There are apps for other VR systems where one person is using the headset, and the other players are using a TV/monitor/tablet/phone/paper to work together.
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I’m just slightly creeped out on a conceptual level about this whole thing
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Give me a pair of glasses or contacts that can AR the world around me with the level of information I feel comfortable with. A basically VR diving mask with AR capabilities.
This device? I'll keep an eye on as the tech is pretty cool. outside of that I cannot see a personal use case.
This device? I'll keep an eye on as the tech is pretty cool. outside of that I cannot see a personal use case.
I have an interesting tidbit for you. It seems like visionOS will have some kind of walking mode that's activated in Control Center. I have no idea what it does but take a look at the icon. I noticed it in one of the visionOS dev videos:
ok then I have to ask, if you live in a country where minimum wage was $1/hr, and at that time you had $312k in cash to gamble on a stock, doesn’t that already make you among the wealthiest people in your country? At that point, why attach it to the risk of a stock, just to add potentially yet more (which is apparently unnecessary if you can afford to be without it while it’s invested)? Seems like unnecessary risk just for meaningless gains, when there are an infinity of more interesting things you could do with the $. ?
I do live in a country where the minimum wage is $1/hr... and even then there are tonnes of rich people with millions of dollars in their account... (Thailand). I would not say having $312k would make you among the wealthiest people... there are lots of wealthy people, it is just very polarized in the distribution... You would be in good shape, but if you wanted to buy a modern house in a muban in Khon Kaen it might cost between $100K and $200K for one/two floor units on a small lot (people being people if you have $312k, you would typically buy the two story house... leaving $112K (Bangkok would be more for some condos of normal western size).... Basically you can live at many different levels -- but don't want to live on the $1/hr wage if they can help it.
Very interesting. A quick thought is that this is for walking around your house mainly and it takes your windows/content with you rather than them being anchored to where you left them.
Lets say I'm watching a TV show and I'm also cooking, I could move from the living room to the kitchen and back while also taking the TV show with me.
I like foreign goods like those of Apple. You gotta have multiple streams of income for that to occur and $AAPL's as good as any.
When books were originally introduced to the wider public, many parents at the time were very concerned that books would corrupt their children, remove them from the real world, and make them lazy.
The same concern occurred with rock n roll, TV, video games, and cell phones.
AR/VR glasses is just the next technology on that list.
We already have an endless amount of things that distract, influence, and cut us off from the real world, and we all do them voluntarily, because we want to.
Same thing here.
The same concern occurred with rock n roll, TV, video games, and cell phones.
AR/VR glasses is just the next technology on that list.
We already have an endless amount of things that distract, influence, and cut us off from the real world, and we all do them voluntarily, because we want to.
Same thing here.
For one thing I was then and still am an Apple fanboi. So why not invest in a company you love and enjoy keeping up to date with their business health? I'm on MR after all... we're up to date on everything anything Apple.
Another would be a lot of pension funds and eventually Warren Buffet started buying into Apple. So that's a solid endorsement for long term investing.
Even if I lived in a country with a min wage of $1/hr it is always good to have multiple streams of passive income. 3 years of COVID is an example of that being very true for a lot of people.
I'd feel financially safe if I'd had an annual div of over $100k from one solid company. Would be better if they were 4 or more.
This is on top of salary from work.
Why that much? Because I love imported goods and Internet services that come from American companies like Apple. They charge rich nation prices. Have you seen how much the Vision Pro is?
I've had 6 of 270 classmates from HS start dying from age 30 to 43 from lack of quality private healthcare. They'll should have croaked into their 90s.
I've seen how extreme poverty is where 1 of 3 citizen are physically & mentally stunted (low IQ) due to calorie/micro/macro malnutrition. I want to protect myself, family, friends and extended family from that.
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My issues with this product other than price are:
1. It doesn’t just fit into your daily life
2. Apple seemed very disconnected with how this will actually be used (who is going to wear this on a flight or while spending time with family or the kids etc… be in the moment)
3. Does this improve or make easier how you do anything really…???
4. Apple have preached about how we shouldn’t be tied to our phone etc… by launching features such as screen time and now they want you to go round with this big thing slapped to your face kind of contradicts they’re whole ethos
5. I don’t think apple even feel great about releasing it as it is, Apple proudly wore that Apple Watch during its announcement, he didn’t even wear this thing
The whole thing just seems a bit meh, very un-apple and the announcement just seemed awkward and un-appealing.
Obviously all the YouTubers are going to make out like it’s the best thing since sliced bread and hype it up as much as possible, but that’s only because there has been a HUUUUGE drought of new apple products lately. But we have to remember Apple said early 2024, that could be anytime until June next year and that’s if it launches on time, and with the Mac Pro being a year late with no actual design changes, I suspect this thing won’t be available until late 2024, at this point it might as well be forgotten about as essentially it may be another AirPower.
1. It doesn’t just fit into your daily life
2. Apple seemed very disconnected with how this will actually be used (who is going to wear this on a flight or while spending time with family or the kids etc… be in the moment)
3. Does this improve or make easier how you do anything really…???
4. Apple have preached about how we shouldn’t be tied to our phone etc… by launching features such as screen time and now they want you to go round with this big thing slapped to your face kind of contradicts they’re whole ethos
5. I don’t think apple even feel great about releasing it as it is, Apple proudly wore that Apple Watch during its announcement, he didn’t even wear this thing
The whole thing just seems a bit meh, very un-apple and the announcement just seemed awkward and un-appealing.
Obviously all the YouTubers are going to make out like it’s the best thing since sliced bread and hype it up as much as possible, but that’s only because there has been a HUUUUGE drought of new apple products lately. But we have to remember Apple said early 2024, that could be anytime until June next year and that’s if it launches on time, and with the Mac Pro being a year late with no actual design changes, I suspect this thing won’t be available until late 2024, at this point it might as well be forgotten about as essentially it may be another AirPower.
The price point may be that high not because of R&D & BoM but because the demand for it is fairly limited.
One way to look at it it is an inelastic good.
Of all use cases mentioned the only one I could consider would be to use the Vision Pro on an airplane.
I know how much a decent pair of noise-cancelling headphones changed flight for myself… so yes, a completely immersive experience would certainly help while away the hours.
But 2 hours battery? Hmmmm. You'd need a bag full of spare batteries to get through a Transatlantic or a London to Hong Kong flight… And that would bring its own problems.
I know how much a decent pair of noise-cancelling headphones changed flight for myself… so yes, a completely immersive experience would certainly help while away the hours.
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Umm, I have taken a few trans atlantic flight in the last few months - and every flight I was on had power available for your devices... you just plug the power into the charging port on the battery - and you have the device available and fully charged during the entire flight (and 2 hours to use if you are walking around a terminal between flights). (flights included Montreal <> Frankfurt, Halifax CAN <> London, FrankFurt <> Bangkok, London <> Bangkok)
Yes, yes that's true.
I suppose the 30hr battery on my headphones made me forget about that power supply…
TV and smartphones (mostly social media by extension) have had obvious VERY negative effects on society, those people are sometimes right. In my (SUBJECTIVE) opinion, both have been net negatives for society as a whole.
Exactly why Apple create Vision Pro is to battling this isolation. Don't you think it's already happening with people watching their phone everywhere, literally, ignoring the world around them. At least with Vision Pro, if someone coming to talk to you, you can see them 'blending' in.
So doesn't that make you a target of a mugger or somebody sucker punching you? Why would you put your safety in danger to wear these iGoggles outside? I can't rationalize it at all.
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So you are saying this is a phone you wear on your face.
Hmmm…. Never thought of it that way.
Hope that would be the next pipeline as holographic tech maturing though I can't see any useful applications by itself yet beyond communication? Maybe limited arts and entertainment.
However Apple can combine it with their headset. For example, imagine Vision Pro that can project holographic images of virtual characters or objects onto your surroundings. These holograms could be interactive, responding to your gestures or voice commands, and appearing as if they are physically present in your environment. This combination of holography and AR can open up new possibilities for applications such as gaming, education, design, and communication.
Poor example, as this is the modern "lighters in the air moment" and actually quite magical.And this at a concert.
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