No what hasn’t? Like I said, if you don’t need/want MacOS, you can get a PC for cheaper.
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iFixit Shares Full 16-Inch MacBook Pro Teardown
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You said: "If you don’t need/want MacOS, you can get a PC for cheaper. It’s been that way for decades." I said "it hasn't"---the quoted text is there for a reason, use it!
I like macOS, please provide EULA where I can legally install it on hardware of choice, if only Apply would license it, hmm history history.
Very few batteries are harvested from unrepairable $700-$1,500 iPhones. It’s much more likely to be from a stolen phone that’s iCloud locked, diverted from grey market sources, or a shop is knowingly or unknowingly using counterfeit (though marked as Apple). Or simply using third party batteries, whether they’re telling the customer that or not.
In all these cases, it is better for the consumer to know that, isn’t it? It may be third-party repair shop unfriendly, but it’s certainly consumer friendly.
It would be great provide EULA to those who want it and those who have zero skills in terms adding ram/ssd/repair/build they can buy fully soldered piece of aluminum.
Even if stolen iCloud would not lock the battery, this is Apple placing needless control from permitting 3rd party or users to take away from AppleCare or out of warranty repair programs.
In China you can obtain authentic Apple batteries from the same factory with the Apple logo etc, since Apple cannot control that they figure to implement an iOS software lock. These authentic batteries from China cost a fraction of what Apple charges, if you believe batteries for mobile devices are expensive think again.
Yes, I said: if you don’t need/want MacOS, you can get a PC for cheaper. It’s been that way for decades.
You replied: No it hasn't---macs used to be leading edge (hardware wise), now they're lagging behind, by a long mile.
So I repeat my question: No what hasn’t? PCs have been cheaper than Macs for decades.
You said that people for decades were getting macs because of MacOS, this is not the case, people used to get Macs because they had leading hardware, MacOS (OS X) was just an added benefit! Now the hardware is lagging behind. Hardware is always the deciding factor!
It would be great provide EULA to those who want it and those who have zero skills in terms adding ram/ssd/repair/build they can buy fully soldered piece of aluminum.
Some people live an entitled lifestyle, I like learning and doing things with my mind and hands, if some people are not comfortable that is fine but these same people believe that everyone is like or should be like them.
These same people would rather call AAA then change a flat tyre because they don’t want to get their hands dirty or simply say I can afford it and don’t care to do it myself. In this regards they choose to not change their tyre but they still can. Apple provides no choice in this regard and these people‘s response is well it is not for you due to XYZ lame reason.
Reducing demand for stolen parts is a good thing. And you might think those batteries from China stamped with an Apple logo are genuine, but how do you know that? How does anyone know which one of the 20 factories who are stamping Apple logos on their batteries are the genuine Apple part?
Third party repair shops can buy batteries from China, that’s awesome. Just don’t try to trick the consumer into thinking it’s a genuine Apple battery.
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I said nothing of the sort. Read it again.
To paraphrase: I’m saying that if you don’t have a requirement to run MacOS, you have always had the option of saving money by buying a PC instead—and running Windows, Linux or Unix.
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It seems like they're more willing to change now. The Mac market isn't as big as their other product lines so it makes sense to keep the users they have based on what they want. It seems like the market for consumption and Internet communication has largely moved to the phone. So Apple is going more niche with the Mac in terms of hardware (the new Mac Pro and its display are definitely niche, especially compared to Power Macs of yore back when the people who now use iPhones might have had a tower computer for checking e-mail). And for if you are a novice consumer using a mac who wouldn't want to replace your own SSD, it doesn't matter. You would never know the difference.
It's not what you said at all! In any event, Pros don't choose based OS, OS is but a tool...
Why only one of out ten for reliability score? Doesn't make any sense. I think it should be about 8 out of 10.
Apple gives away the OS and years of free updates as long as you buy Apple hardware. The software is built into the price of the Mac. If you’re not buying a Mac, you’re not paying for the software.
Apple has chosen not to provide MacOS for sale separately, and I think you’d agree that you’re not entitled to that.
You obviously haven't seen the new direction the Mac Pro is heading in. Everything socketed, upgradeable, repairable.
And yeah, shouldn't have anything to do with "Pro". I want this regardless if buying myself a MBP, or my son a MBA.
Flash/SSD storage chips come in strange capacities. This is because 512GB of end user storage really needs something like 700GB raw storage once all error correcting and house keeping cells are added. The two differing part numbers show that Apple had to use two different size chips to get to the desired total.
The teardown pictures show five SSD chips with blank spaces on the board for possibly three more. Don't think of them as RAID. Think of them the same way as multiple RAM chips on a DIMM.
Thanks. Haven't looked up the prices because I'm talking about if a user replaces it. Sure, they could try to take the battery, keyboard, etc. out but then they need the tools to reinstall them. The adhesive may be the easiest but not everyone has a specialized rivet gun for those small sheet metal components. Hence, why it costs "more" to have Apple do it for you. Even though, you pointed this out, which I'm glad of; hopefully you're aware that this doesn't negate that the service has to be repaired by Apple or their authorized third-party via replacement of the entire top case.
Added: The price of the battery doesn't include tax, which most are aware of, nor additional costs Apple can tack on for "diagnostics" and/or other found "faulty" components.
Looked up the average price from other sellers of the '17 15" A1820 batteries and they range in price from $70-80. Now, if Apple would sell the components directly to owners who choose to repair them, then that would be a bonus. Don't see that happening though. Really, no legitimate reason, as to why they couldn't. But, if they have another "software feature" which as to have the battery paired with the replacement MBP like the iPhones, then this is another restriction in place which does more to reduce third-party sales/repairs than it does to protect their "brand recognition".
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Rubbish. My mate had to have the keyboard (of his 2017 13" MBP) replaced 3 times, and every time they (Apple, not iFixit) "repaired" it by replacing the entire top case. He also had the connectors between the screen and the rest of the laptop die, and they "repaired" that by replacing the entire screen. So no, Apple can't repair it any better than iFixit can.
It’s exactly what I said. If you don’t want or need MacOS, you can buy a PC instead. They’re cheaper. Always have been.
If you want to run Final Cut Pro or Logic Pro, you will certainly need MacOS. A lot of applications software is available for Mac and Windows, choose your hardware platform as appropriate.
Except that the only way to get *that speed* from that kind of silicon is to use them as RAID...
So your answer then, if a single component breaks on an otherwise perfectly working object older than 3 years, is to throw the entire object in the bin? Would you have the same attitude about your car? Imagine if car companies started making cars that lacked repairability just like Apple's latest laptops? There would be, no surprise, a whole lot of "whining" like there is on this forum.
You do realise that Final Cut and Logic Pro were only created after many iterations of OS X so as to lure pros to the MacOS platform, and way more viable alternatives existed before?.. And my point was that Pros chose Apple because they had leading hardware, and now haven't!