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I'm Pissed Off With the iPhone 3G's Shoddy Build Quality
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3 Grams*.
Which is the weight of a penny. Seriously, how can you notice that small of a difference...
Got mine on Friday the 11th waited in the queue for 9 hours, phone was perfect in every way until Tuesday during the day, it started freezing and getting green lines across the screen. Then when I finally got it to unfreeze it just kept rebooting over and over.
I decided to do the update but when plugging it in the computer it kept freezing Itunes, so I forced the restore after deleting my backup first.
Did this about 3 times but no luck, took it into the store I purchased it from and they apparently sent it of to Apple who have no record of receiving it.
Now I have no phone they say they sent it to Apple and Apple say they have not got my phone. All in all a huge disappointment. Who knows how long I will wait till its even found never mind replaced.
I decided to do the update but when plugging it in the computer it kept freezing Itunes, so I forced the restore after deleting my backup first.
Did this about 3 times but no luck, took it into the store I purchased it from and they apparently sent it of to Apple who have no record of receiving it.
Now I have no phone they say they sent it to Apple and Apple say they have not got my phone. All in all a huge disappointment. Who knows how long I will wait till its even found never mind replaced.
Damn man, that sucks^. What store did you get it from? You should just go in there and be like, "either provide me with a phone or I'm walking out with that one right there."
Replacement units for faulty iPhones are shipped in small brown boxes-this is to avoid the expense of replacing the smart packaging and accessories with every faulty iPhone returned.
I asked the guy in the lakeside apple store (UK) last night and he said all replacements should come in the small brown box. I guess that applies if you deal with the apple store directly. He also said that they have had no issues with 'brown box' phones and mine seems completely different in general build quality to the first one. This one looks like someone has taken more time over its assembly etc.
This is all about expectation and tolerance. Most people have a tolerance for certain things and reasonable expectation, others do not. I suspect that the phone with a bad yellow screen or the phone with a loose silent switch may have been "perfect" in the eyes of most everyone.
This is not an Apple or iPhone issue. This is a nitpicky tech-head issue. Look at when the PSP came out, mass hysteria over the terrible screens that were over run with dead pixels. The hysteria created a hyper awareness of the "problem" that had people loading special jpegs, going over their systems with a fine toothed comb and demanding a perfect product. At the end of the day we find out that about 3%.... THREE PERCENT!!!!! well within the normal range for defects in a tech product had problems with screens that had clusters of bad pixels. Xbox360? If you read the news you would think 90% of them exploded on launch day. Original iPhone? Yikes, random dots everywhere and washed out colors! PS3, again, massive problems. Come to find out that in every case, the problems, while there, were MINUTE in scale.
The expectation from iPhone 3G was exceedingly high and still it satisfied most who purchased it. There are those who have no tolerance however who are probably better off with a Nokia candy bar phone on its 20th generation.
If you get more than 2 problem phones, it is most likely that the problem is YOU, not the tech. "Perfect" can mean lots of things. My gorgeous wife thinks that my fat hairy self is perfect for her.
Maybe my phone has a dead pixel, I havent found it. Maybe there was a microscratch on it somewhere, I didnt see it. While you guys were out whining about the lack of perfection, most the world were out enjoying their phones. The guys who pick up your phones in the Apple refurb store next month will surely thank you though...
ash =o)
This is not an Apple or iPhone issue. This is a nitpicky tech-head issue. Look at when the PSP came out, mass hysteria over the terrible screens that were over run with dead pixels. The hysteria created a hyper awareness of the "problem" that had people loading special jpegs, going over their systems with a fine toothed comb and demanding a perfect product. At the end of the day we find out that about 3%.... THREE PERCENT!!!!! well within the normal range for defects in a tech product had problems with screens that had clusters of bad pixels. Xbox360? If you read the news you would think 90% of them exploded on launch day. Original iPhone? Yikes, random dots everywhere and washed out colors! PS3, again, massive problems. Come to find out that in every case, the problems, while there, were MINUTE in scale.
The expectation from iPhone 3G was exceedingly high and still it satisfied most who purchased it. There are those who have no tolerance however who are probably better off with a Nokia candy bar phone on its 20th generation.
If you get more than 2 problem phones, it is most likely that the problem is YOU, not the tech. "Perfect" can mean lots of things. My gorgeous wife thinks that my fat hairy self is perfect for her.
Maybe my phone has a dead pixel, I havent found it. Maybe there was a microscratch on it somewhere, I didnt see it. While you guys were out whining about the lack of perfection, most the world were out enjoying their phones. The guys who pick up your phones in the Apple refurb store next month will surely thank you though...
ash =o)
yeah, my screen rises above the bezel on the left side but is flush on the other. I Will take back to apple soon when more stock comes in.
and i have the light thing, but not a big issue,
I agree Apple cut some corners on this iPhone and i am looking to buy the first gen again for when i dont need 3G speeds (have both run off same SIM)
and i have the light thing, but not a big issue,
I agree Apple cut some corners on this iPhone and i am looking to buy the first gen again for when i dont need 3G speeds (have both run off same SIM)
Damn, I'm gonna miss my sturdy 2G iPhone and the vibrant launch day screen. I wish the iPhone 3G didn't feel so cheap and light. But I guess if Apple wants to sell 10 million this year they had to put out this kind of product. Oh well, the pros still beat out the cons for me.
Yes, they are the same. So much so that if it was dark and our home screens were set up the same, you couldn't pick out which was hers and which was mine.
Got one
Bottom line: Cheap,really cheap but so much better speed.
So it's a mixed bag.
Problem is that I notice the cheapness every time I pick it up. Whether or not this will eventually not be the case is too early to tell.
Note (It's not the plastic, it's the metal parts that feel cheap)
But a decision was apparently made at Apple to sell as many as possible and that may come back and bite them in the backside.
Bottom line: Cheap,really cheap but so much better speed.
So it's a mixed bag.
Problem is that I notice the cheapness every time I pick it up. Whether or not this will eventually not be the case is too early to tell.
Note (It's not the plastic, it's the metal parts that feel cheap)
But a decision was apparently made at Apple to sell as many as possible and that may come back and bite them in the backside.
well the 360 is a complete piece of junk, thats a fact. I know 6 people with 360s, (me included) and we're all on at least our 3rd system... one guy is on his 6th...
but back to apple. yea i agree that some people will always find some little tiny detail to complain about. I have the backlight bleeding through a little by the top speaker but it just isnt an issue to me.
I posted photos of my iPhone 3G with a bubble on the back.
You can read this post, some have up to 6 bubbles.
Apple also removed my post from their forum with a link to my photos but didn't remove the thread.
I'm going to the Fido store to see if I can exchange it.
You can read this post, some have up to 6 bubbles.
Apple also removed my post from their forum with a link to my photos but didn't remove the thread.
I'm going to the Fido store to see if I can exchange it.
I'm pissed with iphone 3g whinners!
Great Post!
I thinks its friggen amazing that so many people want to pay the least possible price for something, then want the best possible quality. Wake up!
Take the guy with the dimple on the back (sorry, yours is the only picture i saw posted). That dimple is nothing! Its the back of the phone for Christs Sake! An uneven bezel on another... microscopic scratch in the corner that will most certainly be multiplied by 10 after owning the damn thing for a month. Let it go people!
Sorry if i offend, I'm sure your all great people.
BTW. I find that the quality and looks of my iphone 3g are perfect! Great battery life too.
Great Post!
I thinks its friggen amazing that so many people want to pay the least possible price for something, then want the best possible quality. Wake up!
Take the guy with the dimple on the back (sorry, yours is the only picture i saw posted). That dimple is nothing! Its the back of the phone for Christs Sake! An uneven bezel on another... microscopic scratch in the corner that will most certainly be multiplied by 10 after owning the damn thing for a month. Let it go people!
Sorry if i offend, I'm sure your all great people.
BTW. I find that the quality and looks of my iphone 3g are perfect! Great battery life too.
Apple Stores Canada are exchanging iPhone 3G, NOT Rogers/Fido
Even thought Apple Stores don't sell the iPhone in Canada, I called the Apple Store in Laval (Montreal North Shore) and mentionned the bubble in my iPhone 3G. They confirmed that they have the iPhone in store for exchange under warranty.
So people in Canada, don't call Fido or don't go to the Fido store where you bought it, call the Apple Store directly. At this time even Fido support doesn't know that...
I'm going tonight to meet with a GENIUS!!! Oh boy oh boy! Can't wait to talk with a GENIUS!
Even thought Apple Stores don't sell the iPhone in Canada, I called the Apple Store in Laval (Montreal North Shore) and mentionned the bubble in my iPhone 3G. They confirmed that they have the iPhone in store for exchange under warranty.
So people in Canada, don't call Fido or don't go to the Fido store where you bought it, call the Apple Store directly. At this time even Fido support doesn't know that...
I'm going tonight to meet with a GENIUS!!! Oh boy oh boy! Can't wait to talk with a GENIUS!
My black 16gb was flawless in terms of build quality.
I guess the rest comes down to perception. Personally I feel the new phone looks and feels better and more expensive/high quality than the first phone. Fingerprints or not, I love the new glossy black backing 100 times over the easy to dent easier to scratch alluminum.... which was kinda lame when combined with the partial flat black antenna cover. Again, I guess perception is different to some ppl, but as I look at the many scratches and 4-5 significant dents in the alluminum of my iPhone 1.0.... I very much welcome the new design. This is before we even get into improved signal reception for Wifi, GPS, and 3G/Edge.
With regard to the yellow hue, simply hit the restore button in iTunes and it will download a newer firmware, (5A347 vs 5A345), that sets the color palette back to that of iPhone 1.0. Not sure wtf Apple was thinking (or not thinking) on that one.
I guess the rest comes down to perception. Personally I feel the new phone looks and feels better and more expensive/high quality than the first phone. Fingerprints or not, I love the new glossy black backing 100 times over the easy to dent easier to scratch alluminum.... which was kinda lame when combined with the partial flat black antenna cover. Again, I guess perception is different to some ppl, but as I look at the many scratches and 4-5 significant dents in the alluminum of my iPhone 1.0.... I very much welcome the new design. This is before we even get into improved signal reception for Wifi, GPS, and 3G/Edge.
With regard to the yellow hue, simply hit the restore button in iTunes and it will download a newer firmware, (5A347 vs 5A345), that sets the color palette back to that of iPhone 1.0. Not sure wtf Apple was thinking (or not thinking) on that one.
How dumb can you get?, the iphone 3g is not cheaper for apple to "create" (bad english
). It's just in the us that the phone is so cheap because of the crappy monthly costs.Where I live the 8Gb iphone costs 500 dollars (with a good 15 $/month contract). So the phone itself is NOT cheaper... So they did not go "cheaper" to sell more. Like some think.
The replacement white iPhone 3G 16GB I got came in a white box. Is that the same as these brown boxes? When I had to have my iPhone classic replaced it also came out of the same white box.
FYI, I had a black one originally. Same light leakage problem on the top LEFT hand side as everyone else...
I agree with you about mass production, things like the small bubble I found is probably a drop in the sea compared with the number of iPhone 3G they sold.
But to respond the other post about perception, and with all the respect, why should I let it go? Here's what I pay in Canada with Fido:
$30/mo data plan
$15/mo options (VVM, Caller ID, 2500 SMS)
$20/mo voice plan
$7.50/mo network & 911 fees
On a 36/mo plan, the total is $2610+tx
Plus I paid $249 for the iPhone 3G with that data plan.
Over $3000 with taxes after 3 years. I deserve a flawless product. Buy $100 pair of shoes with a small scratch and you will return it.
But, honestly, I understand that no production process is perfect. I'm not mad, unless they refuse to replace it.
So far no major problems, however I do have two small chips in the bottom bezel where it meets the glass. I also notice very minute gaps between the glass and the bezel on the bottom and top where dust has been collecting.
Overall, I don't think these warrant any concern, but I am curious to compare my iPhone with others.
If this is a common feature, it is much less disheartening. If it's not and might hurt my resale of the phone in the future, then I want to know so I can exchange it.
Overall, I don't think these warrant any concern, but I am curious to compare my iPhone with others.
If this is a common feature, it is much less disheartening. If it's not and might hurt my resale of the phone in the future, then I want to know so I can exchange it.