"Pros" generally don't throw money away on AIO with precisely 1 monitor choice.
Even a single SSD failure means the whole unit needs to go. Pretty sad.
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"Pros" generally don't throw money away on AIO with precisely 1 monitor choice.
Even a single SSD failure means the whole unit needs to go. Pretty sad.
So, go to your local University, sign up for one class, and enjoy your Educational Discount!
You haven't been watching the Windows/Linux side of things.
EVERYONE's prices are creeping up.
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No, what's dumb is paying for a 5k monitor, and then throwing away all that sharpness and exquisite black-level on screen-fuzzing.
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NVidia doesn't allow for driving two external 5k monitors. Only AMD allows that.
Next question?
And BTW, this isn't a "How many FPS?" game machine.
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If you're spending $13k for a computer, I am SURE you will be:
a) Purchasing AppleCare Plus
b) Willing to replace the Logic Board for whatever cost it is.
c) Apple has generally made the SSDs semi-replaceable by their techs.
Come again? A Quadro Px000 card can drive 4 5K monitors at 60 Hz.
I won't called myself as pro or real pro, but yeah I'm live and making money from computer.
Content creation is focus and and off course my top priority. But at least understanding basic maintenance and fix is priceless and saving you many times from instead sending whole unit or waiting Apple technician.
When my cheese grater had unexpected death, there's was just simple SMC reset and swapped memory. I'm swapped bad DIMM with spare ECC RAM and everything is good again. There's less then 20 minutes, instead waiting technician which literally consume more time, and all work....stopped.
You can put NVIDIA Quadro K5000 to driving 2 5K display in 2010/2012 Mac Pro, use web driver and OK. For some bonus it can be flashed for adding shiny Apple boot screen. Probably can be used in TB3 powered Mac in eGPU enclosure, but never try.
So literally any Mac compatible GPU with 4 Displayports allow you to drive dual 5k monitor @60Hz.
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I'm ninja'd lol. I'm curious with pascal version of Quadro.
So in your mind "Pros" only want two 5k displays. Not all the software out there that either benefits or even requires NVIDIA? Got it. I now understand this market. Thank you.
In response to the bolded, just take this build, add more RAM and CPU cores, and that's what you get. Enterprise grade and creative pro parts are really expensive no matter who you buy from, and Apple's pricing is actually competitive. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4pXysJ
The Mac Pros sold for less than the sum of their parts, making them great for users who needed the power, but the 2013 one had the problem of non-upgradeability. Dunno about the iMac, but it looks at least close to the price of building one.
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Xeon always loses in single-core CPU tests even against mid-range consumer-grade CPUs. That's simply not what it's designed for, and most consumers would be better off not touching this. Also have to compare GPU performance. Creative pro GPUs excel at certain tasks but aren't worthwhile for others, and you need them for certain things like precise 3D modeling just due to the drivers. But you can't use AMD GPUs for anything that requires CUDA.
Of course, it's not going to stop kids with gaming PCs from thinking it's idiotic for anyone to buy a Mac Pro or iMac Pro, just cause it's not at all the right kind of hardware for gaming. But I wish Apple did offer a consumer-high-end Mac with i7, non-ECC RAM, and GTX graphics for general power use.
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Ahem, former ESPN IT guy. Care to guess how many thousands of iMacs are in the editing suites in Bristol right now?
Just plug in more monitors. I don't see the issue. The SSD thing is an issue.
I wish they would have removed the USB-A ports and instead used USB-C (so 4 Thunderbolt 3 and 4 USB-C). They were trying to kill it off their laptops so just let it go already! This back and forth means manufacturers will continue making USB-A an IO option. Its great for backwards compatibility, but they already told us its gone on the macbook now just put the final nail in the coffin already, yeah?
RAM, GPU, M.2/SSD are all skyrocketing in price due to mining and shortages in manufacturing. 64GB of DDR4-3000 cost $460 a little over a year ago. Now it's $700+. 1080Ti cost $580 at launch and is now $750, etc.
That is incredibly poor design for a pro machine. If something goes wrong with the logic board recovery is almost impossible without a removable SSD. Stay far away from this machine pros unless you can afford to loose a ton of work product.
Just an anecdote for sll those folks who are hollering about the price...
Was chatting with my dad about this today and mentioned the cost of the iMac Pro. He quickly reminded me that the Mac LC he bought for our family in 1990/91 cost about $3,100, which is roughly $5,800 in today’s dollars.
Was chatting with my dad about this today and mentioned the cost of the iMac Pro. He quickly reminded me that the Mac LC he bought for our family in 1990/91 cost about $3,100, which is roughly $5,800 in today’s dollars.
How long now until we're able to write that about iPhone pricing?
Back in the day, I traded my Prometheus 2400 baud modem for a $500 beater. We both walked away thinking we got a good deal.
Ahhh those were the days.
For content creation the monitors should be the same and calibrated to match.
It still doesn't get around having to pay for the Apple 27" 16:9 which may not be what the user wants, and why would they want to pay for it a second time when they upgrade?
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How many of those are upwards of $5k-10k?
I hate to tell you real pros do both! I run a small retouching/animation/3D company and all of the pro's I work with do their own upgrading and some build their own custom PC's. Not all pro's have an IT dept to fall back on. Its easy as pie to upgrade ram and an SSD when Apple lets you. Even the CPU upgrade wasn't that hard. But the GPU's are whats killing me now. Just like the Vega GPU will be a big problem for pro users in a couple of years with the iMac Pro.
The pro's aren't complaining about the price they are complaining about the non pro lack of any upgradability. Thats a joke! The sweet spot for most computers is the middle road and then as time and money become more abundant you can upgrade as you need or please. What were we supposed to do when the nMP languished for 1200 plus days without a spec bump. We upgraded our machines the best we could. People complained about the lack of upgradeability with nMP, but did apple learn its lesson from that failure, no they went even deeper into the rabbit hole with no upgradeable parts at all!
If you are a "real pro" like you say, then you will wait for the real pro modular Mac Pro. If that's a dud then its an HP Z workstation for a lot of pros who have been burn by Apple far to many times.
Newbie question: Does Apple include all the necessary drivers for Windows 10/Bootcamp out of the box on these new iMacs? What's the oldest Windows version they support, if any?
I take it people that don’t know “lose” from “loose” are the sorts of people who don’t use time machine or carbon copy cloned?
iMac Pro 10 core vs 18 core
I calculate the 18 core would be approx 20% faster than the 10. However that’s just multiplying numbers... Does anyone know how the larger L3 memory would factor into speed? Single treaded it looks like the 10 core is 5% faster than the 18 core... For arguments sake, assume cost is not a factor. But overall performance is. Uses are Final Cut X, Logic, Lightroom, some Photoshop (not much). Thoughts?
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