iLife '05 and iWork '05

[BWhaler]

How will the iLife 05 and iWork 05 do on the Mac mini 1.42Ghz 512MB RAM

It will work just fine. Most Mac people have less hardware than that, so Apple engineers for a lower bar than you are buying.

 

[Platform]

It will work just fine. Most Mac people have less hardware than that, so Apple engineers for a lower bar than you are buying.

Thank you
How about Photoshop and Tiger ++ (heard that it will run ok but does anyone know if this machine will last for another OS or will it then be usless )

 

[Platform]

They'll work fine and dandy with that setup, no problems!

Thanks
This machine become better and better for every day that goes

 

[3Memos]

It will work just fine. Most Mac people have less hardware than that, so Apple engineers for a lower bar than you are buying.

iDVD is a tad slow in loading up, but once running, its quite fast. Hopefully, iLife '05, they'll make it even faster.

 

[wdlove]

Thank you
How about Photoshop and Tiger ++ (heard that it will run ok but does anyone know if this machine will last for another OS or will it then be usless )

Since the Mac mini has just been release, it was designed with Tiger in mind. Photoshop likes memory, you can never have enough. You want to consider increasing memory.

 

[weldon]

Nah, on Monday after the keynote, it was $49.00, which is what I remember paying last year for '04.

Ummm, the keynote was on Tuesday. If you checked the price on Monday you were looking at the price for iLife '04, which was $49.

 

[LaMerVipere]

Question:

In the iWork '05 System Requirements, it recommends having iLife '04 or later. Err...I never bothered buying iLife '04, and I don't want to buy iLife '05 just to buy Tiger a few months later, and have it come with that!

GAH. Anyone know how well iWork would run using the pre-iLife '04 versions of iTunes/iPhoto/etc...

And also, how compatible is Keynote with PowerPoint? I mean, do all the fancy transitions and effects you can do in Keynote also work when you open or display the presentation in PowerPoint?

 

[paulman]

Predictions for iWork 06!

I reckon Apple will add iWeb (basic web design), Cells or iBudget (mentioned earlier in this forum). Most people don't use databases so filemaker would always be a standalone app.

BTW I'm really excited about iWork and its made me wanna switch sooner. But I will be waiting until both Tiger and new iBooks are released. Hopefully by April.

 

[James_C]

Question:

In the iWork '05 System Requirements, it recommends having iLife '04 or later. Err...I never bothered buying iLife '04, and I don't want to buy iLife '05 just to buy Tiger a few months later, and have it come with that!

GAH. Anyone know how well iWork would run using the pre-iLife '04 versions of iTunes/iPhoto/etc...

And also, how compatible is Keynote with PowerPoint? I mean, do all the fancy transitions and effects you can do in Keynote also work when you open or display the presentation in PowerPoint?

iLife 05 will not come with Tiger, it is a separate application. Apple simply installs iLife and the OS on new computers, iLife is not part of the OS.

iWorks, although it will work fine by itself are designed to take media from the iLife Apps, e.g. photos from iPhoto into one of the Pages templates, or songs from iTunes into Keynote. If you don't have at least iLife 04 you may not have that direct integration. However there should not be anything to stop you from manually exporting and then importing into the iWork Apps.

 

[LaMerVipere]

iLife 05 will not come with Tiger, it is a separate application. Apple simply installs iLife and the OS on new computers, iLife is not part of the OS.

iWorks, although it will work fine by itself are designed to take media from the iLife Apps, e.g. photos from iPhoto into one of the Pages templates, or songs from iTunes into Keynote. If you don't have at least iLife 04 you may not have that direct integration. However there should not be anything to stop you from manually exporting and then importing into the iWork Apps.

GAH. Thank you for informing me!

 

[mdriftmeyer]

iWorks will in no way be crippled without iLife '05. That is completely misleading to make a statement that iLife won't be able to take photos or other media without iLife.

From iWork page at Apple.

Pages supports the most popular graphic file formats, including JPEG, TIFF and even Adobe Photoshop's native PSD format. Alignment guides (like those in Keynote) help you precisely place everything on your page. And with the freeform graphics canvas, you get live feedback when you resize, move or rotate images. The text even flows around your graphics instantly.

Pages includes 40 Apple-designed templates for all our customers - from letters to newsletters, stationery to brochures, school reports to white papers. But the real sweet spot? Templates designed to let you take advantage of your iLife content. Like Travel Journal, which has gorgeous photo frames for your images and text styles that really make your story look great. Family Newsletter includes page designs that let you create media-rich pages that mix pictures and text. Or, if you like, you can add a page with nothing but text. And business owners will find templates that make it easy to create flyers, white papers and even brochures that include iLife content.

Sure they make it more seemless to have iLife but it is just a piece of functionality that won't be evident until you have iLife '05 installed. It's called Services in the Cocoa world.

iLife 05 will not come with Tiger, it is a separate application. Apple simply installs iLife and the OS on new computers, iLife is not part of the OS.

iWorks, although it will work fine by itself are designed to take media from the iLife Apps, e.g. photos from iPhoto into one of the Pages templates, or songs from iTunes into Keynote. If you don't have at least iLife 04 you may not have that direct integration. However there should not be anything to stop you from manually exporting and then importing into the iWork Apps.

 

[Platform]

Since the Mac mini has just been release, it was designed with Tiger in mind. Photoshop likes memory, you can never have enough. You want to consider increasing memory.

512MB Ram would that be enough because 1GB cost too much $425

 

[James_C]

512MB Ram would that be enough because 1GB cost too much $425

I believe for most users 512MB would be enough. You will only see a marginal difference going from 512MB to 1GB, unless you are planning a lot of big multi layer photoshop files. You can buy 3rd Party Ram from say crucial.com for example, it is a lot cheaper than Apple if you really feel you need the 1GB.

 

[Platform]

I believe for most users 512MB would be enough. You will only see a marginal difference going from 512MB to 1GB, unless you are planning a lot of big multi layer photoshop files. You can buy 3rd Party Ram from say crucial.com for example, it is a lot cheaper than Apple if you really feel you need the 1GB.

Thank you

 

[autrefois]

Does anyone know or have speculation about whether Pages will have other language localizations? Keynote does, iLife does. It'd be really nice to have a word processor that can have menus in other languages. MS Word has spell and grammar check in other languages, but the menus are in the language of the country where you buy it. I hope Pages will at least have spell check in other languages (if not included, available for download at least), but FULL localizations would be really appreciated.

 

[3Memos]

Looks like you cant order Photo Books until at least the 22nd of January.

 

[amberashby]

Delivery

Apple says deliver by Jan 22nd. Do you guys think that means they will start shipping tomorrow?

 

[3Memos]

Apple says deliver by Jan 22nd. Do you guys think that means they will start shipping tomorrow?

Most likely it ships from the factory on the 22nd. So it wont arrive at resellers until a few days later. The Apple store may have them immediately available on the 22nd though.

 

[wdlove]

Most likely it ships from the factory on the 22nd. So it wont arrive at resellers until a few days later. The Apple store may have them immediately available on the 22nd though.

Yes, from what Steve said during his Keynote the software should be available at local Apple Stores on the 22nd. Those that order over night and second day should have chance to receive on 22nd.

 

[Loge]

I reckon Apple will add iWeb (basic web design), Cells or iBudget (mentioned earlier in this forum). Most people don't use databases so filemaker would always be a standalone app.

I would hope they keep the applications fairly generic, so it would make better sense to include a spreadsheet program, with financial management "iBudget" provided as a template, rather than a dedicated application.

 

[JediL1]

Yes, from what Steve said during his Keynote the software should be available at local Apple Stores on the 22nd. Those that order over night and second day should have chance to receive on 22nd.

Actually, I ordered panther with regular delivery before whatever date it was to be shipped and it actually arrived on the date that it showed up in retail stores. So I'm hoping my iLife '05 arrives on Jan. 22 instead of waiting.

 

[Eastend]

Localizations

Does anyone know or have speculation about whether Pages will have other language localizations? Keynote does, iLife does. It'd be really nice to have a word processor that can have menus in other languages. MS Word has spell and grammar check in other languages, but the menus are in the language of the country where you buy it. I hope Pages will at least have spell check in other languages (if not included, available for download at least), but FULL localizations would be really appreciated.

I live in Japan and I do know that when I change the menu to English all iLife applications are in English. So I do know that it works in English and Japanese after that cannot help you. One thing I do not like is that Appleworks help menus are all in Japanese no matter what I do. You have to go into Preferences International to change your language settings. Actually Apple is good with their software, I have Adobe Illustrator and you should see how the menus look in English, it's the Japanese version and it did not have English in it. Thank the heavens I can get the Japanese menus.

Brian

 

[Tulse]

I reckon Apple will add iWeb (basic web design)

Pages will export as HTML, although God knows what the actual code it produces looks like. Given .Mac, I'm not sure if Apple has an interest in producing a stand-alone web design app that doesn't force people to use that service.

 

[Zaty]

Pages PDF export

I finally ordered iWork and iLife 05. I took some time because I wasn't sure if I needed Pages and Keynote since I already have Office 2004. I decided to give it a try because Word and PowerPoint are so CPU intensive apps. For most I was intrigued by the fact that Pages can create PDF files. Now my question: Does it use OS X's PDF functionality (which is not great because it creates bloated PDFs) or does it have it's one, better PDF creator? Any ideas?

 

[rdowns]

DVD drive required to install

I see a lot of PO'd people who ordered this and have no DVD drive to install. I was until I figured I'd hook up my iBook to emac I want to insotall it on and install on emac from iBook.

Requirements form iWork page:

iWork System Requirements
Macintosh computer with 500MHz or faster PowerPC G3, G4 or G5 (G4 for PowerBook); G4 or G5 recommended
128MB of RAM (512MB recommended)
8MB of video memory (32MB recommended)
Mac OS X v10.3.6 or later
QuickTime 6.5 or later
iLife ’04 or later recommended
1GB of available disk space
DVD drive required to install applications