Sorry friend, there will not be a purchasable and deliverable Mac Pro released in 2018
Best one can hope for is early 2019 - I'm betting on late 2019 w/ healthy stock levels by Mid 2020
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iMac Pro Now Available to Order With 8 to 18 Cores and Prices Ranging From $4,999 to $13,199
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Sorry friend, there will not be a purchasable and deliverable Mac Pro released in 2018
Best one can hope for is early 2019 - I'm betting on late 2019 w/ healthy stock levels by Mid 2020
Except, Most of us have never heard of them,we don't know who they are, we don't know if they support it, and we don't know if they will even be around in a year or two. Apple (and Dell and HP) don't have any of those problems.
One other thing I have not seen anyone note in this thread. Pro software can only be run (with support that you have to have) on Software vendor certified systems. For most of them it's only the big three. If that many. Some say buy an HP.
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or use Xcode. if you are limiting yourself to a specific platform, then your comment is limited to that specific platform
It really depends which 3D apps and what you're doing with them. If you're developing VR in Unity for HTC, NVidia is king. Also Unity has support for SLI with NVidia (imagine dual 12Gig cards!)... not familiar with HPC though, but the number of cores is bone crushing. Other apps like C4D love multiple CPU cores but also benefit from a fast GPU. Third party plugins allow use of the GPU for rendering, but by default this is not used. Every application requires careful research for the right card and what the benefit would be. cheers
And THIS is why I buy the 10 core and not the 14 or the 18 or the 24. Clock Speed. Most software can't use the cores, but they all use the clock speed.
I seem to be more and more confused by some of the comments lately on macrumors.
First, this iMac is geared towards the pro market. The other existing iMac is still there with options valuable to most everyday users. Nothing has changed in that regard and I’m glad Apple is concerned about the pro users and doing something. Some people seem to think Apple should cater to the pro market but not charge a premium for premium parts.
Which brings me to my next issue or public awareness. For those that want to price out a comparable windows computer, go ahead. It’s not going to be much less if any. Xeon proxessors, the memory, graphics card and screen. I’d say you’d be over $4500 for something close. So my advice, if you don’t know why it costs this much in the first place or how it differentiates from the regular iMac, it might be best to not complain about the price and Apple charging too much.
For those that want more power because their job relies upon it, this fills a void they couldn’t get. Just some benchmarks yesterday showed exporting out a 360° video was almost double as fast as the top of the line iMac. 3-4 hrs saved rendering each video goes along way. So I’m happy for today. I’m not in a position to buy one, but I’m glad it’s there. Now to go download fcpx 10.4.
Edit: also, I’ve seen more and more iMacs being used in the professional industry lately due to their size and mobility. Placing them on carts for studio photography or in a video studio on a wall to control colors and cameras.
I'm beginning to suspect that most people on here are kids or young adults who haven't got much experience in adult working world yet. Hence, price is the biggest complain you'll hear from many people on here.
You forgot the (i)Mac Pro 5K P3 wide-gamut 10-bit(or is it 12-bit?) production quality display, that'll cost another $2,500-5,000
AND the pleasure of not working on windows is priceless
GamePC has been a block or two away from Stanford since 1985. They're not going anywhere.
The iMac Pro is a prosumer device, looking at the hardware configuration it's not hard to see that. I mean, most of the software is on Windows or Linux anyways.
I looked at their website and didn’t see anything about service or support. How do I get this thing serviced if I’m in Seattle, Sunnyvale, L.A., Denver, Colorado Springs, Houston and Washington DC?
It's 10 bit and is missing HDR10. It's also the same panel as the LG UltraFine 5K, which is $1,299.
The price debate will always be a thing. For what you’re getting in this form factor, I don’t really have an issue with price.
I’ve been building sub $4000 AMD Threadripper system’s for 2D/3D artists the last couple months. 16-core, 64gb, 1TB M.2, water cooled, 4TB RAID0 media storage, and a GTX1080. The system looks great (NZXT case) and runs quiet. Even under load.
Now that’s great and all, but they’re running Windows. Ew.
Well yeah we switched to Windows for both graphics and audio years ago. While Windows does tax the performance, especially GPU video memory, it does offer flexibility in terms of hardware and software. Pro scene has definitely left the Mac in the dark a while ago. Most of the GFX guys are running Linux WS for content creation, animation, rigging, render and compositing. They switched to CentOS and never looked back. There are some dedicated GFX guys on Windows that are medium sized groups or simply use software that is Windows only but the amount of 3D/GFX people running on Mac exclusively is in single number market digits.
Where Mac guys are still present is DAW and audio production. It doesn't require super too much CPU and memory is sufficient so that's why they didn't switch yet.
If you like us want both GFX and Audio on the same system then I guess Windows is the only way to go.
We still have some iMacs in the front office cause clients want the first impression and we do still have some Apple displays hooked up to PCs.
Apple did it to themselves for not giving enough of hardware variation especially in top-end consumer CPU. Let's not even mention how they botched GPU game by picking sides so unnecessarily and locking out the consumers from the choice due to their flawed decisions.
Some can, some can't.
And ya know what? ZERO cars, trucks, motorcycles, ATVs, Motorhomes, Buses can.
So what?
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Based on the MBP 2016 and 2017, and the iMac 2017, Apple has learned their lesson about thermal management.
DO try to keep up!
Half the people here can't see past the tip of their own nose:
"I don't need this and it's very expensive so therefore nobody needs it anybody who buys it is an idiot."
The hardware is either shipped to them in Palo Alto, or, depending on the warranty arrangement, they can send parts immediately and receive the failed component at a later date.
Don't get me wrong, they're not going to match a company like Lenovo or Dell with on-site service. Like I said, I used their site as they actually list prices for Xeon W machines.
I agree for the most part where absolute speed is everything- especially for editors and 3d artists, but for content creation such as 2d designers and other artists, the studios my wife and I work at still can be surprisingly cheap and they shave dollars wherever they can (so they can dump loads of it elsewhere- haha.) You would think these studios would be chock full of high-end Mac Pros, but for every Mac Pro I see there are literally like 50 Imacs. The most bang for the buck - that is reliable, fast AND affordable- solution seems to carry the day. Big studios are just as averse to splurging where they don't need to at least as much as the rest of us. Probably why they have so much money....... Kinda like Apple, right?
And you forgot that the people who truly buy such systems don't have the luxury to say things like the pleasure of working on X is priceless. They are making a living not being fanboys. They use what makes them money. That's why they buy systems that cost in the 10's of thousands of $. it makes them money. I am sorry to tell you most of them are running Windows. In fact almost all of them are.
