Im sorry. But Liquid Glass looks cheap.

[fisherking]

with every new mac OS, ppl come out of the woodwork to complain. whine, rant .then, over time, they adapt (and hopefully, apple makes some fixes). so we catch our breath, get on with life... until apple changes things up again. then the cycle begins again.

this is how we move forward (at least, on the mac forums) 🤣

 

[Lioness~]

Where's the liquid glass on the Safari icon?

Apple changes things very randomly these days 😂

 

[BingWho]

if you spam the launchpad button the menu for the new apps opens only every second press, thats interesting.

 

[Sniper08]

with every new mac OS, ppl come out of the woodwork to complain. whine, rant .then, over time, they adapt (and hopefully, apple makes some fixes). so we catch our breath, get on with life... until apple changes things up again. then the cycle begins again.

this is how we move forward (at least, on the mac forums) 🤣

We get it. You don't think these complaints are valid. You love the new design. Why are you telling us this again?

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Do you remember Jobs fired an entire floor worth of people because a font was wrong? That was the Apple that changed me.

And that was also a myth.
The absolutely ridiculous image of Steve Jobs people have in their head is so far from reality.
Obviously, I didn’t know the man, but just reading through old archives you *do not* find much evidence of him firing hundreds of employees for minor, day-to-day, glitches and bugs, like some people on these forums would make you think.
What you do find though is a lot of versions of Mac OS X that either launch with some major missing features (Chita), launched after several delays (Leopard) or launched with some pretty massive bugs that led to hundreds and hundreds of gigabytes of data loss (Snow Leopard).
But the idea that he would just fire an entire software team because he didn’t like an icon or animation is just foolishness, myths created long after the fact that never actually really happened.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

We get it. You don't think these complaints are valid. You love the new design. Why are you telling us this again?

I would take his comments seriously if he countered with reasons as to how Liquid Glass progresses usability rather than regress - or indeed, as to why the valid complaints are ill conceived - but I’ve yet to a see a single comment that objectively defends Liquid Glass well.

 

[fisherking]

We get it. You don't think these complaints are valid. You love the new design. Why are you telling us this again?

ha, i never said that. complaining is valid (altho constructive criticism is probably better). and i don't love the new design, i like it enough.

meanwhile, if ppl can whine endlessly (some even start multiple threads about the same things), surely i can repeatedly whine back 🤣

 

[turbineseaplane]

I would take his comments seriously if he countered with reasons as to how Liquid Glass progresses usability rather than regress - or indeed, as to why the valid complaints are ill conceived - but I’ve yet to a see a single comment that objectively defends Liquid Glass well.

It "brings more clarity and focus to your content"
😉 😂

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

It "brings more clarity and focus to your content"
😉 😂

My bad.
"I'm looking at it wrong."
I'm just not living in the real world.
It's just my opinion.
I'm so sorry.

 

[fisherking]

I would take his comments seriously if he countered with reasons as to how Liquid Glass progresses usability rather than regress - or indeed, as to why the valid complaints are ill conceived - but I’ve yet to a see a single comment that objectively defends Liquid Glass well.

objectively? hmm. i'd hardly call many of your own posts 'objective'.

LG is just the GUI for the present moment; 'progressing usablity rather than regressing'; i don't find it does either of those things. i just find it to be different, and i think that's great.

either way, i speak my mind, as does everyone else on this forum. that's how it works 👍

 

[turbineseaplane]

My kind of Dev right here.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

My word. It's like having an old friend back.

How can this look so much better than what's just been dumped onto the other apps? Feel like TC is trolling me at this point.

 

[Sami13496]

I know theres no going back (bummer) but this aesthetic looks cheap to me. Like clear plastic you find in some of those shops that carry decorative chintzy things that end up in a drawer. Was flat design really that outdated and terrible? I feel like we were given a solution to a problem no one had.
/rant over.

Flat design was beautiful. Looking now on iOS 18 it looks really futuristic and clean. This iOS 26 is an absolute mess. Hope I didn’t update but it’s too late now.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

objectively? hmm. i'd hardly call many of your own posts 'objective'.

Windows with a larger radius take up more screen estate; the additional padding also reduces space. That is objective.

i just find it to be different, and i think that's great.

And there's the problem - you're attracted to what's novel. You're so preoccupied by the fact that it's new that you're not tolerant of the genuine struggles that people have wit this GUI; and if you did, you wouldn't counter their valid arguments with sarcastic, demeaning comments about how wrong they are. You would say "I disagree, and here's why". But you don't.

either way, i speak my mind, as does everyone else on this forum. that's how it works 👍

You speak your mind with a condescending tone that implies those who have genuine complaints are wrong for doing so; and the narrative is often harsh.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

It's not nostalgia when we are comparing to Sequoia, which was the current OS three days ago.

Except that if you go into the archives when Sequoia released, you see basically… The exact same complaints.
And then you think… Interesting, maybe things really were better back in 2005?
So you go into the archives once again, and what do you find? Well… certainly not endless positivity, and satisfaction from OS X Tiger users.
It’s almost the exact same complaints, just with terminology from the time.

 

[Sniper08]

ha, i never said that. complaining is valid ( altho constructive criticism is probably better). and i don't love the new design, i like it enough.

meanwhile, if ppl can whine endlessly (some even start multiple threads about the same things), surely i can repeatedly whine back 🤣

People posting a UI glitch or being frustrated that a feature has been removed without warning does the following:
Brings it to people's attention, helps them recognize if it's a widespread problem or just an issue with their hardware or installation, and for anyone who hasn't 'whined' they can learn that whatever is wrong with their device isn't intended.

People whined about their phones slowing down as their batteries aged. The result? Battery replacement program. Keyboards. Speakers. Display lamination, etc.

You know what doesn't help? A smarmy reply saying "things change, deal with it!" or "they'll fix it next time" or "I don't see a problem". It shuts down discussion. It discourages exploration and discussion. if your only excuse is that 'it's an opinion' then it doesn't serve a purpose, does it? Otherwise all threads would be:

"Hey, I have a problem."
"I don't!"
End.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

You know what doesn't help? A smarmy reply saying "things change, deal with it!" or "they'll fix it next time" or "I don't see a problem". It shuts down discussion. It discourages exploration. if your only excuse is that 'it's an opinion' then it doesn't serve a purpose, does it?

Take a bow, Sir.

 

[turbineseaplane]

People posting a UI glitch or being frustrated that a feature has been removed without warning does the following:
Brings it to people's attention, helps them recognize if it's a widespread problem or just an issue with their hardware or installation, and for anyone who hasn't 'whined' they can learn that whatever is wrong with their device isn't intended.

People whined about their phones slowing down as their batteries aged. The result? Battery replacement program. Keyboards. Speakers. Display lamination, etc.

You know what doesn't help? A smarmy reply saying "things change, deal with it!" or "they'll fix it next time" or "I don't see a problem". It shuts down discussion. It discourages exploration. if your only excuse is that 'it's an opinion' then it doesn't serve a purpose, does it?

All of this 👆

Also, this is a discussion forum.

I'm not sure what the point is if all the posts just praise Apple and every move they make and everyone who isn't onboard is told to "go to Windows" or "switch to Android if you don't like it!"

 

[verdi1987]

Again, I know others are calling that blurriness but if you're one of those people, tell yourself it's just a bit of softness, which is true.

The definition of a soft focus is a slightly blurred image.

 

[fisherking]

People posting a UI glitch or being frustrated that a feature has been removed without warning does the following:
Brings it to people's attention, helps them recognize if it's a widespread problem or just an issue with their hardware or installation, and for anyone who hasn't 'whined' they can learn that whatever is wrong with their device isn't intended.

People whined about their phones slowing down as their batteries aged. The result? Battery replacement program. Keyboards. Speakers. Display lamination, etc.

You know what doesn't help? A smarmy reply saying "things change, deal with it!" or "they'll fix it next time" or "I don't see a problem". It shuts down discussion. It discourages exploration and discussion. if your only excuse is that 'it's an opinion' then it doesn't serve a purpose, does it? Otherwise all threads would be:

"Hey, I have a problem."
"I don't!"
End.

i hear you, really. i still feel that, in too many places, ppl whine about an aesthetic change they don't like (versus the very-reasonable complaints about legibility, etc).

we've learned, with apple: they hear us when they choose to. so, personally, i don't see LG going away, just (hopefully) getting better.

meanwhile, perhaps this:

"Hey, I don't like the new UI, and so it needs to change, because that's how i feel, and i'm right"
"Sure"
End.

 

[fisherking]

Windows with a larger radius take up more screen estate; the additional padding also reduces space. That is objective.


And there's the problem - you're attracted to what's novel. You're so preoccupied by the fact that it's new that you're not tolerant of the genuine struggles that people have wit this GUI; and if you did, you wouldn't counter their valid arguments with sarcastic, demeaning comments about how wrong they are. You would say "I disagree, and here's why". But you don't.


You speak your mind with a condescending tone that implies those who have genuine complaints are wrong for doing so; and the narrative is often harsh.

genuine struggles? there are glitches in the GUI, things to fix. but is anyone genuinely struggling to use their macs? hmm.

anyway, you've never heard me, not once, or you'd respond to what i actually say, not what you think i'm saying. so it goes

 

[fisherking]

Except that if you go into the archives when Sequoia released, you see basically… The exact same complaints.
And then you think… Interesting, maybe things really were better back in 2005?
So you go into the archives once again, and what do you find? Well… certainly not endless positivity, and satisfaction from OS X Tiger users.
It’s almost the exact same complaints, just with terminology from the time.

this. so true.

 

[spamabyss]

yes. And your post basically confirms it. I don’t know the average age of people here but I’m gen z and most people I know like the new design. Most of you don’t like it because you don’t like change, regardless of what the new design language is. Someone above this post even mentioned an os from 2005. It’s nostalgia.

Does gen z not at least care about consistency and having an os that's glitch free?

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

meanwhile, perhaps this:

"Hey, I don't like the new UI, and so it needs to change, because that's how i feel, and i'm right"
"Sure"
End.

Great.

 

[MBAir2010]

Back to the topic of the cheapmess:

Liquid glass looks elegant on the ipad,
cheesy on an iphone 12 mini
nice on the macbook air m1 13”
On a mac mini m1 using a 2k monitor, the edges are darker on icon but video, content etc is great!
Now the TV 4K, the icons seem more immature design wise on a 1080dpi insigna tv that never got upgraded.

Now we return you to the bantering……..