The problem with your response is it ignores what I was responding to. He said ifixit shouldn't have been allowed to publish it.
In his message to which you responded, he said "I think it is fair that Samsung asks for the tear up removal."
The problem with your response is it ignores what I was responding to. He said ifixit shouldn't have been allowed to publish it.
Say what you want about Samsung... at least they are innovating.... what’s Apple doing besides adding a freaking camera lense
It’s no way I’m upgrading from my mid spec XS Max this year
Can anyone convince me that this fold nonsense isn't a fad?
Is it really though? No company wants their products splayed open for the world to see, especially products that aren’t even shipping yet. You can’t stop people from tearing apart stuff they buy, but they can certainly take action against leaks like this.It's unclear why Samsung wanted the teardown removed
It’s not so much gloating from armchair engineers as it, WTF were Samsung engineers thinking?
Seriously, how was it possible for them to overlook such a glaringly obvious point of ingress in a $2000 device? That’s pathetic.
Perhaps. Perhaps not.I imagine the engineering team told their managers all about the weaknesses of the current design. What management did after that can't be blamed on the engineers.
Google may not be willing to pay what it takes to get a great panel. If Apple didn’t think LG could manufacture a display to its specs, it wouldn’t have thrown almost $3 billion at them.And LG is still behind with their crappy phone displays. Ask Google and the Pixel 2/3 crowd
There’s been no statement that no one violated any agreements either. I’m guessing iFixit received the unit without strings attached and was in the clear, but the reviewer who provided it probably didn’t read, or ignored, the fine print of their agreement with Samsung.There have been no allegations that iFixIt or anyone else violated any embargo, NDA, or other agreement or contract by publishing what they published. So nothing in your post is on topic.
I just love iFixIt. This is a good teardown read, done not-too-seriously and interspersed with humor.
iFixIt teardowns are a good read for those that want to know "how things work" or in this case "how things do not work". And, they simply nailed it this time -- as the post mortem bears their findings.
In my view, no shame on Samsung -- no hate to Samsung at all.
They tried something ambitiously different and came up short.
So. let's wait and see what comes out of this, eventually, as others (not excluding Samsung) give it a renewed shot.
Besides fixing the design, Samsung should also change the name to "iFixit Folded".
Now, iFixit will be also be pressured to remove unflattering Apple reviews on new products.
The dream is an iPad mini in an iPhone form factor. You can’t expect to get there in one step, but the goal seems pretty clear. The Fold and the Mate X are early adopter devices. They’ll be low volume while companies figure out how to work through the limitations.Can anyone convince me that this fold nonsense isn't a fad?
Perhaps. Perhaps not.
Say what you want about Samsung... at least they are innovating.... what’s Apple doing besides adding a freaking camera lense
It’s no way I’m upgrading from my mid spec XS Max this year
To a degree yes they do owe us.... you know how much these phones cost.... if you don’t wow me.... you don’t get paidIt’s a peculiar world that thinks a company owes us innovation so we can be sold something that replaces an excellent existing product we already own.
While I don't disagree with you at all, I would say there's a difference between "owing" us and Darwinian survival of the fittest.It’s a peculiar world that thinks a company owes us innovation so we can be sold something that replaces an excellent existing product we already own.
Go ahead and buy these crap as you always did with S5 fingerprint scanner, Sammy facelock, Air gestures, Note 7 etc...
It's much simpler: Samsung dislikes the iFixit summary:I have no love for Samsung but I agree with them here. These were review units that I’m sure came with a NDA. And review units that are most likely still owned by Samsung. iFixit has no business tearing down a device they don’t own.
Innovating in devices that breakdown after a day or so of use?
It’s probably because review units are not meant to be given to someone else so they can tear them down...
And that is exactly why it is innovation. It's a new and unique way of doing something or accomplishing a task.
it's a crappy implementation. But it's still innovative.
it's now up to the industry to learn from this and move forward with better designs. there's an old saying, that still holds true today.
"Standing on the Shoulders of Giants"
Modern tech is a prime example of that. It's taking the innovative work that was done by those who came before, and applying your own innovative slant to make something new and better.
Innovation can fail. Innovation can even be bad. Innovation can be unprofitable. Innovation doesn't care about any of that. innovation only cares that it's something being done in a new or unique way.
we should be happy for their failure here. It's clear there's an obvious design flaw with the fold. Something that Samsung just didn't think about. Now that everyone has seen that, someone will hopefully work on the next innovation that assists making this technology more accessible.
If Apple for example released a new foldable phone that didn't have the massive failures. it would be innovative, but it is still building off the "giants" innovation that came before. (and yes, Apple's own innovations are also often used by those who also come after them)
the timelines of tech innovation is years,decades,centuries old, and eeach innovation today can be traced directly through innovations of yesterday. Even failed products. For example, TouchID was an innovation on fingerprint sensors that came before. They sucked before. But someone had to try it out to find out it sucked before Apple could realize why they sucked and come up with an innovative way of doing it better. The same is probably going to happen now with foldable displays.
Say what you want about Samsung... at least they are innovating.... what’s Apple doing besides adding a freaking camera lense
It’s no way I’m upgrading from my mid spec XS Max this year
I can't believe that I got to see not one but several real, not sci-fi movie, not fake, REAL flexible-screen devices in my lifetime.
As spectacular a failure as this is, I'm glad that I was finally able to be surprised and delighted by this tech, even if it doesn't come from Apple.
I felt like a kid at Christmas, even if I found out two days later Santa wasn't real. Maybe Apple could pull an "iPod" with the tech, but without Steve to drive it I find that unlikely. Time will tell.
I think the last time I felt this amazed was when I saw the Microsoft Surface Studio and that dial you stick on the screen. I'm not an artist (my daughter is though), I would't really use it, but it was cool as hell. I wanted it. And ironically, I wanted it from Apple.
Call me idealistic, naive, or foolish, but I disagree with EVERYONE here that says that devices like the Fold are a waste of time.
Cool tech is cool in my book, even if it fails.
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Right.
Because it couldn't possibly be because there is something Apple has done that deserves said berating.
Jesus.