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well it's about time, i'm really bored with my windows 8 pc and when the new iMac come, i'm switching...:cool:
 
Ya since haswell has minimal performance upgrades and mostly has to do with battery gains I'm sure so many people are concerned with having haswell in a desktop machine....

This is more a case of people thinking they need something that they really don't.
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It's not about how much faster the new Haswell compared to IB. It's all about the value of your hardware.

As you know Apple seldom cut the price off Mac hardware unless it's refurb units or special occasion (Mother's Day, Back To School, Christmas etc).

So I wouldn't pay a full price on Ivy Bridge iMac when I could get the new and shiny Haswell. The improvement might be marginal (even maybe a bit slower in some cases), it might has decent iGPU (which is useless since iMac uses dGPU anyway). Yes Haswell benefits are for laptops.

But again it's all about value. How minuscule the improvement is irrelevant. If you have a lasting and old iMac, it's best to wait for newest updates. But if you have 2011 or 2012 iMac, can't see any reasonable "need" to upgrade or even bother.
 
If you didn't, get AppleCare. I made the mistake of not doing so and repairs cost a cool grand, about 2 years in.

Does it run hot (like my mid-2011 does)?

I had the mid 2011 27" and it ran very hot when gaming or on for long periods. I have the new 27" super sexy thin one now.... The heat dissipation and fan sound is world apart. Even after gaming for a couple hours it is still cool to the touch. You could practically fry a egg on the old one. Not sure how they did it but the new thin iMac is 3000%(Not Official Numbers) better at heat dissipation.
 
I had the mid 2011 27" and it ran very hot when gaming or on for long periods. I have the new 27" super sexy thin one now.... The heat dissipation and fan sound is world apart. Even after gaming for a couple hours it is still cool to the touch. You could practically fry a egg on the old one. Not sure how they did it but the new thin iMac is 3000%(Not Official Numbers) better at heat dissipation.

Does it have an SSD only or a fusion drive? Spinning disks are furnances. The fact it is thinner makes me even more skeptical, because of processor and GPU heat as well as the screen. And it is glued on, too. Not a good combo (heat and glue, that is).

On the one hand, it is encouraging to hear that you can perceivably tell a big difference. I'll take a wait and see approach and do my homework before I plunge all that money into another paperweight..:p

On the other hand, I'd still take a TB Display (hopefully they'll put out new ones) and a mini (unfortunately) or an older Mac Pro. The iMac proved my fears to be true more than once and soured the experience permanently. It'd take some serious convincing to bring me back.
 
the current 27" inch imac was delayed & shipped feb this year, i doubt the new imac 27" will be out so soon..
 
Maybe off-topic, maybe not, idk.
But am I the only one to believe that Apple will include the Fusion Drive as a standard in the Hi-End 21.5 and both 27s? There is a $300 price gap between the 21.5 models right now, and there's almost no difference between the models, except a bit faster CPU/GPU and an ability to get i7 in elder model. Looks pretty idiotic, if you ask me. And since even Apple's SSD prices dropped with the latest rMBP updates back in Feb, I think it's about time to include the FD into the most of the iMac line-up.
 
Maybe off-topic, maybe not, idk.
But am I the only one to believe that Apple will include the Fusion Drive as a standard in the Hi-End 21.5 and both 27s? There is a $300 price gap between the 21.5 models right now, and there's almost no difference between the models, except a bit faster CPU/GPU and an ability to get i7 in elder model. Looks pretty idiotic, if you ask me. And since even Apple's SSD prices dropped with the latest rMBP updates back in Feb, I think it's about time to include the FD into the most of the iMac line-up.

I would probably suggest to Apple that instead of HD vs HD+128GB SSD, there could be two variants HD+32GB SSD and HD+128GB SSD or possibly 256GB SSD. A Fusion drive with a small SSD drive to avoid extra cost should still be a lot faster than a pure HD drive.

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I see, you have a personal problem with my opinions.

He complained about you saying "100% optimized for Haswell". And I'm sure that isn't the case. Well, I would complain about an OS "100% optimized for Haswell" because right now none of my Macs has a Haswell processor, and it will be many years until they all have one. Second, there is very little optimisation for a particular processor. You may optimise for the number of cores, hyperthreading, cache sizes, but that isn't optimising for a particular processor (and few people do it). You can "optimise for modern Intel processors" which will cover everything less than five years old, but there will be very little optimisation for Haswell. You don't optimise for it, it runs faster just by itself.
 
He complained about you saying "100% optimized for Haswell". And I'm sure that isn't the case. Well, I would complain about an OS "100% optimized for Haswell" because right now none of my Macs has a Haswell processor, and it will be many years until they all have one. Second, there is very little optimisation for a particular processor. You may optimise for the number of cores, hyperthreading, cache sizes, but that isn't optimising for a particular processor (and few people do it). You can "optimise for modern Intel processors" which will cover everything less than five years old, but there will be very little optimisation for Haswell. You don't optimise for it, it runs faster just by itself.

There's also the obvious fact that if Mavericks is "100% optimized for Haswell" it won't install or run on Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, or any other processor.
 
hmmmn, so will apple just bump up with slightly faster haswell cpu & bump the ram to 16gb? well i got a feeling this will happen year end december & not sep 10th.
 
hmmmn, so will apple just bump up with slightly faster haswell cpu & bump the ram to 16gb? well i got a feeling this will happen year end december & not sep 10th.

The entry Imacs already have 64gb, why would they bump it down to 16gb?

Or did you mean 16 GiB ?? ;) ("B" = "8 * b")
 
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There's also the obvious fact that if Mavericks is "100% optimized for Haswell" it won't install or run on Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, or any other processor.

what the :confused:

That's what "100% optimized for Haswell" would mean....


i mean the ram which is 8gb in the imacs..

And I mean that the Imac already starts with 64gb, so 8gb would be a downgrade.

I'm just pointing out that "b" means bits, and "B" means bytes - you are using the wrong abbreviation.... ;)

And, the Imac actually has 68.7195 gb - which is 64 Gib, which is 8 GiB.
 
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the current 27" inch imac was delayed & shipped feb this year, i doubt the new imac 27" will be out so soon..
Actually, the first new 27-inch iMacs started arriving at people's homes in December 2012, not February. I got mine on January 3, 2013.

Does it have an SSD only or a fusion drive? Spinning disks are furnances. The fact it is thinner makes me even more skeptical, because of processor and GPU heat as well as the screen. And it is glued on, too. Not a good combo (heat and glue, that is).
No need to be skeptical because zecks420 is right. My 27-inch iMac has a Fusion Drive and becomes lukewarm at best under stress. Compare that to my 2010 27-inch iMac which literally became too hot to touch during modest operations. Especially the upper left corner. At work we have fourteen Late 2012 27-inch iMacs and a few 2009 and 2010 models. The difference in heat production is day and night.
 
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so will the new imacs get haswell & intel intergrated grafix card?
hehe, u never know :rolleyes:
 
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so will the new imacs get haswell & intel intergrated grafix card?
hehe, u never know :rolleyes:
The current iMacs already have that. Of course the integrated graphics aren't used with higher-end iMacs which also have a dedicated graphics card.
 
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