here, but perhaps Apple has figured that so many people are going to be ruining their devices (or at least shortening the device life) via self repair, that it might actually increase the number of devices they sell each year?
3. I worry about my AAPL next year, because I give it, well... maybe... six weeks after the program starts before the first viral video shows up on the InstaTikTokTubes of a self repaired iPhone exploding on a plane in flight. We know what **** like that does to a company's stock price. The Market WON'T CARE who's at fault.
2. Trying not to be cynical here, but perhaps Apple has figured that so many people are going to be ruining their devices (or at least shortening the device life) via self repair, that it might actually increase the number of devices they sell each year?
3. I worry about my AAPL next year, because I give it, well... maybe... six weeks after the program starts before the first viral video shows up on the InstaTikTokTubes of a self repaired iPhone exploding on a plane in flight. We know what **** like that does to a company's stock price. The Market WON'T CARE who's at fault.
Definitely appreciate apple for doing this. I think it will be safe to assume that only parts purchased from Apple can be used. Also really hoping it will be available everywhere.
I've definitely had a few connectors snap on me back in the day (also a Mac Genius; worked at a certified third party as well). The engineering is great, but it's no engineered to fix. It's engineered to fit. Haha.
I think most people feel the same. There is a very loud minority on the internet, especially Blue Checkmarks and tech writers, that feel this is a huge issue and those people won (they’ve couched “right to repair” as if it’s some type of civil rights issue). I’m happy and hope they go away. I’m sure Louis Rossman will continue to complain, though.
Let's be honest, this concession is about one thing and one thing only:
Stopping or slowing momentum on right to repair legislation. Because if legislation is passed, it will likely require far more than what Apple will offer, perhaps even design changes to make repairs easier.
Stopping or slowing momentum on right to repair legislation. Because if legislation is passed, it will likely require far more than what Apple will offer, perhaps even design changes to make repairs easier.
Actually, there are a lot of people that need this, as they don't live anywhere close to an official repair center.
The times that I've had Apple repair my phone out of warranty, the cost wasn't that much more than a 3rd party with non-OEM part, usually about 15-20%, which I'm fine paying for keeping OEM parts and Apple warranty on the parts.
Now it completely makes sense that they had installed that chip to disable face unlock if the screen was swapped. They were planning on being the only ones to sell the self-repair screens. They totally botched the rollout/PR for this… I know they’re disabling the limitation in the next update, but perhaps when self repair becomes available, they’ll lock it down again?
I'm guessing, like their products, that when they whole program is revealed there will something that is less than what people expect.
Still I wonder if this made Louis Rossman smile.
Still I wonder if this made Louis Rossman smile.
“LOTS?” I think the number is very small. I don’t think MOST people who live in areas without a major or minor retailer to fix the device will open the machine to do repairs. Can you see your mom or little sister or most normies who buy iPhones at a carrier store (or online) ordering iFixIt tools and manuals? No.
Very few people who buy iPhones would consider opening them and fixing them. To say otherwise is silly.
The only people who care about such things are people on MacRumors (or similar sites). Most iPhone buyers are not us.
A small and loud minority banging on their high chairs with wooden spoons “WAH, give me my tools and manuals!!!”
Lol
Unless you are getting really bad battery, chances of battery burst into flame is relatively low. Most modern phone has temperature censor and almost all phone have charging ICs that regulate voltage and amperage.
I have changed like 20 batteries on iPhones over past few years, none of them had any problem whatsoever