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What year do you guys think this iMac Pro will be rendered "obsolete?" I don't mean by Apple's standards, but by the standards of not being able to handle tasks and get the frequent, dreaded beachball icon...2040? Seriously.

Now there's an interesting thought.

If this guy was upgradeable, user-servicable, or even just, I don't know, openable, you'd be able manage it running until 2050.
 
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I do too. But I have a sneaking suspicion that Apple's definition of "Modular" is not the same as mine.

Exactly.

After reading the transcript of the infamous Mac Pro "apology" meeting... I'm starting to think that they were talking about being modular for Apple to build... not modular for people to upgrade and swap parts.

Weren't they talking about the internal design of the trashcan Mac Pro and how they were stuck?

That's exactly why Apple would go with a more modular design. For them. :p
 
Sadly I have to agree. My studio is still running 2010 / 2012 Mac Pro’s and they are starting to show heir age quite bad but replacing them with something this expensive that we can’t yograde or repair doesn’t make any sense.

Give Pro’s these exact components in the cheese grater tower and they’ll buy them by the truck full. I don’t understand why apple refuses to see that. I love innovation as much as the next guy but Pro machines don’t need piles of innovation. They need upgradable components that work reliably. I don’t care how small it is or how quiet it is or what colour it is. I just need it to chew through 6K video footage like it’s nothing.

Couldn't agree more. In a professional environment who cares how small or quiet it is. If it gets warm, it means it needs to. I'm not using it for fun, I run a business, I make my living by using this system every single day, and I make it work. Often churning though really big 3D motion work. I think upgrading to the nMP was a mistake, and something I regretted, as that was still upgradable, just not the processor. Mine is fine for now, but it is due an upgrade, to something more stable, and something that works. I don't want a system which is glitchy, and doesn't work with some displays or hard drives. What pro has that time to waste on trying to get a monitor to work properly when it's using a scaled resolution. The best part even taking the MacPro to apple to get fixed, they didn't have a 4k (let alone) 5k display for me to even show them the glitch. Thus pointless. I'm also certain that I have problems on my logic board, as if the tower is turned, the display turns off which suggests a bad connection. This is a system which is seldom touched, or moved. Because it has no need to be. AGH
 
Such a strange release date. Not exactly an impulsive Christmas gift.

The Mac Pro was released in December 2013 and we can say it was a similar product, very expensive an not really a Christmas gift. Maybe they just wanted to have it out before the end of the year, since they promised that during WWDC.
 
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Pretty sure the one argument and the constant feedback with the nMP was that it wasn't upgradable and therefore not fit for purpose. Apple even admitted it f*up with it - yet they fill a small gap with this iMac Pro even more locked down. Is it me or do APPLE just not listen to their pro market, when we give feedback. I'd rather they spent that time doing the next Mac "part pro" Same same as the MacBook Pro - what pro user needs a stupid though bar with emojis. I don't use it for anything, apart from to turn the volume and brightness up and down. Because as a pro I know my shortcuts, for the exact same functions.
 
Think of the money you’ll save on your heating bill if your team is equipped these! It will be dead of winter and you’ll be sitting in shorts and flip flops drinking gin and tonics to protect yourselves from malaria. Of course, the savings will be slightly reduced as a result of your need to purchase noise reducing headphones for everyone...
 
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The Mac Pro was released in December 2013 and we can say it was a similar product, very expensive an not really a Christmas gift. Maybe they just wanted to have it out before the end of the year, since they promised that during WWDC.
I ordered on day one, and didn't get the custom build until February. I can't even tell you the pain I feel when I say it's a late 2013 model. Actually it's not. It's an early 2014 because not one shipped until the new year.
 
I'm starting to think that this is just a way for Apple to measure how much demand there is these days for a Professional Mac full stop, before deciding as to whether they actually NEED to produce a new, modular Mac Pro or not. They've taken the easier way to get a Pro machine on your desk by taking an existing form factor and ramming as much power in there as they can, but as we know, that form factor is severely compromised - and, as noted by others, ALREADY out of date! Can't see many people dropping £10k on a spec to order iMac Pro and wait (potentially) a year or so to swap it out for a new Mac Pro. And potentially the number of people who would otherwise hold out for a Mac Pro and skip the iMac Pro altogether isn't going to do much for its sales, either, hinting at lower Pro demand. These two machines have effectively made the current Mac Pro irrelevant. Apple should half the price of that to keep power users sweet. Then they might have more of a user base willing to jump on a New Mac Pro when (should) it arrive.
 
Sadly I have to agree. My studio is still running 2010 / 2012 Mac Pro’s and they are starting to show heir age quite bad but replacing them with something this expensive that we can’t yograde or repair doesn’t make any sense.

Give Pro’s these exact components in the cheese grater tower and they’ll buy them by the truck full. I don’t understand why apple refuses to see that.

I suspect they really wanted to but didn't have the balls to release a 27" iPad for their loyal professional users...

Joking aside, I agree completely. Apple's professional offerings seem so half baked and self indulgent these days. I have no idea what they're thinking either...

My cheese grater is now in retirement and I'm currently using an iMac and a Wastebin Mac Pro - with both of them there's no comparison to the usability of that previous machine. For goodness, sake how hard would it be to just update that form factor... In the end its just a cooled metal box... There's no way I'd drop £5K+ on a machine that's got the form factor of an iMac.
 
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Happy to see that the pro's are getting what they want in this computer, but it does seem like such a small niche product. Does one really need all that power? Does it make a difference? I only use iOS so I don't see the need for such an expensive device, but I am guessing this is a good option for some pro's.
 
My wallet is rea... empty. By the way I don't understand why they couldn't just make the entire chin black like the bezels. Would look more uniform. The white iMac was modeled after the iPod, when it went aluminium they added the bezels to look more like the iPhone, which was black below the screen.
 
The proof will be in the pudding, so to speak. Let's see what kind of config you can get for $5k.

Right now I can get an HP Z440 workstation with a 6-core Xeon @ 3.6GHz, 8GB RAM (upgradeable to the same 128), and a 256GB SSD for less than $2.3k (no GPU). If I throw in a NVidia Quadro P4000 ($850), and a LG 5k display ($1600), I'm $250 less than an iMac...

The HP gives me more flexibility - more like what I expect a modular Mac Pro will be like - but doesn't provide 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports or 10G Ethernet (10G could be added @ extra expense). iMac might be pretty price competitive. We'll see.

Dang, workstations are expensive!
 
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