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I don't recall the X ever being referred to as a beta/prototype, but more as tomorrow's device here today in comparrison to the iPhone 8's that were still being released. However, even if that were the case, the X didn't have any major design defects discovered within 2 days of use by reviewers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One of several on this place
 
A 7mm gap doesn’t seem like a huge deal? Really? That’s enough to get not only dust in there, but even breadcrumbs and insects and all sorts off stuff.
 
"After reports surfaced that Samsung had postponed a Chinese launch event, Samsung announced on April 22 that the launch (originally set for April 26) had been delayed indefinitely while they work to fix the issue, with plans to announce the new release date sometime within the coming weeks."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Fold

Dude dont bother with him. He is trolling. Semantics and all. It is ok though, makes you realize the kind of double standards these folk carry ;)

Let him enjoy defending Samsung's latest cluster****.

Everybody applause now! ;)
 
Others have commented or questioned why Samsung R&D didn’t catch the potential issues with the screen or fold mechanism, but I’d go a bit further and question how anyone at Samsung with even a basic understanding of what a device goes through on a day to day basis would give a green light on a device like this that has very obvious and catastrophic design flaws?
 
Essentially, it looks as though Samsung was so focused on perfecting the folding mechanism on the smartphone/tablet hybrid that it made a major oversight: providing adequate protection against the ingress of debris between the OLED screen and the chassis bezel.
Typo? Talk about major oversight... Isn't the problem is that it's exposed?
 
Early? Are you serious? They were in full on launch mode for this thing to go live and had bloggers and tech writers inform them about their flaws. Their own product people didn't realise or were too afraid to speak up to their bosses. Their own QA is either non-existent or too afraid to raise issues.

And you think sending devices to reviewers early is just 100% marketing?

You seriously think if Samsung knew they had an inevitably major issue with this device, reviewers wouldn't expose it?

You honestly think Samsung wants to risk another major recall debalce?

IMO, I think Samsung knew of potential risks of their design, but obviously didn't know the severity of it. It's not like they purposely chose to put egg on their face.
 
Dude dont bother with him. He is trolling. Semantics and all. It is ok though, makes you realize the kind of double standards these folk carry ;)

Let him enjoy defending Samsung's latest cluster****.

Everybody applause now! ;)
Trolling?
Please this place is riddled with people exemplifying apple’s failures.
What’s one of the latest one? $1000 tablet bent out of the box? Of course I looked at mine.

I don’t think I ever considered a Samsung device, although my new job will require it.
 
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Anybody can try something new and throw products against the wall to see what sticks. It takes more discipline to resist the urge to release something immediately and actually spend time honing the device to perfection.

Samsung shouldn’t be praised for making their consumers beta testers. We all know it’s just so they can have “we did it first” bragging rights if Apple ever release a foldable display device in future.
If one substitutes "Apple" for "Samsung" and "Samsung" for "Apple" in the above, another possible fact may be observed - especially with the MBP releases the last few years. Both companies have had their premature release issues. I actually think it would behoove these companies to submit newly designed hardware to iFixit prior to placing them on the market. It would make sense to contract a third party such as iFixit to deal with QC, as both Apple and Samsung have had some buggy hardware releases of late. That likely would not happen with Apple, as they are real touchy about releasing hardware details and schematics.
 
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So they’ll need to plug the ends. Seeing as it’s a point of where the two halves meet, I see it as a challenging thing to do in short time.

& time isn’t what Samsung have, since the Mate X & Note 10 releases are approaching. Worst case scenario would be if it’s pushed back even further & it runs into the iPhone release section of the 2019 calendar.

They’d much prefer to stick with a date that’s just about the Fold.
 
Kind of an unacceptable ‘flaw’ from a $2000 tech device. It Makes you wonder how much quality testing was completed on the Fold during the R&D phase. I don’t know that this entirely damages Samsung’s branding, but it doesn’t look good either for what they were calling the ‘future’.

True, just like a keyboard not working on a $2000+ MacBook Pro for three years in a row. I wish companies would spend more time testing their devices instead of shovelling them out.
 
thats the smallest issue in the design, the screen failing under the stress of bending it is much worse than debris.. and harder to fix
Actually they’ve pretty much nailed the durability under bending and bending only. They used a machine to test that and found the display and hinge can take the stress of folding just fine for a certain threshold number (don’t recall it off the top of my head) that most customers aren’t likely to cross. And if they do cross that threshold, no worries, they will get a replacement. The warranty on this device is not the standard restrictive warranty we are used to seeing.

What Samsung either failed to do, or did but scared testers out of giving honest feedback, was test the Folds in real life conditions long enough to get an accurate picture of additional potential failure and stress points apart from the simple stress of folding the display. So they missed how debris ingress could destroy the display quickly.

As much as I was rooting for this device to succeed, I won’t be an apologist for it. I am appalled at how cheap and flimsy and last-minute the display protector that reviewers accidentally removed appears to be. It looks like a joke. The fact it is so easily removed or becomes delaminated from the display is shockingly poor design.

At any rate, I’m not here to be an apologist but I just wanted to refine that point about the display a bit further. Lol, so, if they can manage to pocket-lint proof it, it should last long enough for people to use it normally. But it will still likely require some warranty service, which Samsung has anticipated and is willing to offer.
 
Firstly Apple has had major production issues in the past and blamed it on user/operator error before sheepishly doing a recall.
Secondly this is the price of innovation there will be glitches (though Samsung should have tested more internally.)
The Huawei Mate X does not appear to have the same issue and is way ahead of the iPhone when it comes to innovation, curious to hear the spin Apple fans have for it. As consumers we should applaud new choices, not hope for their failure based on the company.
 
Samsung should have had this tested before it was given to reviewers to test out themselves.

So ifixit got a device to disassemble it?!
I wondered about that too.

It's not out yet, so obviously they were given the device.
If they were given to test, I don’t think Samsung would have allowed them to disassemble it.

I guess the same argument could be made that the iPhone copies Samsung in some aspects, but in this respect, you have to give Samsung due credit for trying something new, even though it is a flawed product, which now it’s their responsibility to make it better moving forward.
I agree. At least Samsung tried to design something different and should not get criticized for it.
 
Others have commented or questioned why Samsung R&D didn’t catch the potential issues with the screen or fold mechanism, but I’d go a bit further and question how anyone at Samsung with even a basic understanding of what a device goes through on a day to day basis would give a green light on a device like this that has very obvious and catastrophic design flaws?
I'd wager the "folding" machine is fairly sterile in it's use and Korean testers are probably more fastidious than American ones. It appears cultural differences helped expose mechanical flaws.
 
Firstly Apple has had major production issues in the past and blamed it on user/operator error before sheepishly doing a recall.
Secondly this is the price of innovation there will be glitches (though Samsung should have tested more internally.)
The Huawei Mate X does not appear to have the same issue and is way ahead of the iPhone when it comes to innovation, curious to hear the spin Apple fans have for it. As consumers we should applaud new choices, not hope for their failure based on the company.

Innovation doesnt mean crap if there are major design faults. This isnt a glitch. This isnt a hiccup...

The fact that people are willing to justify this at the expense of "innovation" is just ridiculous.

Innovation is not just to be the first one to do something, but to be the one to do it RIGHT. Samsung folk can claim that Iris scan is the first facial recognition system, but you have to be a certain kind of fanboy not to realize just how much better/secure and innovative is Face ID compared to it, even if it took more years to actually release. But when it did, it actually worked as advertised. That is true innovation.
 
Hyperbole should not reign over reason. Taking an unbiased look, the Samsung Fold is a work of modern art, surpassing the likes of antiquated vestiges like the Mona Lisa, David, and Othello. Credit where credit is due. No one wants “productivity” or “creativity” on their phones or computers. We want novelty. If it folds, it’s cool. If it has a curved display, it’s cool. People brandish phones and use them to consume content. That’s all. So stop it, Apple. Clips? Music Memos? Siri Shortcuts? Health? Measure? News? No. Just no. You are embarrassing yourself.

It really shows you what kind of company Apple and Samsung are when one focuses on novelty like folding phones and the other focuses on nonsense like TrueDepth.
[doublepost=1556110991][/doublepost]Spoken like a true believer in the Samsung Defense Force.
 
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