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iLife Updates (iTunes, iMovie, iPhoto, iDVD, New App)

Originally posted by BeyondCloister
Just a shame that the new iLife costs so much in the UK compared to the US.

£39 ($71) in the UK compared to the £26 ($49) in the US. There is no way tax is that bad here.

I guess we should think ourselves lucky that the dollar is so weak right now otherwise it might of cost even more!
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Its even worse with education prices, they just change the currency straight from dollars to pounds without any exchange consideration. £29 ($52) in the uk and $29 in the US.

And I would complain about the iPod mini being 2 months later over here, but its the first really ugly apple product for ages. I really hope those images dont do the actual product justice.
 
macworld

All in all, what a disappointing keynote. The mini logic seems to be flawed. Would have been far more impressive if it were $49 LESS than the competition. By the same logic why not just pay $49 more and get a regular iPOD with its great storage capacity?

And as impressive as Garage Band is, for most people who are not musicians, and who don't have any of the peripherals, it's no big deal.

And the classical music addition is nice to iTunes, but there's still no way to easily organize classical playlists, as you need to retype titles to make sure the play in the right order, which is not alphabetical.

Watched whole keynote (with some naps) to hear about a truly great new product, but it never came.
 
Are they making us pay for the iPhoto upgrade? What a shame. It's always been a free application. To tell you the truth it is so slow as to be almost unusable on my brand new Aluminum PowerBook. I was hoping the performance improvements might make me reconsider it as an option for managing photos.
 
Originally posted by dukemeiser
Yes, it is a terrible shame that we should have to pay for quality applications. These should be FREE! Because, as you know, it is such a pain in the rear to have to actually spend money for something.
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Sure, but that means they have to start competing with other products. Why should I pay for iPhoto if Kodak gives me a free program that I can use with ofoto, and get prints for 29c each, instead of iPhoto's 49c each?
 
It doesn't appear as if there is a new version of iTunes at all. The new Billboard chart functionality is server-side, within the Music Store.

We already have it, so no need to complain. 😉
 
Iphoto for win

Well, if we are going to share photos through Iphoto, it is time to make a windows version, too.

On the whole I like the new Ilife. But the remark that 50% of the households have a musician, doesn't seem to make much sense. I play the french horn. So? Now I can play french horn through a keyboard?
 
complaints, complaints. . .

I don't understand why so many people are complaining. At this point it's still not clear whether or not the suite will be available as a free download (sans iDVD and GarageBand). If it is, then there is no basis for complaining. If it isn't, you'll still be able to download iTunes for free, and the old version of iPhoto and iMovie still work very well. Since Soundtrack($299) is now part of GarageBand, paying $49 for the whole shebang seems like a great deal to me. And it's only $29 with edu discount.

If you don't need it or want it, don't buy it. I'd gladly pay the $29 just to play around with GarageBand.
 
Originally posted by dukemeiser
Yes, it is a terrible shame that we should have to pay for quality applications. These should be FREE! Because, as you know, it is such a pain in the rear to have to actually spend money for something.
And Mircrosoft expects me to pay for Office 2004? Get real! It should be free too...

Please people, stop whining. Why should Apple spend $ and time on great software and then give it away? Doesn't sound like a very good business model to me.

I just ordered my copy of iLife, you can too.
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It was inevitable that Apple started charging for iApps, and $49 is not too bad if you use all of the programs. I personally don't use iMovie or iDVD so do I want to spend the money on an iPhoto upgrade and Garage Band? I haven't made up my mind yet.
 
Originally posted by dukemeiser
Yes, it is a terrible shame that we should have to pay for quality applications. These should be FREE! Because, as you know, it is such a pain in the rear to have to actually spend money for something.
And Mircrosoft expects me to pay for Office 2004? Get real! It should be free too...

Please people, stop whining. Why should Apple spend $ and time on great software and then give it away? Doesn't sound like a very good business model to me.

I just ordered my copy of iLife, you can too.
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Give the customer what they want... its the best business model that there is I'm afraid. I am more than willing though to pay £26 for iLife 04 - but £39 - thanks whoever pointed out this obvious inequity in the universe, thankfully I have friends in America!
 
Originally posted by dukemeiser
Please people, stop whining. Why should Apple spend $ and time on great software and then give it away? Doesn't sound like a very good business model to me.

I just ordered my copy of iLife, you can too. [/B]
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Please people, if you have the money to burn, go for it. For the rest of us who wish Apple would fix the slow iPhoto, whose price was included in the price we paid for our machines on the assumption that the slowness would be fixed, we should complain as loud as we want without hearing your sarcasm.
 
Disappointed

I have to chime in here as well and say that I'm also disappointed in some of the news today. NOT that I'm disappointed in the products themselves mind you. I just don't like that I have to now BUY the entire iLife suite. I already have iTunes, I rarely use iDVD, so I don't have a strong need for that. GarageBand is definitely a cool new app, but I personally have no need for it. iMovie is fine the way it is, although the new features are welcome. Overall, I really only need iPhoto, because the current version is a dog in perfomance, so the new speed enhancements I REALLY want. So, I'm supposed to pay $50 for iPhoto, and discard the rest! Come on Apple! Stop nickle and diming us already! This marks a bad departure from the past where iTunes, iPhoto and iMovie have been free downloads for so long. This could be the 1st time I don't upgrade to the new versions. Disappointing. 🙁

And those new iPod minis--- what the f*ck are they thinking pricing it at $250!! That does NOT target the cheap flash MP3 player users at all! It's only a mere $50 cheaper than the 15 Gig iPod!! Why would anyone buy this!?
Now, I'm not one of those who believes Apple should have a $100 iPod. That's just not realistic, but $199 WOULD have been realistic. Apple, Apple, Apple, what are ya doin'! Take a small hit on price and you corner the market! Idiots! I really don't get their pricing schemes at times. Stop trying to make so much profit, and think of the big picture already! 😕
 
I wonder about the builiding of an Idvd project without a superdrive. I hope it makes a Video_TS/Audio_TS folder and I can burn it with toast! Way to expensive to put an internal burner in my Tibook.

smigs
 
I just bought an iBook less than 2 weeks ago. Do you think they will offer me an up-to-date "free" (minus the bogus 19.99 processing, shipping for an envelope) upgrade?? How big of a window do they usually allow for stuff like this??
 
Re: Iphoto for win

Originally posted by jernie
Well, if we are going to share photos through Iphoto, it is time to make a windows version, too.

On the whole I like the new Ilife. But the remark that 50% of the households have a musician, doesn't seem to make much sense. I play the french horn. So? Now I can play french horn through a keyboard?
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I think the idea was that you can record your French horn and, like, e-mail it to your Grandma or something.

And I doubt there will be an iPhoto for Windows - iTunes only migrated because of the music store, and they would gain little benefit from porting the rest of the iApps. The whole sharing via Rendezvous thing is more than likely ramping up for some kind of home-media server or something that will share to a TV, methinks.
 
Re: Disappointed

Originally posted by MM2270
And those new iPod minis--- what the f*ck are they thinking pricing it at $250!! That does NOT target the cheap flash MP3 player users at all! It's only a mere $50 cheaper than the 15 Gig iPod!! Why would anyone buy this!?
Now, I'm not one of those who believes Apple should have a $100 iPod. That's just not realistic, but $199 WOULD have been realistic. Apple, Apple, Apple, what are ya doin'! Take a small hit on price and you corner the market! Idiots! I really don't get their pricing schemes at times. Stop trying to make so much profit, and think of the big picture already! 😕
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This is so typical of Apple. I was hoping that they would not drop the ball on this, but it looks like they did. That $50 difference between what they should be charging and what they are charging for these things will kill Apple's potential to dominate here. Oh well, this is nothing new for us.
 
Ok, But now what...

Well the mini iPods are neat...And iLife package is OK...But now what...


Nothing....

I think Apple went overboard with those mini's....Why does everything apple does cost so much damm money!?!?!?!

They could have made a less expensive product that Wal Mart could sell....


Sometimes when you think your stuff is the best, you forget where you came from....
 
Originally posted by Lanbrown
Nope, or why would they say all new Macs will get it and they have an up to date program as well. If they were free downloads, they wouldn't have to have an up to date program. You want the new versions you need to pay the money.
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Wrong. All new Macs have always had iLife installed. The up-to-date program is for people that want the whole iLife package. iPhoto, iTunes and iMovie will still be free downloads.
 
GarageBand and iDVD 4 are worth the price for me alone. I'll take iPhoto as well. iMovie 4 is a disappointment but I use FCE anyway (don't think I'll bother upgrading though - nothing particualrly new in there). GarageBand is just what I'm looking for.

What happened to iPhoto 3? I guess they wanted them all to be version 4 for iLife '04. Strange that they're advertising Microsoft Office on the Apple front page though (I know it's a direct quote from Steve!).

There may be free downloads of iPhoto and iMovie in a couple of weeks but don't hold your breath. iLife updates are probably another revenuee stream we're going to have to get used to. Personally I'm glad the price remained the same. I had a terrible feeling he was going to say "only for $99" after comparing that plethora of PC programs. About to order it now.
 
itunes charts mistakes

First off, the charts are incomplete. i decided to look at what was popular in 1975, year of my birth. gee, i'm so happy i wasn't really aware at that age. the top song was 'love will keep us together' :<

#2 is missing, as is #14,21,23,24....a notable amount.

The other mistake, and whats really funny...#45 is feelings-by the offspring. i wonder what else is out of place like that.
 
I was wondering if you need the previous iLife to use this new iLife..or can we use this iLife for the iApps included in Panther??
 
I love iDVD's new pro compression! Other features nice too. I'm buying it just for iDVD. Improvements all around are welcome.
 
iTunes Music Store

Did I miss something or did Steve Jobs not spend one word on the fact that iTunes Music Store still works in the US only?

'Biggest online music store in the world' - well okay, there isn't one that's bigger in this world so technically he's correct but 'biggest online music store in the USA' would be a somewhat fairer description I think.

I can understand that it must be quite a hassle to get copyright deals worldwide - the success of iTunes Music Store sofar could even make negotiations harder because now the record companies smell the money.

But what starts to annoy me is that it's just not mentioned anymore - no updates, no apologies, no plans.

I was hoping for an annoucement on iTMS availability outside US in this keynote speech. Giving this presentation just pretending that every mac user in the world can purchase and download songs, when in fact a substantial part of the worldwide mac community cannot do this at all, is just not a very nice thing to do

When I surf to the iTMS from where I'm located, I get a 'country warning'. And that's not to warn me that there's country music available on iTMS, it's to tell me that I still can't purchase music. Very frustrating.

I'm probably drifting a bit off-topic here but if anyone's got any recent news on iTMS in Europe I'd be very much interested.

Otherwise: Nice upgrades, nice new app and as a long time Logic user and Emagic customer I'm pretty sure that Garage Band will kick ass.
 
for all the people complaining

iTunes is always available as a download. The question is whether iPhoto will be. Steve said nothing about downloads one way or another.

Chill until there's some more information.

To those that aren't musically inclined, and therefore haven't any use for Garageband.

I'm not musically inclined, but, I still expect to get something out of Garageband using the loops to create soundtracks and voice over. A bit better than creating it in iMovie (even though I will be using FCE).

To put things in perspective: I just spent $14K on Pro/e upgrades plus $9k on forward maintenance, and, with the exception of Pro/Concept, I have to run this on a PC (VPC?). Count our blessings that at least you have the choice of purchasing iLife for the mac.
 
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