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iLife - Last Minute Reconsideration?

Re: Re: Re: Do your research!

Originally posted by JBracy


Yes it is the same mechanism. However, it has different firmware which iDVD checks on launch. If it doesn't see the Apple FirmWare then it quits with a message that it can't find the correct hardware. At least that's what happens with the current iDVD. Maybe they've changed it with version 3, but no one outside of Apple will know until it ships.
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I have a PowerMac that I've installed a Pioneer DVD AO4 into, with Pioneer stock firmware, and it runs iDVD 2.1 beautifully. I just hope to hell the new version won't block out OEM drive buyers.
 
Re: Free Apps, Free the Apps!

Originally posted by MikeUnicode
It's easier to convince people to switch to mac,
when it comes loaded with these FREE apps.
Remember, most people has a Windows software set that will not run on a mac, unless they BUY Virtual PC.

Make them pay for these APPs and suddenly they has much less reason to switch!

It's bad enough they have to buy a copy of MS Office for 200 bucks.

Apple should load AppleWorks on ALL it's machines.

Really, in a war you've got to play to WIN.

( Good job with Safari. )
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If you think about switching to a Mac, wouldn't you not care if people pay for iLife or not, since the iApps come free on new computers? Or do they not? I thought that if you bought a new comp, it was Apple's responsiblity to put iMovie, iTunes, iPhoto, and in the case of a SuperDrive, iDVD. Am I wrong?:(
 
Re: We already knew this - this is not new news!!

Originally posted by terevos
Hey guys.. umm.. this doesn't seem like news to me. Macslash had reported this the day of the keynote.

"And, of course, the price. This new suite of iMedia iApps, now called iLife will retail at $49 and will be available on Saturday January 25. It will bundled with all new Macs. In addition, you can download iTunes 3, iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 for free."

So I don't see why this is a rumor, nor why people think this is something new. This was reported since their initial announcement of the iLife product line.
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The rumor isn't that these apps are available for free... as you said - everyone knows this.

The rumor is that Apple changed its plans at the last minute.

arn
 
Re: There may be truth to this

Originally posted by Sol
By the way, is it just me or was the iPhoto demonstration with the photo of the kid with freckles a bit mean? Steve Jobs demonstrated how with the new healing brush you could delete scratches, blemishes and even freckles from pictures of your kids. Excuse me but if kids are not entitled to have scratches, blemishes and freckles then who is? Forget the healing brush and love your kids for the way they are, not what you wish they were.
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Re: There may be truth to this

Originally posted by Sol
By the way, is it just me or was the iPhoto demonstration with the photo of the kid with freckles a bit mean? Steve Jobs demonstrated how with the new healing brush you could delete scratches, blemishes and even freckles from pictures of your kids. Excuse me but if kids are not entitled to have scratches, blemishes and freckles then who is? Forget the healing brush and love your kids for the way they are, not what you wish they were.
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No in my opinin I dont think it was wrong or mean. For a couple of years I had very bad ance and a deep depression to go wit it. Only until about a year on Acutane I looked good again. If I took pictures with pimples on my face, I would love to heal it and make it look better. saying editing a couple of pimples on your son and daughter means you dont love them they way they are is in very stupid in my opinion. I have already used the healing brush many times in iPhoto2 just to touch up of my pictures where I may have had an outbreak or a red spot that day. saying you dont love your kids when you do that is just wrong.

iJon
 
Re: Re: We already knew this - this is not new news!!

Originally posted by arn


The rumor isn't that these apps are available for free... as you said - everyone knows this.

The rumor is that Apple changed its plans at the last minute.

arn
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Hey arn, I thought everyone was just going to ignore that post.

:)

i_b_joshua
 
Re: There may be truth to this

Originally posted by Sol
In the way he announced what will be free and will be charged for he gave me the impression that he was a little nervous, even unsure of himself. Maybe experience told him to expect the worst from the audience (and Mac users everywhere).
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I was thinking the same thing, but then that might have been neveriousness because he wasn't sure the audience would understand what was free.
 
I thought this was obvious back then after the Keynote?

You could tell by the way Steve carefully made sure we all understood that 3 of the apps would be free and a reminder that iDVD had never been free etc. His demeanour, inflexion etc all led me to believe right then, (before this latest Think secret 'revelation') that Apple had made a last minute change to iLife pricing.

Further (circumstantial) evidence of this last minute change by Apple is how confused all the press and anal-ysts were after Macworld keynote. Associated Press etc all insisted after the Keynote that iLife apps are no longer free - none of them - and will cost $49. Obviously they were confused by earlier, insider, info from Apple before Apple changed things.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/789/3579007.html
 
My aunt attended MWSF and sent me a bunch of pamphlets and stuff from it. In her package she included and iLife brochure which (I would think) was printed at least 3 or 4 days before MW.

It says, and I quote

"iTunes 3 is included with iLife, and remains freely downloadable from Apple's Web site (www.apple.com/itunes). iPhoto 2, iMovie 3, and iDVD 3 will NOT be downloadable."
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Is that enough proof to show that it was a last minute decision?

-Zach
 
Originally posted by ezkimo
My aunt attended MWSF and sent me a bunch of pamphlets and stuff from it. In her package she included and iLife brochure which (I would think) was printed at least 3 or 4 days before MW.

It says, and I quote



Is that enough proof to show that it was a last minute decision?

-Zach
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Sounds like it to me.

i_b_joshua
 
Re: Re: We already knew this - this is not new news!!

Originally posted by arn


The rumor isn't that these apps are available for free... as you said - everyone knows this.

The rumor is that Apple changed its plans at the last minute.

arn
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Ahh.. you are correct. My bad. Thank you for the clarification.
 
Re: There may be truth to this

Originally posted by Sol
That Apple made a last-minute change is something that I suspected while watching Steve Jobs' keynote.
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I read somewhere that iLife is distributed on 2 DVDs. If that's the case, the supposition that Jobs changed his mind at the last minute doesn't make much sense. Apple still sells computers without DVD drives. These computers all support iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3, but if the only way to get them is on DVD, that shuts out the non-DVD Macs.

Makes more sense that selling the bundle with iDVD 3 as the only paid upgrade -- the other apps included for convenience -- was always the plan. After all, you only need iDVD 3 if you have a Superdrive and everyone with a Superdrive can read DVDs.

Presumably the physical format for distribution of iLife was decided some time before the product announcement.
 
Re: Re: There may be truth to this

Originally posted by sanford


I read somewhere that iLife is distributed on 2 DVDs. If that's the case, the supposition that Jobs changed his mind at the last minute doesn't make much sense. Apple still sells computers without DVD drives. These computers all support iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3, but if the only way to get them is on DVD, that shuts out the non-DVD Macs.

Makes more sense that selling the bundle with iDVD 3 as the only paid upgrade -- the other apps included for convenience -- was always the plan. After all, you only need iDVD 3 if you have a Superdrive and everyone with a Superdrive can read DVDs.

Presumably the physical format for distribution of iLife was decided some time before the product announcement.
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actuall i remember hearing it would be on 2 cd's and 1 dvd. apple cant put it all on dvds because not everyone has a dvd rom in their computer. but what i read was 2 cd's, 1 dvd. ill see if i can find out where i read it, may have been apple's site possibly.

iJon
 
ok here we go, i found it. i was wrong. 1 cd and 1 dvd.

iJon
 

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