I'm Getting Really Annoyed with Not Having Multi-Tasking (Idea)

[MICHAELSD]

This thread has made a pretty strong point against split-screen multitasking.

Maybe that isn't what we need in a full-blown feature. Apple should become more open to a dual-use apps that are multitasking with a purpose. A well-constructed text editor with a web browser or a YouTube player with a Safari window on top would make perfect sense. Perhaps as a feature in its own not enough apps would support it to be worthwhile but apps designed for a simultaneous dual purpose could be fine-tuned enough to be.

 

[Bahroo]

No. Just condescending. As stated, I don't personally feel that the iPhone (even the 6 Plus) would benefit all that much from "true" multitasking. The iPad on the other hand, would. However, I can get by just fine without it. If you are so upset with the lack of it, why not sell the iPhone and iPad and purchase Samsung devices to replace them?

Dual application windows and multiple apps and windows open on a 5-5.5 inch screen is just ridiculous and cumbersome and counter productive in a way, not to mention the lag it brings when you run multi window on a Note 4/Note 3, apps start to perform laggy a bit. But it makes 110% sense for a tablet which is much bigger and offers much more screen estate. On a smartphone/small mobile device you are generally doing 1 thing at a time, one operation at a time on a smartphone,

 

[sk1wbw]

In the most myopic, rudimentary sense of the word for the most low brow of expectations...Yeah its multitasking.

But for the Note 4 we are talking more than this bare minimum standard.

So by not having split screen multitasking, the iPhone is rendered useless and inoperable? I fail to see the need for it. It's not like it's a new concept that Android and/or Samsung invented. It's been on Windows for a long time. I have the capability now on my 30" widescreen monitor but I never use it.

 

[Technarchy]

So by not having split screen multitasking, the iPhone is rendered useless and inoperable?

Is that your opinion, or are you quoting someone that never posted in this thread?

I fail to see the need for it.

Unless your title is emissary of all smartphone users, expect other people to have a different opinion, and doesn't mean they are wrong.

It's not like it's a new concept that Android and/or Samsung invented. It's been on Windows for a long time.

That would be called a clue.

I have the capability now on my 30" widescreen monitor but I never use it.

So you use Windows...without Windows...?

 

[mKTank]

So by not having split screen multitasking, the iPhone is rendered useless and inoperable? I fail to see the need for it. It's not like it's a new concept that Android and/or Samsung invented. It's been on Windows for a long time. I have the capability now on my 30" widescreen monitor but I never use it.

It's a BS feature that the vast majority of people don't care about, but that the very vocal minority that does has to continually make sure you're aware of.

On an iPad though, yes, I'm all for split-screen multitasking.

 

[Count Blah]

No. Just condescending. As stated, I don't personally feel that the iPhone (even the 6 Plus) would benefit all that much from "true" multitasking. The iPad on the other hand, would. However, I can get by just fine without it. If you are so upset with the lack of it, why not sell the iPhone and iPad and purchase Samsung devices to replace them?

Typical response. I'm a little shocked you didn't go with the "start your own company and build the tablet you want.", instead.

Apple gets it 90% correct. Well, with the move to glued in everything on the Mac side, they have dropped below 80% IMHO. But on the iOS side they still do a very good job. Sorry I am passionate about it, but when it's so close to being a totally kick arse device, I get a little heated when obvious improvements are left off the menu to promote the "next" big thing - like the air's measly 1 gig of ram. In this case, it's true multitasking being at least one version too late.

 

[mib1800]

They are actually possible to some extent, but do require workarounds as I believe these actions are explicitly prohibited as part of Apple's app silo. For example, I believe there's an app which uses bluetooth beacons to start certain apps (it's quite cumbersome, because I still need to unlock my phone), as well as IFTTT triggers.

Makes no sense why apple is limiting this capability in iOS. Symbian/WM from years before iOS already allow event-hook in apps.

Maybe if it's done right. But it's certainly not done right at all on the Note 4.

People don't praise Apple for coming up with the feature; they praise it for getting the implementation right, which is all that matters.

When I read something like this I would usually lol.. and think of the silliness of Apple implementation of the centralized settings or crippled email client or home button overuse or data wipe when uninstalling apps or the placement of back button or notification shade that blocks the screen or the blatant copying of ideas from android etc

 

[mKTank]

Makes no sense why apple is limiting this capability in iOS. Symbian/WM from years before iOS already allow event-hook in apps.




When I read something like this I would usually lol.. and think of the silliness of Apple implementation of the centralized settings or crippled email client or home button overuse or data wipe when uninstalling apps or the placement of back button or notification shade that blocks the screen or the blatant copying of ideas from android etc

It's ok, just take a deep breath.

 

[lordofthereef]

I don't know that I agree with the assertion that only the vocal minority would use multitasking. Is there some sort of metric that shows how many Note users use multitasking features on a daily/weekly/monthly basis?

The truth of the matter is, without doing some sort of market research, it is really difficult to say what the market wants or does or will do. It's simple for me to say that I use this or that feature ten times a day and therefor it is a necessary addition to any OS. It's just as simple for me to say I don't use this other feature and therefore it's a waste of space. Hell, I can even add weight to the argument by pointing that everyone I know uses [or does not use] this or that feature. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Because my data is not statistically relevant.

I think all most of us can really say is our own opinion of any feature. Plenty of features in iOS today that users of this very forum claimed were unnecessary fluff. A lot of those features I use now on the daily. I never realized how "necessary" imessages was until I started using it. Do we all remember how many heated debates there were about widgets?

 

[mKTank]

I don't know that I agree with the assertion that only the vocal minority would use multitasking. Is there some sort of metric that shows how many Note users use multitasking features on a daily/weekly/monthly basis?

The truth of the matter is, without doing some sort of market research, it is really difficult to say what the market wants or does or will do. It's simple for me to say that I use this or that feature ten times a day and therefor it is a necessary addition to any OS. It's just as simple for me to say I don't use this other feature and therefore it's a waste of space. Hell, I can even add weight to the argument by pointing that everyone I know uses [or does not use] this or that feature. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Because my data is not statistically relevant.

I think all most of us can really say is our own opinion of any feature. Plenty of features in iOS today that users of this very forum claimed were unnecessary fluff. A lot of those features I use now on the daily. I never realized how "necessary" imessages was until I started using it. Do we all remember how many heated debates there were about widgets?

Market research = units sold = jack ****.

 

[lordofthereef]

Market research = units sold = jack ****.

That isn't quite the sort of market research I was referring to. I think I explained that though.

 

[mKTank]

That isn't quite the sort of market research I was referring to. I think I explained that though.

Too bad.

 

[Buringcoals]

Really?

I have my iPhone 5 sitting next to me with the current version of iOS 8.

Tell me how you can have floating windows, dual screen, minimized windows, share data between any app, drag and drop information between apps and windows, and watch video while replying to emails at the same time.

Answer is you can't, and if you simply try task switching, you'll probably end up losing time and data when an app reopens, erases everything, and reloads all the information all over again.

There is no phone made that multitasks well.

My friends note 4 lags horribly trying to multi-task even the basic things. To the degree, that he does not even try it.

Apple knows this, and that's why task switching is superior in speed and battery life.

Looking at youtube while surfing the web on a 5" screen. LOL..

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I owned iphones since the first one came out, I finally had enough so I switched to the Note 4 and it is GREAT!! Many things I always said "maybe the next iphone will have/do this", this phone has it or does it.

True multi-tasking, yes, expandable memory, yes, higher resolution, yup, a better camera, that too...and it has so much more too.

I call BS. You have a note 4, and yet you go out of your way to login to a apple website, troll the iPhone forums just to tell people how free you are and how lovely your android POS is?

You are either a super troll or full of S*#%T

 

[lordofthereef]

There is no phone made that multitasks well.

My friends note 4 lags horribly trying to multi-task even the basic things. To the degree, that he does not even try it.

Apple knows this, and that's why task switching is superior in speed and battery life.

Looking at youtube while surfing the web on a 5" screen. LOL..

I have plenty of iPhone 6 lag yet there are people here that state they have no issues at all. I am not sure that one man's experience is the same as the next. I haven't used the Note 4, but there are people here that say they have and have a good experience.

Also, I do use more than one platform. I also frequent more than one forum. [I also sold my Tacoma over three years ago due to it not being practical at the time but still love the truck and spend some time, though not as much, on those forums too] I am somewhat perplexed by the sentiment that one must own nothing but Apple products to post here without being called a troll. I am not saying most posters are like this, but you are certainly not the first to call them that. I obviously can't call anyone;s agenda, for certain, but my own. I simply like discussing tech and happen to use multiple platforms partially by choice, partially because that's how the cards were dealt.

 

[azhava]

In typical fanboi fashion, split screen multitasking is frowned up. Until the VERY second Apple releases it. At that point, you will be an idiot for not thinking it's amazing...

To be honest, it's one feature that I really couldn't care less if Apple releases or not, and I won't consider it amazing if they do. Even with the 5.5" screen of the 6+, I can't see trying to squint at two tiny windows and do anything useful with them. I don't even consider full-screen web browsing particularly enjoyable on it. I'll do it in a pinch when there's no other option available, but if I'm near my desktop or laptop I'd much rather do it there, with a full-sized screen, physical keyboard and mouse. Multiple windows is just not a feature I can muster up any excitement whatsoever for.

 

[mercuryjones]

Typical response. I'm a little shocked you didn't go with the "start your own company and build the tablet you want.", instead.

Apple gets it 90% correct. Well, with the move to glued in everything on the Mac side, they have dropped below 80% IMHO. But on the iOS side they still do a very good job. Sorry I am passionate about it, but when it's so close to being a totally kick arse device, I get a little heated when obvious improvements are left off the menu to promote the "next" big thing - like the air's measly 1 gig of ram. In this case, it's true multitasking being at least one version too late.

Hey, the HP Touchpad had "true" multitasking, and we all see how that went.
If "true" multitasking on a mobile OS was such a huge need, then all Android devices would have it and crow about it a much as Samsung does.
Again, I'm for said multitasking on a tablet. Just not on a phone.

 

[lordofthereef]

Hey, the HP Touchpad had "true" multitasking, and we all see how that went.

It didn't have true multitasking. At least not the sort of features being discussed here.

 

[mib1800]

There is no phone made that multitasks well.

My friends note 4 lags horribly trying to multi-task even the basic things. To the degree, that he does not even try it.

Apple knows this, and that's why task switching is superior in speed and battery life.

Looking at youtube while surfing the web on a 5" screen. LOL..

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I call BS. You have a note 4, and yet you go out of your way to login to a apple website, troll the iPhone forums just to tell people how free you are and how lovely your android POS is?

You are either a super troll or full of S*#%T

I'll call BS on yours too. I have a Note 4 and I use multi-windows frequently (whatsapp and FB in floating windows) and it doesnt lag horribly like you said. In fact, I dont notice any significant degradation when multi-windows are in use.

 

[mattfire145]

Never really saw the need to multi-task on a phone. I have the Slacker Radio app where you can pretty much create your own radio stations. I open the app and start the radio station I created, I can hit the home screen button which makes the app disappear but the music still plays. I can then listen to my station while browsing the web, checking Facebook, texting or writing an email. That's all I really need haha.

 

[Count Blah]

Hey, the HP Touchpad had "true" multitasking, and we all see how that went.
If "true" multitasking on a mobile OS was such a huge need, then all Android devices would have it and crow about it a much as Samsung does.
Again, I'm for said multitasking on a tablet. Just not on a phone.

Fair enough. That is why I've always just said in iOS. Leave it to the user to decide if they want to squint to see it or not. But watching videos/streaming tv is the perfect example of a use case. Put the video in a 1/4-1/6 screen size PIP box, while,you browse for info, or take a note in the main window - then make the video full screen again. Simple, effective, and so,etching I would use all the damn time. We're been told time and time again about how powerful our A* chips, how they are as powerful as PCs only a couple,years ago - yet we are stuck doing one thing at a time in iOS, and reaching for other devices to do other things.

 

[the caveman]

Hey, the HP Touchpad had "true" multitasking, and we all see how that went.
If "true" multitasking on a mobile OS was such a huge need, then all Android devices would have it and crow about it a much as Samsung does.
Again, I'm for said multitasking on a tablet. Just not on a phone.

I think thats not fair to say. WebOS was awesome, the biggest mistake was selling webOS to HP which promptly ran it into the ground. Palm Pre was like a breath of fresh air.

 

[mercuryjones]

I think thats not fair to say. WebOS was awesome, the biggest mistake was selling webOS to HP which promptly ran it into the ground. Palm Pre was like a breath of fresh air.

I agree. I enjoyed the time I spent with WebOS and the Touchpad. However, if it was such a great OS, then someone would have been able to make something out of it since then. Where is it now? On LG Smart TVs.

 

[ZEEN0j]

Fair enough. That is why I've always just said in iOS. Leave it to the user to decide if they want to squint to see it or not. But watching videos/streaming tv is the perfect example of a use case. Put the video in a 1/4-1/6 screen size PIP box, while,you browse for info, or take a note in the main window - then make the video full screen again. Simple, effective, and so,etching I would use all the damn time. We're been told time and time again about how powerful our A* chips, how they are as powerful as PCs only a couple,years ago - yet we are stuck doing one thing at a time in iOS, and reaching for other devices to do other things.

Which is great if you sell multiple products that achieve different things. Very smart business. Apple wants you to own all of their devices and jump between them depending what kind of work you are going to do, continuity. Split screen would be nice on my iPad. But Apple probably won't release it until the competition does and they start loosing money.

 

[lordofthereef]

I agree. I enjoyed the time I spent with WebOS and the Touchpad. However, if it was such a great OS, then someone would have been able to make something out of it since then. Where is it now? On LG Smart TVs.

This just means nobody wanted to pick up the pieces that HP left behind. Frankly, I really can't blame anybody. Apple already had their own OS. So did Google. Microsoft could have gone for it, I guess, but they would have wanted to rebrand it as Windows, at the very least. Maybe Blackberry could have taken it but they were still too stubborn at that time thnking they could still keep going with Blackberry OS (then called something else, don't even remember what lol).

I think the reality is that it is/was a good OS that simply got run into the ground. Nobody wanted to take the risk with damaged goods.

 

[Count Blah]

Which is great if you sell multiple products that achieve different things. Very smart business. Apple wants you to own all of their devices and jump between them depending what kind of work you are going to do, continuity. Split screen would be nice on my iPad. But Apple probably won't release it until the competition does and they start loosing money.

That's for pointing out yet another way Apple chooses it's bottom line over a better user experience, and it's customers.

It makes sense why apple wouldn't bring it to the iPhone. And I agree that apple will slow play this on the phone, as long as humanly possible. But on the iPad, it doesn't make sense at all. I don't know anyone who carries an iPad, but not a cell phone.