iLife, iWork and OS X Updates Will Continue to Be Free in the Future

[Michael Goff]

is this like the "loophole" Apple uses for taxation?

not to start anything. I just read what you wrote and thought about how many on here either like/dislike Apple taxation/earnings procedures. Maybe Apple saves $ and now offer updates for Free...and some people save $ and are able to buy a new Mac/iOS device sooner.

I'm happy they have the FREE software. hoping the New Aperture coming "soon" rocks and is NOT a downgrade.

No, no. When Apple does it, this is because they're the good guys making sure that they get out of paying the evil robber barons. When you do it, it's just "using an exploit". The key difference is that you're not Apple. If you were Apple, it'd be you doing the right thing, being clever, etc.

 

[BJMRamage]

No, no. When Apple does it, this is because they're the good guys making sure that they get out of paying the evil robber barons. When you do it, it's just "using an exploit". The key difference is that you're not Apple. If you were Apple, it'd be you doing the right thing, being clever, etc.

good point.

Though, if there is a loophole in the taxation. then the loophole should be closed...not just picking some to stop using it and others still could use it.

 

[nikomakhos]

I have iPhoto 9.4.3 and Appstore is not offering me any updates. So how does this free 9.5 version actually work? Appstore is still asking me to pay 13,99€ for it. That's not free. Same thing for iMovie. GarageBand seems to be the only app that's actually offered for free.

 

[cjmillsnun]

Free "OS X" updates, but this is 10.9 so surely the next update is likely to be OS XI is it not

No. you can have 10.10

 

[Bill Killer]

Apple is expensive because of the following;

Engineering - What other company goes into so much detail about every part, even on the inside where a consumer can't see?

Design - Apple designs their products to be thin and light, and still be usable.

Material - Aluminum. It's more expensive than plastic, puts up with more abuse, and looks nicer.

Quality - For the most part, the quality of parts used is much greater. While I can't back it up with facts - too lazy to look - I'm sure the quantity of failure is much less than that of Dell and HP.

Software - While the software may not be as powerful, it sure has a great UI and UX.

Support - Apple support is something that no one else can really beat. You get free diagnostics, even after your warranty expired. You get a basic 90 days of phone support and 1 year warranty that can be done in store, or mail-in. And 99% of the time, I never had an issue with Apple support or understanding their techs.

These are the components that make the price of an Apple product more expensive.

Are you applying for Apple's PR department with this post?

 

[Morrile]

Coming in 2014: OS XI

Apple CEO Steve Jobs broke his time-honored mold today, quietly announcing the framework for the much-anticipated Mac OS XI, an iTunes-based operating system that, as he said to a small audience of industry pundits, "really sings between system calls."

 

[mcnallym]

I have iPhoto 9.4.3 and Appstore is not offering me any updates. So how does this free 9.5 version actually work? Appstore is still asking me to pay 13,99€ for it. That's not free. Same thing for iMovie. GarageBand seems to be the only app that's actually offered for free.

Are you running 10.9 or 10.8.

My MBPro when on 10.8 showed no update. Updated to 10.9 signed out and into the AppStore and updates for iWorks and iLife apps appeared.

 

[Elbon]

Wish it was really free. Owners of iLife apps before '11 are still being charged for upgrades, a week after this was supposed to have been fixed.

I thought that you had to have iLife '11 in order to qualify, since that was the most recent version. Similarly, you had to have the most recent version of iWork (which was '09). I didn't have any problem upgrading for free once I had installed Mavericks.

 

[IJ Reilly]

I thought that you had to have iLife '11 in order to qualify, since that was the most recent version. Similarly, you had to have the most recent version of iWork (which was '09). I didn't have any problem upgrading for free once I had installed Mavericks.

At the announcement Apple was unclear on this point, and even their PR was unclear. To make matters even more unclear, some are saying they are getting the free upgrades without iLife '11.

 

[mrgreeneyes]

i do i get them for free?

 

[9000]

After you upgrade your iWork, you should be able to go to finder - applications - iWork09 and find your old iWork 09 still there.

I think why iWork is free and it is kinda LITE is apple wants to integrate the OS X, ios and icloud together. Rather than put the OS X version at a far advanced stage compare to other platform they put all at the same baseline. This could eliminate the sharing incompatibility.

Maybe that's why they keep the iWork 09 on your drive instead of overwriting it.

Good to know, but I'm still not going to bother updating. I don't care if my iWork is as hip as the iOS version, especially since I don't have an iPad and won't have one any time soon if ever.

Time Machine is your friend with updates that overwrite stuff. Mavericks totally @#$%ed up my mom's iMac, and I just restored it to ML.

 

[G4DP]

Apple is expensive because of the following;

Engineering - What other company goes into so much detail about every part, even on the inside where a consumer can't see?

Design - Apple designs their products to be thin and light, and still be usable.

Material - Aluminum. It's more expensive than plastic, puts up with more abuse, and looks nicer.

Quality - For the most part, the quality of parts used is much greater. While I can't back it up with facts - too lazy to look - I'm sure the quantity of failure is much less than that of Dell and HP.

Software - While the software may not be as powerful, it sure has a great UI and UX.

Support - Apple support is something that no one else can really beat. You get free diagnostics, even after your warranty expired. You get a basic 90 days of phone support and 1 year warranty that can be done in store, or mail-in. And 99% of the time, I never had an issue with Apple support or understanding their techs.

These are the components that make the price of an Apple product more expensive.

What complete BS!

Engineering? - There products are not well engineered. Every tower is a vacumm cleaner. As for the new one, that'll suck up even more dust. The only thing well engineered about Apple products is for them to make the most money possible.

Design? - Where form now takes priority of function.

Material? Apple are not the only ones and not the first to make laptops from metals. They are just the first to make a big song and dance about it. Hell I had a computer 25 years ago that was made from Aluminum.

Quality? - they use bog standard parts like every other PC manufacturer. The only thing special are the new GPU's in the MacPro. Even they are re-branded models on a custom board. Nothing special.

Software? Becoming less and less powerful and useful as time progress'. In fact it's regressing to the to the lowest educated user.

Support? They offer the least amount of support they can by law. For the prices they charge there should be a 3 year warranty with all Apple products as standard.

 

[pilgrim2812]

My concern to free is that iWork will always be an inferior product. Seems like Apple cannot understand how important a robust office suite is. Makes the difference between the Mac being a business tool or a business toy.

 

[SusanK]

My concern to free is that iWork will always be an inferior product. Seems like Apple cannot understand how important a robust office suite is. Makes the difference between the Mac being a business tool or a business toy.

My concern is that executive management at Apple is only interested in producing iToys going forward. Hope I am wrong.

I really love my Mac.

 

[pilgrim2812]

What complete BS!

Engineering? - There products are not well engineered. Every tower is a vacumm cleaner. As for the new one, that'll suck up even more dust. The only thing well engineered about Apple products is for them to make the most money possible.

Design? - Where form now takes priority of function.

Material? Apple are not the only ones and not the first to make laptops from metals. They are just the first to make a big song and dance about it. Hell I had a computer 25 years ago that was made from Aluminum.

Quality? - they use bog standard parts like every other PC manufacturer. The only thing special are the new GPU's in the MacPro. Even they are re-branded models on a custom board. Nothing special.

Software? Becoming less and less powerful and useful as time progress'. In fact it's regressing to the to the lowest educated user.

Support? They offer the least amount of support they can by law. For the prices they charge there should be a 3 year warranty with all Apple products as standard.

What kind of meth are you smoking? I will agree with you about the software however. iWork in some respects is little more than a toy.

 

[mawen]

apple is so generous.

 

[imacken]

My concern to free is that iWork will always be an inferior product. Seems like Apple cannot understand how important a robust office suite is. Makes the difference between the Mac being a business tool or a business toy.

The Mac is made a business tool by software produced by companies like Adobe and Microsoft. Leading products that communicate with the rest of the world.
iWorks is a pretty, niche product which is largely useless when communicating with the business world.

 

[Taz Mangus]

I thought they were continuing with OS X "for the next ten years"?

That was the plan when OS X 10.0 was released in 2001. Now past the 10 year mark.

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I have iPhoto 9.4.3 and Appstore is not offering me any updates. So how does this free 9.5 version actually work? Appstore is still asking me to pay 13,99€ for it. That's not free. Same thing for iMovie. GarageBand seems to be the only app that's actually offered for free.

When I opened iPhoto I got a popup message telling me that there was an update available. Have you tried this?

 

[Michael Goff]

That was the plan when OS X 10.0 was released in 2001. Now past the 10 year mark.

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When I opened iPhoto I got a popup message telling me that there was an update available. Have you tried this?

So he said that they're changing from cats to have a new name for "OS X for the next decade" for ***** and giggles?

 

[Taz Mangus]

So he said that they're changing from cats to have a new name for "OS X for the next decade" for ***** and giggles?

I was referring to the original reference made by Steve Jobs. I did not realize that Tim Cook said the same thing about the new naming convention. You can calm down now. My mistake.

 

[Razeus]

So he said that they're changing from cats to have a new name for "OS X for the next decade" for ***** and giggles?

I would have preferred Apple to use names of solar systems or galaxies, citing their use of that theme of wallpapers.

 

[Michael Goff]

I was referring to the original reference made by Steve Jobs. I did not realize that Tim Cook said the same thing about the new naming convention. You can calm down now. My mistake.

Tim Cook didn't say it, it was... Craig Federghali or however you spell his name.

I would have preferred Apple to use names of solar systems or galaxies, citing their use of that theme of wallpapers.

Meh, I like the name they chose. I don't know how well I'd like OS X Milky Way or Andromeda or whatever

 

[Zellio]

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During today's financial results conference call for the third calendar and fourth fiscal quarter of 2013, Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer indicated Apple will continue to offer iWork, iLife, and OS X for free for the foreseeable future.

When OS X Mavericks was released last Tuesday, Apple announced that for the first time ever, OS X system updates would be available to customers at no charge. At the time, it was unclear whether the upgrade would be a one time affair or if the company would continue to provide OS X updates for free.

In addition to providing Mavericks for free, Apple will also give free copies of its iWork and iLife apps to users who purchase a new Mac or iOS device, and will continue to provide the software free of charge in the future as well.

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"We wanted all of our customers to have access to our very latest software so they can get the best features," said Oppenheimer. "We wanted to make it a part of the experience."

Apple's choice to offer Mavericks and its suite of iWork/iLife apps for free will contribute to a $900 million increase in deferred net revenue in the December quarter. Apple defers recognizing small amounts of revenue on Macs and iOS devices to comply with obscure account regulations over feature updates to purchased hardware. Deferrals will be recorded over two years for iOS devices and over four years for Macs.

Article Link: iLife, iWork and OS X Updates Will Continue to Be Free in the Future

Well Apple gets their money from hardware upgrades, not software.

 

[BC2009]

Source for that dubious assertion?

My experience in PC sales was that customers upgraded Windows every 6-7 years.

Microsoft has already said they are moving to annual updates.

 

[D.T.]

That's what I have, but the MAS still wants to charge me for the updates. No workarounds that I can find make any difference.

I’m using the iLive that came bundled with the wife’s ’10 MBP, as soon as I updated to Mavericks (this morning), iPhoto and iMovie both came up with free updates vs. showing $xx.xx when I was still on ML.

What OS are you running?