This is a product demo, not even an alpha product. This should never get launched and sold for money.
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iFixit Teardown of Samsung Galaxy Fold Reveals Likely Design Flaw
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I think this is a misconception and gets said a lot. Samsung doesn’t have to copy anyone to bring something to the market that they believe in, the reality is, they need to bring something to the market not for the product sake of being the first, bring a quality product to the consumer. I think the Fold is a great idea, and has some interesting tech to offer, but the quality control _and_ lack there of R&D testing clearly is not on par with what it should be for $2000.
Early? Are you serious? They were in full on launch mode for this thing to go live and had bloggers and tech writers inform them about their flaws. Their own product people didn't realise or were too afraid to speak up to their bosses. Their own QA is either non-existent or too afraid to raise issues.
Admittedly, it was a bit of an embarrassment to announce something and then have to shelve it, but at least Apple tested it and decided it wasn't possible, rather than releasing something that would overheat and possibly burn peoples houses down.
That is the difference between the two companies right there if we really want to involve Apple in this topic.
Mind the gap.
A desperate company who still think they can become better than Apple by simply releasing products first. When will they learn?
A desperate company who still think they can become better than Apple by simply releasing products first. When will they learn?
Except the X didn’t have any majors flaws before it was even released in the hands of the consumer.
Well, the problem is that I don’t look as cool as Vic Mackey while ending a conversation back in the day.
Samsung has to do it first or Apple won't get any screens for their hypotetical foldable device. Of course I am assuming Huawei won't be allowed to supply Apple.
All of us who have balked at the silly premise of folding phones have always had the basics of durability as its main flaw. I know of no material in existence that can fold perfectly and retain its shape without deforming or tearing indefinitely.
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I disagree with this. Bigger screens are better than smaller screens during use, but they are a nuisance to carry around. Phones have evolved to a point where the screens cannot get bigger, as the phones are already cumbersome to many. Folding, if it worked, would offer both, compact form for carrying and a huge screen.
If the boss ordered to release a product within the deadline at all costs, who would dare to speak up and said the thing should be shelved? Especially when Huawei also announced a similar product and Samsung cannot be later than them otherwise how can Samsung scream "first!"?
Because most flaws projected in the issues are things that should've been resolved prior to releasing these 'prototypes' early.
It smells of a rush-job...which is never a good smell, mind you.
I think this is indicative of a bigger problem than most people realise, or at least, care to admit.
https://daringfireball.net/2019/04/know_when_to_fold_em
And here we are, typing all these posts about a Samsung's faulty unreleased product, using our 4-consecutitve-years faulty MacBook keyboards.
I think this is indicative of a bigger problem than most people realise, or at least, care to admit.
https://daringfireball.net/2019/04/know_when_to_fold_em
I totally agree with this, although this problem maybe isn't about the company Samsung alone; there are more companies which should deliver properly or rescind the product if it will ultimately fail
Darth Tulhu
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The dirt ingress point seems like an easy fix, but it is inexcusable how this made it past any kind of testing.
Someone somewhere said: Frak it! Go ahead and build it.
As much as I think a tablet-in-your-pocket is a cool idea (and not the "solution in search of a problem" many here are proclaiming it as), this device is a HARD lesson for Samsung. And Huawei showed them up anyway with a better-thought-out device.
Although again, too early for this.
It's interesting to see reactions here though, the "cool device but not ready" vs "pointless device that should not exist" and the "release it when it's ready" Apple philosophy vs "release it when we can" Google/Samsung one.
Personally I think both drive the tech forward: Sammy to release first, and Apple to perfect (although without Steve I doubt Apple's capabilities here).
Someone somewhere said: Frak it! Go ahead and build it.
As much as I think a tablet-in-your-pocket is a cool idea (and not the "solution in search of a problem" many here are proclaiming it as), this device is a HARD lesson for Samsung. And Huawei showed them up anyway with a better-thought-out device.
Although again, too early for this.
It's interesting to see reactions here though, the "cool device but not ready" vs "pointless device that should not exist" and the "release it when it's ready" Apple philosophy vs "release it when we can" Google/Samsung one.
Personally I think both drive the tech forward: Sammy to release first, and Apple to perfect (although without Steve I doubt Apple's capabilities here).
Did you read some of the threads on this forum? Lol
Some made the X to be the worst phone ever that was full of flaws.
Notch, no home button, facial recognition, no Touch ID and I’m sure a number of other things.
I applaud Samsung for introducing the foldable phone. The introduced a new phone, beta tested it and are back to the drawing board. Meanwhile back at apple, hey boss what are we going to do with all the useless charging pads.
The foldable phone doesn’t interest me, but it was a bold move by Samsung.
Yet apple shipped how many free cases to iPhone 4 owners.
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Darth Tulhu
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I think that is the wrong point of view: it's not a folding phone so much as a folding, pocketable mini tablet.
If such devices worked as advertised, and had the durability we'd expect, they'd be insanely cool devices.
I take a "glass half full" outlook here, but with a realistic "I ain't paying for this until you fill the rest of the glass" lack of naivete'.
yeah but the same can be said about the butterfly keyboards. In the simplest terms the fold is an obvious physics and durability one that people could spot a mile away without ever having to hold one in their hands. Plastic screens mean deformation, tearing and scratches and dings and failure for a mass market consumer item.I think this is indicative of a bigger problem than most people realise, or at least, care to admit.
https://daringfireball.net/2019/04/know_when_to_fold_em
I don’t disagree, and as I made a comment earlier, “It’s not a good look for Samsung either way”. And the fact that they handed out a defective product to very well renounced tech reviewers makes them look even worse, because they have such a large audience that consumers pay attention to, and this is the aftermath of that. I think this problem could even be on a larger scale _if_ this product had been released, and even though the technology is interesting, this type of issue takes away Samsungs satisfaction. Again, it’s not a good look for Samsung.