'iMac Pro' Coming in 2022 With M1 Pro/Max Chips, 27-Inch Mini-LED Display, MacBook Pro Ports and More

[Steve121178]

Do you guys think that the M1 Pro/Max will have a higher TDP when used in the iMac Pro than in the MBP?

Just speculating, but I'd imagine they will use the same M1 Pro/Max SoC setup the MacBook Pro has but perhaps with some added beefier options as they don't need to worry about the thermals so much in an all-in-one desktop. Obviously battery life doesn't need to be considered for a desktop...

I have a feeling the iMac Pro (or whatever they call it) will be firmly aimed at the "Pro" market so pricing will certainly be on the high-end.

 

[tpfang56]

For the last time: I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SCREEN SIZE AND FEATURE SET!
Why should I have to fork over a bunch of money for Pro features when all I want is a larger screen for doom scrolling???

Vice versa would be nice too… but just like they won’t make an ipad mini pro, no way will they make a 24” iMac with all the colors and the M1 Pro/Max chips as options.

As a compromise, Apple should release affordable 24” and 27” displays. Sure, the LG ultrafines exist, but they’re ugly.

 

[HowardEv]

Do you guys think that the M1 Pro/Max will have a higher TDP when used in the iMac Pro than in the MBP?

The highest performance with no thermal throttling would not be in a laptop or all-in-one, it would be in a mini, designed for best heat dissipation.

 

[theorist9]

The highest performance with no thermal throttling would not be in a laptop or all-in-one, it would be in a mini, designed for best heat dissipation.

It's possible the Mini's case has better potential for heat dissipation than the new 16" MBP (I'm not sure myself). But that's certainly not the case vs. large AOI's like the iMac Pro. The Mini is just too small.

Compare the maximum TDP on the Intel Mac Mini with that of the Intel iMac Pro. While it's possible they could have put even more power-hungry chips in the Mac Mini, it's simply not plausible that it could dissipate thermal energy as well as the iMac Pro.

 

[Mr.PT]

Silly rabbit, it should be faster than an RTX 3090, because until it is, there’s a lot of people here for whom a GPU represents their manhood.

But those will never be satisfied with Apple and shouldn't spend their energy lamenting about Apple. 🙂

Or they use 3rd party software that really needs GPU performance and are more frustrated by poor or non-existing Metal adoption/ optimization, so hardware power really becomes redundant…
Except for Mac Pro which I think should be kept modular upgradable, I’m all in for SoC architecture as Pros clearly surpasses the Cons.

 

[ValO]

I can see an iMac Pro with a m1pro as default and m1 Max as an option for next year.
Then they’ ll release a Macpro with a all new cpu/gpu in October 2022, and in 2023 I can see an iMac Pro max at 30-32 inch with a variant of the cpu/gpu that was used in the MacPro.

 

[ikramerica]

Why do you want discrete graphics which are most definitely on a slower bus and are more expensive and might hinder hardware development in the future because of contract issues and release cycle asynchronicity. Also if Apple is able to scale their GPUs on their SoCs further like they did until now there should be no problem performance wise.

Because my desktop workflow utilizes discrete graphics now? Call me crazy, but if the whole reason for AS was faster and better at same or lower cost, not seeing it at all if you toss the same M1 family in a desktop environment. 32GB memory without discrete graphics is a very expensive proposition with the M1 right now.

Other than thermals for mobile, what is the compelling argument for AS vs Intel that makes it worth all the trouble?

 

[Darth Tulhu]

Those that don't want a chin are going to be disappointed.

People need to stop using that thumbnail of an iPad on a stand to represent the iMac.

Other than that, I expect these to be the current MBPs behind a large screen, like the other iMacs basically were.

 

[warpdrive]

embrace the chin!

I don't think Apple will stray from the design of the 24 iMac much if at all. Without the chin, the body would have to be a lot thicker if they want the entire back to be one flat surface. The 27 or whatever size will need a lot more cooling than the 24 to handle those chips which are geared for high performance.

 

[TonyTech]

embrace the chin!

I don't think Apple will stray from the design of the 24 iMac much if at all. Without the chin, the body would have to be a lot thicker if they want the entire back to be one flat surface. The 27 or whatever size will need a lot more cooling than the 24 to handle those chips which are geared for high performance.

I agree that Apple will probably not stray too much from the design of the 24-inch iMac, but I think that they have realized that professional content creators don't care much about how thin their computers and monitors are. Just look at the latest MacBook Pro. I even prefer the design of the Unibody iMac introduced in 2009 better than the one that followed, with the "bulge" in the back.

 

[iBug2]

Because my desktop workflow utilizes discrete graphics now? Call me crazy, but if the whole reason for AS was faster and better at same or lower cost, not seeing it at all if you toss the same M1 family in a desktop environment. 32GB memory without discrete graphics is a very expensive proposition with the M1 right now.

Other than thermals for mobile, what is the compelling argument for AS vs Intel that makes it worth all the trouble?

The current M1 Max beats 2020 iMac 10 Core with 5700XT in all geekbench tests.

So even the MBP chip is faster than the fastest iMac as of today.

If Apple scales this chip to more cores for CPU and GPU, the next iMac will be much much faster than the current one, still in SoC form factor.

Don't worry.

 

[warpdrive]

I agree that Apple will probably not stray too much from the design of the 24-inch iMac, but I think that they have realized that professional content creators don't care much about how thin their computers and monitors are. Just look at the latest MacBook Pro. I even prefer the design of the Unibody iMac introduced in 2009 better than the one that followed, with the "bulge" in the back.

yeah, this could be where they break the model in this "new Apple" who understands that "Pro" really means "Pro", not "more expensive and premium". But I still doubt they will have a completely new design which sacrifices the chin for thickness. Having the chin allows them to have a lot more freedom for cooling system and a good speaker enclosure etc. But definitely it's nice to see the new Apple which is not sacrificing actual useful features like ports.

 

[MrMister111]

Don’t need a 27” so was going to get a 24” M1 but I’m in the fence wether to wait (for how long…) for a 24” M1 pro/max/M2.

The rumour states $2000 for 16Gb RAM and 512Gb SSD. That can’t be right as the 24” 16/512 is nearly that as well.

 

[UltimateSyn]

Don’t need a 27” so was going to get a 24” M1 but I’m in the fence wether to wait (for how long…) for a 24” M1 pro/max/M2.

The rumour states $2000 for 16Gb RAM and 512Gb SSD. That can’t be right as the 24” 16/512 is nearly that as well.

Yeah, a more realistic expectation for the M1 Pro / 512 / 16 is $2499 IMO. Maybe as low as $2199 but not less.

I also don’t think you’ll get the M1 Pro/Max in the 24” form-factor. I’d suspect those chips will only come in the 27”+ “iMac Pro”

 

[MrMister111]

Yeah, a more realistic expectation for the M1 Pro / 512 / 16 is $2499 IMO. Maybe as low as $2199 but not less.

I also don’t think you’ll get the M1 Pro/Max in the 24” form-factor. I’d suspect those chips will only come in the 27”+ “iMac Pro”

Thanks, I agree and can’t see Apple going at same price point for 27/30/32” as a 24” with 16/512.

So do you think it’s an ok time to still buy a 24” M1 with 8C/8GPU 16Gb RAN 512Gb SSD? I know there’s never a good time as always something around the corner, but I’d want this to last a long long time ideally.

Thanks

 

[UltimateSyn]

Thanks, I agree and can’t see Apple going at same price point for 27/40/32” as a 24” with 16/512.

So do you think it’s an ok time to still buy a 24” M1 with 8C/8GPU 16Gb RAN 512Gb SSD? I know there’s never a good time as always something around the corner, but I’d want this to last a long long time ideally.

Thanks

Honestly, I would say 'yes.' That machine is going to last for many, many years. I had one and LOVED it (8C/8GPU/16GB/1TB/Green) and only sold it because my new MacBook and upcoming travel make it superfluous. Extremely fast. Beautiful display. And really it's only six months old.

Now, that being said, I only buy products at the beginning of their release cycles so I have the newest for the longest. That's just me, though. The problem with waiting for M2 is that it *might* come out next year around the same time as the MBA w/ M2 (May? October?), but it *might* not come until the spring of '23... or later. There aren't enough established patterns with Apple Silicon releases yet to try to guess.

I recommend just buying the computer you want now. The M1 iMac is already amazing.

 

[MrMister111]

Honestly, I would say 'yes.' That machine is going to last for many, many years. I had one and LOVED it (8C/8GPU/16GB/1TB/Green) and only sold it because my new MacBook and upcoming travel make it superfluous. Extremely fast. Beautiful display. And really it's only six months old.

Now, that being said, I only buy products at the beginning of their release cycles so I have the newest for the longest. That's just me, though. The problem with waiting for M2 is that it *might* come out next year around the same time as the MBA w/ M2 (May? October?), but it *might* not come until the spring of '23... or later. There aren't enough established patterns with Apple Silicon releases yet to try to guess.

I recommend just buying the computer you want now. The M1 iMac is already amazing.

Thanks for advice do appreciate it. It’s what I’m trying to do, exactly as you say, but something at stay of cycle to get newest can.

I’ve heard the M1 is really good, I’m just wondering, but as you at never know with Apple, if the M2 or M1 Pro/Max maybe an option sooner rather than later.

The options of the new iMac’s are strange to me. There isn’t a difference apart from 7/8 2 ports, and the 8/8 4 ports, and then it’s just SSD sizes, why show 3 models and yet there really are only 2 models with slight difference.

I’d want touchID anyway so would get the 8/8 anyway.

So you sold your iMac already! But as say you wanted portability, I’m the opposite! I want to sell my older MBP and get a desktop as my M1 iPad Pro is more than enough for me for portability.

I think I also would stretch to 16/512 just for hopefully future proofing.

Thanks

 

[UltimateSyn]

Thanks for advice do appreciate it. It’s what I’m trying to do, exactly as you say, but something at stay of cycle to get newest can.

I’ve heard the M1 is really good, I’m just wondering, but as you at never know with Apple, if the M2 or M1 Pro/Max maybe an option sooner rather than later.

The options of the new iMac’s are strange to me. There isn’t a difference apart from 7/8 2 ports, and the 8/8 4 ports, and then it’s just SSD sizes, why show 3 models and yet there really are only 2 models with slight difference.

I’d want touchID anyway so would get the 8/8 anyway.

So you sold your iMac already! But as say you wanted portability, I’m the opposite! I want to sell my older MBP and get a desktop as my M1 iPad Pro is more than enough for me for portability.

I think I also would stretch to 16/512 just for hopefully future proofing.

Thanks

I think if anything there will be a 27" M1 Pro iMac before the 24" iMac gets updated with M2, and that'll probably come in the first half of next year. But it would certainly cost you more than the 24" which we've already acknowledged.

Those three models are just the pre-configured specs available from Apple, you're right that they're just three different specs of two 'core' models.

Yeaaaahhhh, I'm complicated like that honestly I would've been more than happy to keep my Mac stationary with the iMac and have my iPad Pro for all portable aspects. But...... I also love the new MacBook Pros and I knew I wasn't going to be able to resist. And I'm shipping off to another state for a year on work travel so my dream of a stable home-office has been swept away.

I'll either get an Apple external display next year, or the new iMac Pro if they don't release a display... we'll see

 

[MrMister111]

Yeah, a more realistic expectation for the M1 Pro / 512 / 16 is $2499 IMO. Maybe as low as $2199 but not less.

I also don’t think you’ll get the M1 Pro/Max in the 24” form-factor. I’d suspect those chips will only come in the 27”+ “iMac Pro”

That still takes it if $2500 to about what the 24” 16/512 is though. If $2100 that’s even down to middle range 24”.

Surely with a M1 Pro and 27” (or bigger) will be more?

 

[UltimateSyn]

That still takes it if $2500 to about what the 24” 16/512 is though. If $2100 that’s even down to middle range 24”.

Surely with a M1 Pro and 27” (or bigger) will be more?

I would be surprised if it started at more than $2499. Let's look at a similar example: 13" M1 MBA -> 14.2" M1 Pro MBP

That's the most comparable jump I can think of from a consumer-level machine with M1 to a Pro-level machine with M1 Pro. It adds a larger screen, ProMotion, better processor, more ports, converts to mini-LED, better speakers/camera/mics, etc.

The 512/16 MBA is $1449 and the 512/16 MBP is $1999 (admittedly with a binned processor), so a $550 jump. If you add the $550 to the price of the 512/16 M1 iMac you get $2450. Of course this isn't an exact science but I think it gives a nice rough estimate for what the addition of more premium features will do to the iMac line.

 

[Adarna]

Pls let this config happen

$1,999

• M1 Max
• 16GB memory
• 512GB storage

 

[UltimateSyn]

Pls let this config happen

$1,999

• M1 Max
• 16GB memory
• 512GB storage

That would only be a premium of $100 over the 512/16GB M1 iMac. Not going to happen.

 

[Adarna]

That would only be a premium of $100 over the 512/16GB M1 iMac. Not going to happen.

Fudge... you're right so it may be closer to $2999 than to $1999.

 

[KennyJr]

"Leaked" .. Well .. If you say so .. But based on what Apple has already done with new products .. Most of what is said here is what can be 'surmised' for the new bigger iMac.

 

[SteveW928]

Add some kind of video-input, so that beautiful display doesn't become a one-string-banjo, and I'm in!