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I find it so weird that no-one seems to know that when you own several Apple products equipped with Siri, on the same icloud account, only one of them will answer when you say Hey Siri. I do it all the time with my phone, watch and sometimes ipad all in the living room. It's usually the phone that answers, if it's nearby, even if I'm deliberately raising the watch to ask Siri something. Don't know why or how, but it's been like this for a while now...
 
Where's the slot for upgrading the GPU?
What's the procedure when you suffer the failure of a component that you should be able to service it yourself (display/PWS/SDD/GPU...)?
I'm sorry but AiO toys are not suitable for professional environments.

I don't know what company you work for but everyone i have never services machines on their own, they are sent back to the manufacturer regardless of if the parts are removable or not.
 
Considering how much R&D would be required to integrate this into an Intel chipset motherboard and give it always on access. Then add to that how few $5000 computers will be sold.

What is the cost per unit a Pro user is paying for this feature?
 
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An external TouchID sensor wouldn't work, since it is bound to a particular Secure Enclave chip at the factory. You couldn't just go out and buy a new keyboard - you'd be stuck with the one that came with the device if you wanted to keep TouchID. The touchbar itself could be made standalone, though.

That's just the way the iPhone and iPad work.
For a Mac, a secure pairing mechanism between keyboard and Mac would be needed.
That's not exactly inconceivable.
 
Yes. Seriously.

What part of what I said do you not understand? The first iPhone was released with a non-mechanical keyboard and people here raged against it. Why in the world are you going on about other phones?

You’re making it sound as if Apple was the only one with a touch screen then. I don’t recall anyone here raging against the original iPhones design other than existing BLackBerry users.
 
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I don't know what company you work for but everyone i have never services machines on their own, they are sent back to the manufacturer regardless of if the parts are removable or not.

I'd assume a small company. One that pays a tech to come out for same to next day repair.

There are also Pros who work from home. Sending in the computer to the manufacture. Means spending a week or more unable to work.

Then again in either scenario. You'd be well advised to use a custom built desktop PC instead. Since you can run down to any computer store and pick up a replacement part for time critical repairs. Many OEM machines aren't fully repairable that way. Especially Dell with their frequent use of custom motherboard form factors.
 
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“Hey Siri, move the cursor 23 pixels to the left and 74 pixels down, then select the RGB value at that spot and set that as the background color for the eraser. No, wait, 3 more pixels down and 13 pixels left. One more. One more. One more. One more... okay use THAT color. ”
Siri: where is what I found on the web for THAT color.
/s
 
yes, but I have to have my keyboard and press fn + space to do that, and if my keyboard is already by me then I might as well use the dedicated f10 to f12 keys
FWIW, there is a roundabout way to have Siri trigger on the Mac using "Hey Siri". I wouldn't say it's a hack, but it does work. Take a look at this article and give it a shot, though there may be other shortcomings still. At the least, you can tell Siri on the Mac to play music and such, so it's better than nothing. You can also make the trigger word something else entirely if you'd rather, since it won't know when you're talking to the phone instead.
 
Now even this last Siri function was sucsessfuly replaced by Alexa for me.

My Apple Watch replaced Alexa a long time ago... I quickly realized that an assistant that isn't very smart, doesn't integrate well with the Apple ecosystem and doesn't travel with you is pretty much a door stop. At least Siri has the last 2 things going for it.
 
iOS does not and never has booted “instantly”. Why do people falsify and keep thinking iOS boots instantly?

Boot: is the time an OS is readily usable starting off from a fully powered off system state.
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You should be learninto do simple math in your head easily and rapidly! Those late night TV informercials from the 80’s must’ve escaped you - showing off the human computer mathematician (can’t recall his name but he’s on TedTalks).

Where is the quoted Idiom from Dune book written by Frank Herbert about making a computer to do what the human mind should be doing?!! Would’ve been apt here.

I never said iOS boots instantly.
 
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I wouldn't go THAT far, but I agree it's really not something I find very useful. A lot of it has to do with changing old habits though, to be honest. I've been using phones and computers for so long now, it's just not a natural response for me to start speaking commands to one instead of clicking or tapping what I want.

I used Siri in the car just last week, and it reminded me of both what's good and what's bad about it. I simply needed to find out a store's hours before driving all the way out there. I asked Siri what the store's hours were, and instead of just answering my question -- it started reading off a whole paragraph of information obviously pulled from a web site like Google or Yelp. It finally did tell me the store hours, but only after listening to several irrelevant pieces of information about it that were part of whatever blurb it was reading off to me.

If you memorize specific ways to word requests, Siri will perform well at a number of tasks. For example, it integrates with my Ecobee thermostats at home so I can give it commands to adjust the temperature or tell it when I'm leaving and to use an "away" temperature profile. But again? It's just old habit to launch the Ecobee app on my phone instead to handle that. I doubt one way is really "better" than another? I can launch the app and do what I need just as fast as talking to Siri and waiting for it to do the same thing.



I wish you could completely uninstall Siri from osx and iOS. And I don't mean just disable it. It's the most useless voice assistant in my opinion and it irks me that it takes up space.
 
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You’re making it sound as if Apple was the only one with a touch screen then. I don’t recall anyone here raging against the original iPhones design other than existing BLackBerry users.

Nope. That was your interpretation so you could reply with a snarky comeback. Next time, simply read what I typed.
 
Siri? Useless on iPhone, so why would I use it on a 'pro' machine?

People keep echoing this nonsense. I wonder what the factors are that make Siri not work for some people? Maybe they tried once 3 years ago and gave up? I use Siri daily, from across the room, and she works great.
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That's an incredibly powerful CPU to run just a "Hey Siri" interface. It would be nice if they also allowed the A10 to run iOS. They could use for an "internet appliance" mode that boots instantly and lets you run Safari without concern for viruses. Throw in App store compatibility and you'd have a killer iOS/Mac OS convergence device.

Yup, I keep saying all that Apple needs is a dedicated V-series chip, for voice, much like the M-series chip for motion tracking.

If they do use an A10 chip just for Siri, you can bet that they have a much longer roadmap in place to utilize that processing power for more than just Siri, eventually.
 
At this starting price tag, expectations have to be pretty high. If this isn't a wow, it's not going to be worth the cost when a good quality 5k iMac is significantly less than $2000. There are plenty of people who can afford to spend this much on a desktop but they aren't the same pool as those who pushed the limits of the 2012 mac pro. It's up to Apple to define this new target market just as they defined the touchbar as an efficient emoji selector for millennials. I can't imagine anyone owning a 2013 mac pro is feeling so pumped about their decision that they are ready to drop significantly more on a design which is diametrically opposed to the marketing hype of the trash can from a cooling perspective.

Seems like best case scenario is this turns into a classy home computing device for the Tony Stark's out there. That just doesn't seem like a big enough pool of customers to make the effort worthwhile, unless the intent is like a concept car where these design ideas will trickle down to the base iMac over time. The interesting part of that thought experiment is, why not consider that plan for existing mac pro and mac mini using current form factors and put some small effort into an apple branded display matching the overall look of the iMac?

I'd like to be wowed. Here's to hoping. Right now I'm scratching my head.
 
And your eyeballs are irradiated with IR for hours on end. No thanks.

LOL. Do you keep your eyes closed all day when you go outside or when the lights are on? Because, if not, your eyeballs are being irradiated with IR for hours on end. (Half of all the sun's energy that hits earth hits as infrared).
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I doubt they'll kill off the iMac Pro just because there'll be a Mac Pro. It'll be interesting to see how they differentiate the two, though.

Shouldn't be too hard. Lots of businesses which need pro-level equipment would never upgrade the equipment (they simply depreciate and then replace, and they make everyone's configuration identical so they can easily swap when things break).

Other businesses, and particularly power users, prefer modular equipment where they can replace and upgrade components to prolong the life of the device.
 
What a waste of time. They haven't updated the Mac Pro for pro users in over four years and their innovation is adding "hey siri" into iMacs? Apple has like 100 times more employees than before, but the Mac gets almost zero attention now. I don't really care for innovation if all it means is menial things like thinness, color, aluminum, and siri...

We need some actual real raw iterative updates... newer processors, ports on the pro line... How is it that in four years they couldn't update the Mac Pro ONCE with a line of updated CPUs, GPUs, TB ports? How is it that in over three years they couldn't update the Mac mini with ANYTHING? And before that it took them two years just to solder RAM onto the motherboard!

Up until recently they still sold the 2012 13" MacBook Pro! 5 year old technology? It was slated to go vintage when it was still being sold as new!
 
What a waste of time. They haven't updated the Mac Pro for pro users in over four years and their innovation is adding "hey siri" into iMacs? Apple has like 100 times more employees than before, but the Mac gets almost zero attention now. I don't really care for innovation if all it means is menial things like thinness, color, aluminum, and siri...

We need some actual real raw iterative updates... newer processors, ports on the pro line... How is it that in four years they couldn't update the Mac Pro ONCE with a line of updated CPUs, GPUs, TB ports? How is it that in over three years they couldn't update the Mac mini with ANYTHING? And before that it took them two years just to solder RAM onto the motherboard!

Up until recently they still sold the 2012 13" MacBook Pro! 5 year old technology? It was slated to go vintage when it was still being sold as new!

Yes, that's right. The new iMac Pro has only hey siri as a new feature. Nothing else new. And the A10 is used only for hey siri. Yep. Sure.
 
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